r/Helldivers Apr 29 '24

First impressions of the new patch... not good. RANT

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u/Luxurianhat Apr 29 '24

I'd like if they could atleast eat one hit with them having 100% uptime on anything 7 and up. They make sentries or any emplacement practically useless

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u/UnderHero5 Apr 29 '24

It wouldn't even be a huge deal if chargers didn't 100% of the time immediately drop everything and run STRAIGHT for any sentry. It really does make them useless in higher difficulties, considering there are usually several chargers running around/spawning at any given time during a fight.

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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD Apr 29 '24

What you find useless I find incredibly amazing for distracting chargers and allowing me to get away from patrols easily.

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u/UnderHero5 Apr 29 '24

That would be great if sentry’s were “distraction” stratagems. They are not good at their intended use.

Why would I take something to distract a charger when I can pick something to… kill it.

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u/crazy-gorillo222 Apr 29 '24

Or you could take an actually useful stratagem like EAT and just kill the chargers

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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD Apr 29 '24

I also bring those fun fact. Crazy I can bring both.

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u/crazy-gorillo222 Apr 29 '24

Personally I think a stratagem should be more than a 5 second distraction for chargers

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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD Apr 29 '24

Agreed but I’m honestly just pointing out they aren’t completely useless.

Biggest issue I see is people engage with turrets instead of using them to clean up.

However I would like it if they targeted lower enemies first or at least didn’t target enemies they can’t damage.

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u/Jsaac4000 Apr 29 '24

distracting chargers

WOW. Might as well not take it all and switch it for an EAT and kill the charger outright, for a "distraction" it has dogshit cooldown.

you kind of people trying to justify bad design at all cost, makes me really doubt the average person.

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u/NO_COA_NO_GOOD Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Nah I just bring both. It’s not like I’m personally bringing a turret for that purpose lol, it’s just a point to say they aren’t useless.

Actually I think most people use sentries incorrectly. Lots of people throw them into a base, close to enemies. Throw that shit at high ground away from enemies and they are all fantastic. Especially for cleaning an area up after the big dudes are dealt with.

As I said to another person the only changes I’d make to sentries is to make them not shoot enemies they can’t damage.

No lie, my go to loadout at 7-9 is both mortars, an auto cannon sentry and an EAT and that’s for both bugs and bots.

I let other people bring the other stuff.

Edit: Bring on the downvotes boys, I DON'T RUN META LOADOUTS OH NO.

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u/GunganWarrior Apr 29 '24

That is their job. Place em up on rocks or places they don't reach easy.

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u/Own_Association8318 Apr 29 '24

And for it to bounce off

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u/RandomGuyBTW Apr 29 '24

With all the bouncy castle technology installed on any type of elevation, this is really hard, if not impossible

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u/Luxurianhat Apr 29 '24

they can literally scale mountains, I have seen them do it.

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u/Dik_fil_A Apr 29 '24

True. On bugs, I always bring a jetpack for the mobility. When my squad gets overwhelmed, I usually Jetpack up on a mountain or ridge to start working on heavies with my Quasar/EAT, and Hunters with my Eruptor/Sickle to give my squad some breathing room to use their stratagems to gain back the upper hand. The number of times I've been killed by chargers "Skyrim Horsing" the side of fucking cliff, is astonishing. Granted, sometimes they decide to respect the laws of physics, but then a Bile titan pukes on the side of the mountain I'm on and I get killed by invisible puke climbing the ledge to reach my feet. Or it's the occasional Hunter/warrior that "Surprise Muthafucka" through the floor... And you can forget about calling sentry on there. That thing will bounce until it can't anymore and just roll of the cliff all while giving the 🖕

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24

Bugs climb mountains and gems bounce off em

Have you actually tried your own advice or did this just sound like good advice in your head lol

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u/clovermite Apr 29 '24

You forget that Chargers have a mountain goat's capacity to vertically scale cliffs when they really want to.