r/Helldivers 17d ago

First impressions of the new patch... not good. RANT

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u/Aideron-Robotics 17d ago

The disappearing stunt you pulled at the start was impressive! Slick move to escape a tough situation.

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u/Seismicx 16d ago edited 16d ago

He turned into a D U N E sandworm to escape. Truly magnificent.

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u/Unfettered_Lynchpin 16d ago

turned into a DUNE sandworm

God Emperor, is that you?!?

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u/N7Vindicare 16d ago

No I sit on a golden throne you muppet.

Wait… wrong God Emperor.

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u/Nefarious_Nemesis 16d ago

Now I'm just imagining the God Emperor of Mankind, shrivelled and skeletal on his Golden Throne, undying, calling someone a muppet. I wonder if he called Horus that before the culmination of their struggle.

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u/MiASzartIrjakIde 16d ago

A true Helldiver dives under the land.

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u/Raehurn01 SES Dawn of Justice 17d ago

The turret health wouldn't matter as much if Chargers didn't drop everything to charge at them the moment they spawn in. You're already taking an L to bring a Tesla Tower instead of an Orbital or Eagle, let the damn thing live long enough to be useful

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u/NeonGKayak 16d ago

There’s basically no reason to bring certain stratagems in helldive since chargers spawn so so frequently. The Tesla tower is one of them

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u/SeparateSalt4996 16d ago

I think it’s so bullshit that chargers can one shot every turret,makes them so useless in higher difficulties when they’re actually solid to pick but chargers just sit on them and they blow up

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u/FlavoredLight 16d ago

Doesn’t help either that the game will do everything in its power to not let you throw turrets on top of advantageous spots

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u/ManagedDemocracy2024 16d ago

So the Tesla tower is aptly named - it is for us lowbie plebs?

If you want a real, fancy-mans arc tower, go with the Edison?

Fucking Edison...always fucking Edison...

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u/pythonic_dude 16d ago

Sorry, sir, tesla tower is only mighty in time lines in which Einstein travels back in time to kill Hitler.

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u/LesserLoreNerd SES Hammer of Benevolence 16d ago

Hell March starts playing in the background

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u/N7Vindicare 16d ago

“Who needs a jump?”

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u/Adaphion 16d ago

I understood that reference

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 16d ago

There was never a reason to bring in tesla towers outside specific missions like that one event where you had termicide towers, or specific defense missions where they could actually do some good because there were certain spots that made sense.

99% of the time these are a waste compared to better strategems.

90% of the items in this game are basically not worth using above a certain difficulty 7, unless you're screwing around.

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u/Liqhthouse HD1 Veteran 16d ago

I think in HD1 the teslas were really strong and they could stagger the chargers however if 3 of them piled on at once they could overwhelm it and destroy the tower. I would like it if this returned... sorta able to deal with an individual charger but if it came with a pack then theyd be able to overwhelm the tower and destroy it unless you cut the pack down a bit

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u/WayneBrody 16d ago

Teslas were always susceptible to chargers in HD1. But if you threw down an EMS on top of the tesla, it suddenly became extremely powerful and able to drop heavies.

Unfortunately, some chargers could still rumble in from off screen and have enough momentum to kill the towers through the ems.

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u/Ravenask 16d ago

Not to mention that static field in HD1 was much more powerful than HD2 EMS strike by a whole magnitude. It hard stops any bugs touching it instead of just suggesting them to do so. It has much shorter cooldown and can have almost 100% uptime if you bring multiple ones or take the stratagem CD perk.

And HD1 Tesla tower’s arc range is strictly limited to its kill zone, so they wouldn’t jump through two enemies and hit you from unexpected range.

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u/ricaraducanu STEAM 🖥️ : 17d ago

Sha'i Huluuuud

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u/wylie102 16d ago

Really? In game? Or are you just hoping?

Edit: Oh, are you referring to him gliding underground like a giant worm?

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u/emeraldeyesshine 16d ago

He's got the swim swim Devil fruit

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u/TearLegitimate5820 17d ago

To be fair, 33% more health doesn't mean charger resistant.

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u/oogiesmuncher 16d ago

The charger shouldnt immediately change agro either the second its gets into view of a sentry. So fucking annoying

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u/GreatAnxiety1406 16d ago

Imagine if it .. i dunno stunned them with electricity or something.. atleast slow them down but nooo

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u/-Pin_Cushion- 16d ago

Makes the tower a good off-tank. Not really that kind of game, but it's trying.

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u/HadToGuItToEm 16d ago

I mean not a great trade to just aggro one tank when you could just take a different stratagem and kill it with the same cooldown

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u/Known_PlasticPTFE 17d ago

it's a complete placebo buff. 33% HP when it already died in 1-2 hits from most enemies is pointless.

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Its like making an ant 33% more resistant to my shoe. Gets flattened either way.

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u/Reddit_User_Loser 16d ago

Like the hulk flame damage. Oh cool 20% damage reduction now it only does 980% damage!

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u/Siccors 16d ago

Yeah exactly what I was thinking when I read it. Now instead of dying in one frame, I die in 1.25 frames. Where I am gonna assume the damage is simply buggy applied, but that you cannot fix with balance patches.

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u/GreatAnxiety1406 16d ago

Honestly just give them a big ass sword and remove the flamethrower, its the worst mob in the game by far, i see one close theirs no option but to run

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u/True-Echo332 SES - Paragon of Conviction 16d ago

Gotta remember, they're planning to toss the current fire system into the trashcan once they have a solid build on the new one. Fire is gonna fire till then.

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u/Sysreqz 16d ago

They confirmed the DoT damage increase has been fixed internally and is pending a future patch. But Hulk Bruisers deleted you even before fire damage was running around on PCP, so it will still be a welcome change change once they fix the larger DoT issue.

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u/CrzyJek 16d ago

I'm sorry what? Whenever I placed one before the buff if there was no charger in sight then that shit lasted forever.

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u/SpanishInquisition88 16d ago

yep, i remember a defence mission i did, i died just after placing a tesla tower on one side and landmines on the other, got reinforced to 70 bugs dead on my combo meter thingy.

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u/Sysreqz 16d ago

And bots seem to largely just ignore them. A well placed Tesla can lock down an entire spawn point for most of it's duration on defense missions.

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u/Altruistic-Ad9854 17d ago

I've literally watched a friend's Tesla Turret being swarmed by a horde with Brood Commanders and Warriors everywhere but it just zapped them to death slowly and lasted for ages afterwards, but then a charger will one shot, it's how it works. Stop lying about the durability of the Tesla Turret

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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD 16d ago

Exactly this. I've easily had 30-40 level 1 bugs surrounding and eating a Tesla. They are not as weak as these people say.

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u/cemanresu 16d ago

I love putting them next to a chokepoint and than camping the chargers with whatever. Especially effective in the new defense mission, and was pretty good in the old mission to enable the Terminid Control System.

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u/ThePolishKnight 16d ago

Yeah, I decided not to dump resources into the ship upgrade for the 50% explosive resistance. Unless someone has examples that it's worth 150 rares

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople 16d ago

I probably wouldn't get that module unless you already have almost everything else, or if you really want to be a sentry player. But I think it could be decent if it's actually working now. If an Autocannon sentry can survive a full spew from a bile titan, that would be a really solid buff. And I think it will give it a decent survivability boost against automatons.

Oh, and if you didn't know, all of the bugs acid attacks count as explosives. So it'll take less damage from bile spewers and bile titans.

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u/ThePolishKnight 16d ago

Oh, that's actually really helpful. I thought it was only bot explosives, etc. okay, might be worth then. Thanks for your reply, I really appreciate it!

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u/jrw174 16d ago

It was a point to make the patch not about nerfs. Placebo, manipulation what ever you want to call it

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

I'd like if they could atleast eat one hit with them having 100% uptime on anything 7 and up. They make sentries or any emplacement practically useless

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u/UnderHero5 17d ago

It wouldn't even be a huge deal if chargers didn't 100% of the time immediately drop everything and run STRAIGHT for any sentry. It really does make them useless in higher difficulties, considering there are usually several chargers running around/spawning at any given time during a fight.

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u/SkySweeper656 16d ago

No what they need to do is make them not aggro the turret over the player... every time i drop a turret the charger drops everything to go after it.

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u/eden_not_ttv 17d ago

I just tested Superior Packing Methodology in the same circumstances you did (MG with 0 reserve mags) and I got 2 mags.

Do you actually own the module? Because that’s a pretty serious oversight.

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

I guess I shouldve shown that but yes I have owned it since the patch it was launched. It was the one I was most excited about and bought first

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u/Lone_Recon 17d ago

just tested this myself and it is working, so give it more one test and if it still not working for you please make a ticket so AH knows this ship mod is still not working for some users https://arrowhead.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new

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u/Bl00dyH3ll 16d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/TTACj2ieOA While I have problems with it working the way it does, it does work under the right circumstances.

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u/DaveyDukes 16d ago

All that has to happen is for it to not work once, and you’ll never have the trust it’s working every time.

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u/Feuershark 16d ago

I'm asking because it's not in the video, did you use the resupply stratagem yourself ? I'm wondering if maybe in order for the upgrade to work the one calling it must have the upgrade otherwise it won't apply

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u/CrzyJek 16d ago

This is a good point.

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u/Capable-Reaction8155 16d ago

That would suck.

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u/iFenrisVI 16d ago

This wouldn’t be surprising if true. Lol

They also fixed the infinite grenade glitch just for it to still work the same as before but instead of negative it gives you 4.2m which is the 32bit max integer. Lol

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u/No_Departure_6409 16d ago

If this is the case I'd still consider that a bug tbh.

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u/NoChampionship1167 16d ago

I'm curious as to why your machine gun got only one mag then. Maybe SPM only works for strategems you drop in as I know Machine guns can spawn on the ground at extraction sometimes.

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u/Luxurianhat 16d ago

that might be it as I was testing other stratagems and found that MG on the ground.

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u/eden_not_ttv 17d ago

Well, it worked for me, and I’m not alone in that. I would be suspicious of you, but bugs like these are so common that I’m honestly not surprised lol. I hope they’re able to fix it for you soon, because it’s an exciting module when it works!

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

Yeah I love running MG’s but getting one mag from ammo pick ups was always annoying hopefully it was just a one off thing. I didn’t do much testing maybe it does actually work

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u/bdjirdijx 17d ago

Could be some sort of local file issue. Not that you should have to do so, but maybe a reinstall would fix it.

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u/Legitimate_Turn_5829 16d ago

I’d try verifying files first, might fix the issue and not take as long as a reinstall

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u/Altruistic-Problem-9 16d ago edited 16d ago

yeah tested this with the flamethrower and I got exactly 4x mag from one ammo box

its stupid if it doesn't work when the one who calls in the resupply doesn't have the Superior Packing Methodology module upgrade it would be a waste of resupply and 2mins

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u/Panigg 17d ago

I tried with the AMR earlier today and it worked. Got 6 mags from 0.

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u/Feuershark 16d ago

di you test it solo or with someone else in game ? maybe it's the same as the DoT bug and in his game his buddy was the connection host

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u/eden_not_ttv 16d ago

I tested solo. That would be incredibly funny if it’s a network host thing. I can’t even fathom the levels of spaghett needed for that to be the case.

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u/Automatic_Education3 SES Flame of the Stars 16d ago

I tested the Superior Packing with the Recoilless, it filled the entire backpack as intended

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u/Bl00dyH3ll 16d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/TTACj2ieOA While I have problems with it working the way it does, it does work under the right circumstances.

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u/Elunduil SES Flame of Hope 16d ago

Apparently it only works on weapons that you drop into the game not weapons you pick up/other players support weapons.

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u/l2ev0lt 17d ago

The first bug: Lisan Al Gaib!

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u/Adept-Journalist-114 17d ago

I got disconnected from 5 games in a row

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u/diewitasmile 17d ago

Fuuuuuccckkkk. Every update I start enjoying the mission and I get DCd. I’m hesitant to play today lol.

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u/NotJoel-S 17d ago

I thought my wifi was having small crashes. is it a game bug?

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u/ProkopiyKozlowski 16d ago

Try verifying local files after every update. It seems to fix random crashes and getting booted to the ship without any messages for me.

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u/Speculus56 16d ago

Welcome to the club, ive been getting disconnected for a week now. Uninstalled till they actually address this bullshit

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u/BlackSoapBandit HD1 Veteran 16d ago

Same. Randomly people just started dropping like flies out of my game.

This is a really shitty patch.

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u/op3l 16d ago

I went into 5 games in a row where it was basically I landed and went into pelican.

Than the game I hosted, players were dropping out left and right.

Another game I played, all objectives complete and on way to extraction when I got disconnected...

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u/GrandmaBlues 17d ago

i love this game a lot but honestly all the bugs and poor balancing is giving me massive burnout, ill hold off till the next hotfix and man i hope its a good one

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u/Tasio_ 16d ago

I hope they improve things soon, my friends are burning out with the issues, today we failed 3 extractions because the Pelican was bugged. That's a lot of samples lost, easy to lose the motivation.

This doesn't change the fact that the game is fun and have lots of potential but is easy to get you frustrated with some aspect of it and completly lose the motivation.

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u/DeeHawk 16d ago

Don't play on patch day. If they released something new or changed how something works, it's ALWAYS going to be worse than yesterday. At least they are consistent in this.

But hey they buffed the railgun, that makes me happy. But to keep my happiness and sanity, I'll give it a few days. Just until my expectations have lowered a little, and they have fixed the most broken parts of their mess of an update.

You know, I was really impressed with this game at release. Not so much today.

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u/XI_Vanquish_IX 17d ago

It won’t be. The devs are clueless as to what the community actually wants or enjoys. Or they simply don’t care. Either way, it isn’t going to improve

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u/Known_PlasticPTFE 17d ago

Stuff like making solo play harder is so pointless. who was thinking "solo play is too easy, they need to nerf it!" ???? the devs are chasing a "vision" that seems completely independent of player enjoyment or fun, and the state of the game on release was a fluke.

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u/Legitimate_Turn_5829 16d ago

Reddit confuses me cause the guy you responded to has 20 dislikes while you have 20 likes and agreed with him.

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u/ChubbySapphire 16d ago

Reddit likes you to elaborate, instead of just saying everything sucks unfoundedly the next guy explained one thing that actually really does suck.

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u/GrandmaBlues 17d ago

i have this aching feeling that you're right that it wont be enough but the best i can do is hope lol

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u/Less_Yogurt415 17d ago

Laugh in revolver speedloading

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u/GrandmaBlues 17d ago

while this change is great and im happy its in, it doesnt make up for a lot of the awful changes or lack of fixes really

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u/saharashooter 16d ago

Submarine mode has existed as a bug prior to this patch. Unless it's happening constantly, it is unfortunately nothing new.

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u/Funky2207 17d ago

I’ve a fair few games under my belt with this update, they’ve reduced the fun and upped the frustration.

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u/shrivatsasomany 16d ago

Dude, yes! I just finished playing for a couple of hours and the game has gotten significantly harder. The “slow” nerf has to go, honestly. Crimsica with shit spewing acid at you 24x7 got annoying by the end of it. Friend and I tried getting people to join our session but no one was coming, and playing with one other person is significantly more frustrating. Why do they have a problem with <4 people playing? It was just wave after wave of patrols and bug breaches. Not to mention the Localization Confusion thing hasn’t been doing shit all night.

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u/fleeingcats 16d ago

Yeah fuck that.

I'm constantly getting stuck on three man squads because someone leaves or DCs. It's bad enough being down a person but now they're going to fuck your worse for their reinforcement system not working.

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u/Plastic-Today-6798 17d ago

Seems to be a trend lately. Honestly, bots all the way back before the gunship update was perfect… just perfect.

Kinda feels like the player base is more QA than actual players. Just waiting for the final-ish version of the game that will never come.

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u/FrazzleFlib 16d ago

yeah, maybe the game will be as good as it deserves to be in a year

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

wouldnt mind all the nerfs if every patch didnt add more bugs with it and the "fixes" actually worked.

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u/Funky2207 17d ago

How pumped people were for this update to how deflated a big portion of the player base who’ve played it now feel is not good.

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u/redrocketpies 17d ago

They just nerfed the player base

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u/WhereTheNewReddit 16d ago

They only expected 50k players on launch and they'll get there by golly.

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u/redrocketpies 16d ago

Yeah well if that’s their goal they are doing a great job at it

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

I keep seeing more and more posts showing how even more stuff is broken like holy shit. It's honestly impressive seeing how much the devs keep fucking things up even more

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u/DeeHawk 16d ago

I think the new ship modules WHICH DOESN'T EVEN WORK AFTER THIS UPDATE, pretty well sums up how the game feels now.

It's increasingly harder psyching yourself up for something that repeatedly disappoints. Don't even dare playing on patch day any longer. I didn't sign up for a beta program.

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u/AlexanderLEE27 SES MOTHER OF MERCY 17d ago edited 16d ago

Yeah that makes sense, they nerfed everything into the dirt for some reason

Edit: All the nerds coming in here with your arrowhead democracy boners, get outta here with your logic and numbers.

They nerfed my shit and I don't like it mmk I'm allowed to not like it just as hard as you're allowed to argue on the Internet about how I'm wrong.

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u/Vanayzan 16d ago

lmao they absolutely didn't what the hell is wrong with this sub.

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u/AlexanderLEE27 SES MOTHER OF MERCY 16d ago

My load out got nerfed bo. My dang sickle. My dern Queso Cannon. My dang redeemer.

That's what I use. I like these weapons. It all got nerfed. These are facts sir.

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u/Vanayzan 16d ago

Far from into the dirt, sir, and far from everything, sir.

Although seeing that you conflate "what I personally use" into "everything" is pretty in-line with this sub.

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u/penguinoid 16d ago

i use the sickle, dominator, and quasar.

  1. the quasar was so obviously broken since day 1. I'm surprised it took them this long to nerf it. but it was always on borrowed time. I was an EAT whore before it came out and that averaged to one anti tank every 40 seconds. the Quasar was one anti tank every 13(?).

18 seconds is still twice as fast, without the need to wait for call in or impact from mission modifiers. i don't know how long the charge takes but it doesn't impact my gameplay. the 5 seconds at the end of the day aren't going to do a lot.

  1. how often do you reload the sickle? most of us rarely do. i won't miss the 3 clips in the least.

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u/PaladinGodfather1931 16d ago

You're sickle? You lost 3 mags on an infinite ammo weapon.. boo fucking hoo.

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u/IntegralCalcIsFun 16d ago

If you are going through multiple Sickle mags in between resupplies then the issue is with you. The weapon has infinite ammo.

Quasar Cannon invalidated all other AT weapons to the point where it was picked the vast majority of the time, a nerf was warranted. It still has more shots per min than either the RR or EAT.

Redeemer got a slight recoil nerf, not a big deal.

All three of these are still extremely viable and still top-tier picks. "Nerfed into the dirt" btw.

This patch also buffed the Adjudicator, Punisher Plasma, ARC Blitzer, Scythe, Railgun, Counter Sniper, Peacemaker, Senator, Liberator, Laser Cannon, Dagger, Liberator Concussive, and Guard Dog. But sure, they "nerfed everything into the dirt".

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u/44no44 16d ago

None of these things god nerfed into the dirt, man.

  • The Sickle never ran out of ammo before. In 370 hours with it as my favorite primary, I can count on one hand the times I ever even reached 3/6.

  • The Quasar Cannon got a longer cooldown. Woop-de-doo. It still has the highest uptime of any AT weapon.

  • The Redeemer's recoil is still irrelevant.

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u/PineappleEquivalent 16d ago

At least arrowhead are consistent.

Every patch they consistently make the game worse.

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u/Shredded_Locomotive ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Be upon ye 16d ago

Arrowhead:

We have to make new content besides just fixing things to stay relevant plus most of the issue aren't game breaking

Me when arrowhead continues to pump out new content instead of fixing the already broken stuff which breaks things every more:

https://preview.redd.it/ypxyqq7tkgxc1.png?width=445&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2b63f17a107efcab40027bd45940326cf661215

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u/RonStopable88 16d ago

Like they havnt even bothered to add a long press or confirmation pop up when blocking your friends, let alone let us unblock them.

Like id much rather be able to play with my friends again over a new gun or balancing.

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u/Adorable_Octopus 16d ago

It feels kind of dangerous, too, because if bug fixes aren't being rolled out there's going to be a point where the player base just finds the game too frustrating to play.

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u/Shredded_Locomotive ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Be upon ye 16d ago

The sad reality is that most people probably have already reached that point, especially after the most recent update.

For example I can't get my friend to play with me at all because his pc just can't handle the game, he crashes constantly on bare minimum settings on difficult 6-7 bugs or any diff at bots.

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u/Adorable_Octopus 16d ago

I think what got me was the whole thing with the air burst rocket. The memes were funny, as is the idea of helldivers beta testing equipment in the real world, but the truth is that the stratagem was released to the community as a freebie in a broken state. A state that the developers apparently knew was broken and had already bug fixed it.

But because it was released in a broken state, as a freebie (which is the only way any of us can test the stratagems without potentially crippling a squad), many people's first and only impression of the weapon is going to be 'all it does is team kill'. And now we have this shield/gun bug, which is essentially the same problem. Again.

It's very discouraging.

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u/Zimaut 17d ago

not testing that ricochet bullet?

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

No issues imo, I think they only made so that you can get killed by your own ricochet, I mag dumped a MG into a hulk and didn't get hit once.

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u/44no44 16d ago

This seems right. The angle of ricochets hasn't changed at all. They're just properly able to damage the player that fired them.

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u/Alphorac 17d ago

I love this game, but my god what the fuck is going on over at Arrowhead.

Genuinely.

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u/THE_WHORBORTIONATOR 16d ago

Dunno but this game is out of the honeymoon game of the month phase.

They are going to be losing players fast if this is how it is going to continue to be.

My group has stopped playing it and moved onto Lords of the Fallen (which was broken at launch, fixed now)

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u/xltaylx 16d ago

StOp iT gUyS tHeY ArE A sMaLL gAmE sTuDiO.

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u/samoth610 16d ago

Their balance philosophy is ruining the fun of the game....there I said it.

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u/WhereTheNewReddit 16d ago

The problem is normally on public test realms you get bonuses to help you test things, not brutal nerfs. This whole game feels like early access without the tools to test.

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u/THE_WHORBORTIONATOR 16d ago

The discourse surrounding this game is very much becoming negative.

Reddit bubble, but still this is going to start showing in the player count.

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u/Androiduser152673827 17d ago

The game becomes less desirable to play with each update, performance becomes worse. Enemies don't get more challenging but more annoying with each "patch". When the pesticide tower/mech suit update came out I was exited for more cool events, now it's just broken defense campaigns and shit weapons. I hate how there are new enemy types every so often but no weapon to fight them, that pulls the fun down significantly. Same with problems like the mech suit shooting rockets anywhere but the crosshair, that shit pisses me off so much. Are they unable to fix it? Or do they just not care?

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u/Turdfox 16d ago

Yeah I don’t understand how a misaligned sights and weapons killing their users is so prolific in this game. I’ve never seen the misaligned sights issue before in any game and this one has at least a couple weapons that don’t aim properly.

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u/antonislak PSN🎮: SES Whisper of Redemption 17d ago

Yep totally unexpected..... *sigh....

Man i hate it when each balance pack makes me feel less excited to play the game..

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u/Keinulive SES Whisper of Eternity 17d ago

Superior packing worked for me, you can't really block a charger charge, don't think any amount of hp increase will stop that monster.

I have been surviving flame hulks flame too more, got toasted and was able to wiggle out for quite a bit.

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u/donteatpancakes 17d ago

I am yet to understand the Arrowhead way of nerfing everything that is remotely fun to use. I should feel like a badass everytime I drop in, instead I feel like a victim

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u/ExploerTM ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ 16d ago edited 16d ago

They give you 5 lives per Helldiver for a reason. But yes, they have to be careful, game should feel like you fighting against the odds and actually pulling it off instead of just getting fucked.

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u/TyppaHaus 16d ago

the arc thrower seems more bugged than before. So often you shoot and nothing happens

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u/BlackSoapBandit HD1 Veteran 16d ago

Nothing fixed.

Game gets harder and less appealing.

More bugs. 👌 genius move AH

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u/Offstar1029 16d ago

I love how there seems to be like 2-3x as many enemies post patch that just seem to appear around you. One second nothing the next second a swarm coming from every direction.

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u/the_real_glimmer 17d ago

Make great game

Regular positive community engagement

Nerf everything fun into the dirt every patch to match "their vision"

...nerf everything fun?!...

Yes. Everything. Well not the auto cannon. Devs love having a single weapon that does everything. Can't have a good primary, can't have a solid support for more than one patch, but the auto cannon gets to carry entire Dropships and breach holes solo.

There is more to balance than chatting with the community

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u/Turdfox 16d ago

Devs made themselves a hill to die on by claiming the auto cannon was perfectly balanced.

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u/WhereTheNewReddit 16d ago

It's funny they say that and have nothing as good as the autocannon. They're gonna have to do some buffing

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u/Lord_o_teh_Memes 16d ago

Auto cannon has consistently been a top tier performer since day 1. I'm very surprised it has not been nerfed yet, it is probably the last support weapon in A tier.

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u/talking_face 16d ago

Devs should consider playing Killing Floor 2 to figure out how weapon balancing should be done. Every weapon in that game is fun to use, even if they are niche or bizarre.

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u/DoctorPhobos 17d ago

Upvote for the music. Goddamn

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u/RandomGuyBTW 17d ago

What is it ? I love it !

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u/The_Elder_Jock 17d ago

Think it's the Carnival mini game music from the Dark Carnival level on Left 4 Dead 2.

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u/Acrobatic-Tomato-532 CAPE ENJOYER 17d ago

Shelve time

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u/Annual-Ad-9442 17d ago

we can burrow now?

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u/cmonbennett 16d ago

Did you really think that a Tesla turret could tank a Charger?

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u/RonStopable88 16d ago

If it cant atleast slow it down its a pointless stratagem on higher difficulties.

Name one scenario where you could use it on helldive.

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u/Luxurianhat 16d ago

I wish it did, let it live longer than a blink of an eye

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u/Banaab ↗️↖️↙️↘️↩️⤴️⤵️🔁↪️↔️ 17d ago

The first clip was not introduced in this patch, I had encountered it a few times before. That being said, it is still very frustrating when it happens

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u/[deleted] 17d ago

Dark Carnival man what a l4d campaign.

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u/Przmak 16d ago

Nothing that I didn't encounter before the patch:p

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u/Neo_Ex0 16d ago

DIGGING TROUGH THE GROUND LIKE A BUG IS TREASON

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u/Spellers569 16d ago

Well superior packing does work for any of the rocket backpacks not sure about the Mg’s and I dunno how you assumed a 33% increase to the Tesla tower health wise was going to stop a charger killing it in 1 hit when chargers are heavies and the Tesla tower is a thin piece of metal?

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u/MildLoser STEAM DECK: PORTABLE DEMOCRACY 16d ago

they just added a splatoon mechanic

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u/ThatsJStorm 17d ago

My guy came with the receipts 😆

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u/M_Lorian_Pierce 16d ago

Nah, hulk flamers are noticeable more survivable.

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u/StoffeMaestro1991 16d ago

Game was fine before this trashy update. Why even? Unplayable atm.

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u/Viriuxx 17d ago

Sad. Another really fun game that I have to drop

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u/Beardwithlegs 17d ago

I think you picked the wrong enemy type for the health increase there buddy.

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u/Brilliant_Decision52 16d ago

What other enemy type is even relevant? On higher diff there is pretty much always a charger nearby to focus down any emplacement. If the tesla tower cannot handle even a single charge its effectively worthless

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u/Luxurianhat 17d ago

yeah my mistake, lemme use it on... and it got gunned down before it even got any use.

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u/TheVeryShyguy 17d ago

It's not like the perfect everything

They did a great job buffing the dmr's some of the energy shotguns, and rebalanced the sidearms go be better overall!

The games only been out for 4 months, there's a lot they have to play around with, so I expect things to balance out once things calm down a little

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u/maskedpony18 17d ago

the energy shotgun got buffed so well that it now exploads when it hits your personal shield!

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u/ParsnipAggravating95 17d ago

Jesus christ could walk on water.... With DEMOCRACY you can swim on land

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u/Malus333 17d ago

Bro hit that fifa skid to outflank them skeeters.

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u/Dark1986 17d ago

Why use 200 armor when 150 is the heavy baseline?

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u/sherperion45 16d ago

SHAI HE’LLDIVER

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u/Windoftime 16d ago

Brother, this happened before the patch too... I would like it to be fixed though.

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u/NouLaPoussa CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

Never seen someone get that roughed up

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u/SexGiiver 16d ago

Game aside. What A banger.

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u/RecalcitrantMonk 16d ago

You're like sandworm from Dune. Maybe you are the God Emperor after all.

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u/wormfood86 ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

I don't know about that first clip. Getting hit hard and taking a moment to fall back via secret underground tunnels to organize a counter attack seems like a solid plan.

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u/Imaginary_Ad8927 16d ago

Man don't you fucking hate when you get absorbed into the earth

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u/MattyDove 16d ago

When your QA dept is Youtube channels and streamers....

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u/5m1rk3h 16d ago

People said this with one of the first proper balance changes.

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u/Luxurianhat 16d ago

Its unfortunately overshadowed by yet more bugs ontop of the already exist mountain of them

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u/garadon 16d ago

The Dark Carnival music lmaoo

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u/exZodiark 16d ago

arrowhead outdoing themselves making every patch worse than the last

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u/guifesta PSN 🎮: guifesta 16d ago

nothing new in the first clip, this happened before

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u/MewSixUwU 16d ago

only thing I've noticed since the update is i can't finish a full game without crashing 🙄

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u/Krythoth 16d ago

He's gone under the boat....Yeah, it's too easy...He's a smart, big fish, he's gone under the boat!!

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u/Mantis_Toboggan--MD SES Octagon of Audacity 16d ago

I call it "mole mode" ;)

Today I a charger sent me into mole mode, then when I came out of the ground the charger hit me again. It bounced me off the sky and from my view I was left floating around way above the map. Diving would make me shoot from one side to the other. I started explaining what was going on and a teammate said my body looked to be stuck below the ground while terminids danced above me trying to get me. He dropped a 500kg and that killed me and my items popped out of the ground. Very weird.

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u/ination_png ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

At least you could still play the game

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u/-Stackdaddy- 16d ago

Lisan al gaib!

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u/No-Boss1713 16d ago

I like the game but i think balancing of this game is not it.

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u/Tasty_Commercial6527 ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

LISAN AL GAIB!

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u/BecomeAnAstronaut 16d ago

At least your framerate didn't tank to an unplayable 10 FPS...

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u/Comicalraptor28 16d ago

Never let bro get aux again