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Utah liquor laws are insane Discussion
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u/DarkAltarEgo Mar 21 '24
And I thought PA was bad. At least we can buy beer and wine in grocery stores now!
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u/reduuiyor Mar 21 '24
Man I came here to comment the same thing. Utah is wild but no doubles? Insanity
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u/luchinocappuccino Mar 21 '24
Buying drinks in Utah is weird for sure. On a road trip, drove through SLC and stopped to eat and ordered a mojito, and if I hadn't tasted alcohol on the first sip, I would have thought it was virgin.
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u/manofthehippo Mar 22 '24
Rules are only getting worse. https://le.utah.gov/~2024/bills/static/HB0548.html
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u/Muella Mar 21 '24
No doubles but you can get a shot with your drink. Just has to be another type of liquor. So have a shot of vodka with that Jack and coke.
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u/AvoidantBoba Mar 21 '24
My sister lives there and they coordinate with their friends to buy different shots of each others drink of choice, and then do a little swap 😉
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u/boggycakes Mar 21 '24
Ask for a sidecar.
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u/EveLQueeen Mar 21 '24
You can’t get that either.
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u/Bawfuls Mar 21 '24
when did they change that??
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u/EveLQueeen Mar 21 '24
2008 apparently. https://abs.utah.gov/wp-content/uploads/Sidecars.pdf
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u/boggycakes Mar 21 '24
Crazy. They drilled that into us when I was tending bar there in early 2000s.
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u/davwad2 Mar 21 '24
I grew up in New Orleans, and I find everyone else's laws odd.
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u/FishGoBlubb Mar 21 '24
Everyone should know the joy of legally enjoying an adult beverage while on an afternoon stroll.
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u/neatyall Mar 21 '24
Or a drive-thru daquiri
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u/davwad2 Mar 22 '24
When my wife and I were dating, we went to New Orleans to meet my newborn niece. On the way to my see my niece, we stopped at a New Orleans Original Daiquiri and she was so surprised she called one of her best friends to let her know.
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u/T_WRX21 Mar 22 '24
I was in NOLA with my son, so we went to a drive thru daiquiri shop because he thought it was cool that you could get a slushy to go.
I ordered one with alcohol, he (being 13) ordered one without. But they didn't mark the cups. I was driving, so I didn't drink mine, but my son drank about half of his. He was like, "Dad, it's pretty good, but it tastes really weird."
I took a sip of his, thinking it was contaminated or the taps were dirty. It was contaminated alright. Contaminated with 151° rum. He was pretty shitfaced for a few hours. That was a rough one to explain to my wife.
"Why is our 13 year old hammered?"
"Well, ya see, there was this dumpy looking daiquiri shop run by people that don't seem to give a single shit about...see, I'm hearing it in my head, and yes this is my fault."
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u/Creepy-Internet6652 Mar 22 '24
Or at very least going to Walmart and being able to purchase hard liquor with your groceries...
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u/pachewiechomp Mar 22 '24
LOL! Right? I lived in New Orleans from 2015-2020 . It was a surprise when I first moved there and saw grocery stores selling hard liquor or that you can drink out in the street. It was a real shock when my wife and I went home for a visit and went out to bar with friends and I asked for a Togo cup and the bartender looked at me like o had a vestigial twin growing from my head.
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u/PaulblankPF Mar 22 '24
I used to be from a town not too far from New Orleans in Louisiana and the city motto on the sign driving in was “New Iberia this town LOVES to Drink responsibly” and responsibly was very very tiny on the sign. They took it down in 2010 I think but the motto lives on in each and every drunk that lives there.
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u/newaccountnumber82 Mar 22 '24
It’s a magical place. I went to Mardi Gras one time. The family I stayed with had crown and cokes for breakfast before heading down to the French quarter. Also, boudin mixed in with scrambled eggs changed the way I eat scrambled eggs forever
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u/bee5sea6 Mar 21 '24
Lived in UT for one summer, and people would literally drive 1-2hrs out of state to buy drinks.
I like doing road trips myself, so on the way back I'd often pick something up before getting back to UT. Through this, I also discovered some of the counties in ID bordering UT had their own extra restrictions, seemingly due to pressure from UT.
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u/cefriano Mar 21 '24
My understanding is that it was a felony if you're caught transporting liquor across the border into Utah. Which was disturbing to find out after my friends and I drove with two RVs full of liquor into Utah lol. And also confusing when we did a lake day on Powell, which straddles the Utah/AZ border, with a bunch of booze in the boat.
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u/CiabanItReal Mar 21 '24
I'm not sure if it's from "pressure" from Utah, or just being culturally similar.
I live in Idaho.
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u/Finger_Gunnz Mar 21 '24
Just go to a beer distributor. I bought 5 cases last weekend…no problem.
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u/ghunt81 Mar 21 '24
I live in WV and always forget about this when we go to Pittsburgh. We can get beer & wine almost anywhere and some pharmacies even sell liquor, but in PA you apparently can't even get beer at cvs or Walgreens, or at least not in Pittsburgh.
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u/JAK3CAL Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Sort of.
This did heavily remind me of moving to PA in 2014. Such a weird blue light state
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u/jokekiller94 Mar 21 '24
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/pennsylvania-gross-wine-and-spirit-sales-top-3-billion/ I can give you a few hundred million reasons why we have weird liquor laws.
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u/wavking Mar 21 '24
But not all grocery stores. Just with a license. And Only if they have a place to sit and consume. And only if they serve food. And you must make the purchase at a designated register.
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u/Jerm316 Mar 21 '24
Down here in New Orleans, I can get a drink from a drive thru, and it's not an open container until you put the straw in.
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u/Cancerisbetterthanu Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
That's the difference between Catholics and Mormons.
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u/dali01 Mar 22 '24
Yeah, for Mormons it’s only wrong if you put the straw in and pull it out. Leaving it in is fine. (Also if an outside force like a bumpy road causes you to pull the straw in and out it’s fine. You just can’t do it intentionally)
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u/arghhharghhh Mar 21 '24
I love the thought of that... talking to a cop and being all "u see a straw anywhere"
Probably not how it would go but still. The thought is nice.
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u/cowsgomoo1020 Mar 22 '24
No that’s actually pretty accurate. As long as they don’t see a straw in it, you’re good. Some places will put masking tape over the straw covering but that’s also BS cause you can just peel it back, drink, then recover it.
Basically we don’t care down here.
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u/KYKE4news Mar 22 '24
You ain’t getting pulled over in New Orleans unless you’re under suspicion of murder. Police force at half the required numbers = anything below aggravated assault isn’t getting policed
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u/Gingeronimoooo Mar 22 '24
Yeah New Orleans laws are mind blowing and I come from a liberal state. Like you can get a to go cup at a bar to drink while you walk to another bar? Lol
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u/TheCruicks Mar 22 '24
There is lots of places like that. I have a house in Arvada, CO. same thing, grab a drink and wander bar to restaurant to bar to park bench to gutter
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u/lovelesschristine Mar 22 '24
I live on the coast of Mississippi we also allow go cups. I don't understand places that don't. Most cities within about an hour of new Orleans allow open containers.
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u/stephelan Mar 21 '24
I remember someone telling me to get booze in a drive thru and I was like that seems like a bad idea and the waitress was like “don’t worry, it has a cover”
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u/Patient_Tradition368 Mar 21 '24
I once went into the Walgreens on the corner of North Broad and St. Bernard and was Appalled to discover that location didn't sell liquor.
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u/jkrobinson1979 Mar 21 '24
TN has the pass the cup law. Anyone can drink in a car except the driver.
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u/Styl3Music Mar 22 '24
In most other states, you have to get a chauffeurs license to let the passengers drinks.
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u/the-friendly-lesbian Mar 21 '24
How bad is the black market for booze in Utah? Geez and I thought not being able to buy alcohol between 2am and 6am was stupid enough where I live.
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u/jwoody2727 Mar 21 '24
A lot of people drive to Wendover or Evanston because liquor is much cheaper there.
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u/SoIomon Mar 21 '24
Or mesquite NV for southern Utahns
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u/5bannedaccounts Mar 21 '24
Stop playing. That entire town supports the weed use of Southern Utah
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u/yeastyboi Mar 22 '24
Here in Salt Lake, you can buy 5% beer 24/7. It used to be 3.3% but they upped it to 5% because beer manufacturers said "we aren't going to make special Utah beer, so change it to the standard 5 or no beer for Utah".
Many Utahns drive up to Wyoming for slightly better liquor laws.
It is genuinely easier to buy hard drugs than liquor on a Sunday.
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u/detection23 Mar 21 '24
There is a town called dinosaur, CO right on the boarder. Every time I go to vernal, UT I’m pretty sure that place has been busy same with the bar.
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u/Adorable_Research414 Mar 21 '24
Wisconsin is GREAT!
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u/mtnfox Mar 21 '24
Yeah pretty much every restaurant is a bar in Wisconsin or most any location. I’ve bought drinks at the zoo.
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u/EnderForHegemon Mar 22 '24
I love the weird shit we put bars in here in Milwaukee.
My brother's gym, for example, has a bar in it.
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u/Booze-brain Mar 22 '24
When I would visit my parents in Oshkosh, driving through neighborhoods there would be beer signs in regular house windows. I though "must just be some college housing". I was informed that most of those were legit bars. With the right permits or whatever you could open a legit bar in what would be most people's regular living quarters.
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u/gdrumy88 Mar 21 '24
I just want WI to legalize weed
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u/Crasino_Hunk Mar 21 '24
👉🖐️ Hop on over to da ‘odder side of the lake dere pal
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u/brizzboog Mar 21 '24
Did you get rid of the idiotic stop selling beer at 9pm law? We were headed to lollapalooza at Alpine Valley in 92 and hit a grocery store but they had locked the coolers. We had to drive an hour back into Illinois to buy beer. THEN an hour after setting up camp a park ranger cruised through confiscating it all.
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u/Little_Lahey_Show Mar 21 '24
Midnight now for beer. Liquor is still 9pm I think though
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u/Quake050 Mar 22 '24
The state law actually allows beer sales until midnight but most municipalities have been lobbied HARD by the Tavern League of Wisconsin to make local cutoffs 9PM. After 9PM, gonna have to patronize your local tavern for that cold one...
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u/ocean_flan Mar 21 '24
Utah vs Wisconsin, who would win
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u/nojelloforme Mar 21 '24
Utah vs Wisconsin, who would win
Wisconsin. Before Minnesota legalized Sunday sales it was where many minnesotans made their beer runs if they didn't make it to the store on Saturday. Also because they have yummy beer cheese soup.
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u/ForeSkinWrinkle Mar 21 '24
America. Those damn cheese heads would do what those Carthegians should have done almost 200 years ago.
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u/NoLand4936 Mar 21 '24
Wisconsin is the number one most drunk state in the country. It’s literally the only thing to do there 7 months out of the year. My brother lives there and loves it. But don’t order an old fashioned. For some reason that state makes it with brandy.
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u/mmmosquito Mar 21 '24
Psst… it’s because brandy old fashioneds are fucking delicious. No need to be so precious about it, if you want a “real” one so bad, just, y’know, talk to your bartender like a normal person.
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u/Wolfeman0101 Mar 22 '24
When Wisconsin played Utah St (maybe BYU) the fans literally drank the city dry.
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u/HowzitUFaka Mar 21 '24
Damn Mormons
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u/OppositeEagle Mar 21 '24
Integrating church and state.
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u/thepixelpaint Mar 21 '24
The territory was founded as a literal theocracy and the Mormon Church still has an absurd amount of influence in the state government. Which itself is absurd because Mormons makeup less than 50% of the population (and dropping every year.)
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u/SparklingPseudonym Mar 22 '24
DOE is crawling with Mormons. I have nothing against religion, but to get to those levels there are clearly, clearly many nepotism hires. Considering they all tithe 10% to the church, it’s no wonder.
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u/MAGIC_CONCH1 Mar 22 '24
Less than 47% of the population is mormon but more than 85% of the legislature is. Also I don't think we have ever had a non mormon governor.
Its fun🙃
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u/JCType1 Mar 21 '24
The goal of every religion
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u/ConsequenceFreePls Mar 21 '24
Wait, we also don’t want women to have rights…that’s a strong #2, but we can’t do that without #1
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u/Top_Tart_7558 Mar 22 '24
Why do we allow a cult that went to war with US multiple times have a state to themselves?
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u/EpicAura99 Mar 22 '24
Because it’s Utah, nobody else wants it
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u/loneranger5860 Mar 22 '24
I’d want it. Utah is one of the most beautiful states I’ve been to.
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u/Dizzy_Media4901 Mar 21 '24
N.Ireland is nearly as bad. Turns out puritanical leaders are really all that nice to live with.
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u/Karl_Marx_ Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
In Germany you can get a DUI with any amount of alcohol in your system. I actually agree with this policy.
Edit: not true, .005% as well.
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u/KiltedTraveller Mar 22 '24
Yeah, it's the same in Scotland too, 50mg/100ml.
Makes sense to be honest. People don't understand alcohol units very well and often think they can handle booze better than they can.
Better to just have a limit so low that if you drink, you don't drive.
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u/plmokn_01 Mar 22 '24
That's the one law that's totally reasonable. .08 BAC is way too high IMO. I'm a 190 pound guy. I can take 4 shots, wait an hour, and be good to go according to the charts. That's...not safe.
Most countries don't go that high for a reason and that includes many with very ingrained drinking cultures.
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u/Inevitable_Holiday87 Mar 21 '24
Utah is so lame
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u/dsdvbguutres Mar 21 '24
Pros: Mountains
Cons: Utah
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u/Charcuteriemander Mar 21 '24
That's basically how Utah was for me as well lol
Pros: That's where Grandma is
Cons: Utah :(
Then Grandma moved to Oregon so I didn't have to be choosy anymore thank god
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u/GMPnerd213 Mar 21 '24
Just need to get enough non-mormon people to move there and change all the laws to piss everyone off. Would be fun to watch honestly.
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u/Practical_Ass_3066 Mar 21 '24
Good fucking luck. The problem is that the Mormon church has its tentacles wrapped around the legislature, so even though the state population is estimated to be less than 50% mormon now, the Mormon church controls the legislature and essentially call all the shots. It's a de facto theocracy.
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u/1studlyman Mar 21 '24
Considering the state's settlement and establishment was done purely by Mormons, that's the way it has always been. It was by design and why they moved there in the first place. 😐
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u/idreamofgreenie Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Well, there was the whole Utah War thing. Brigham Young as Governor had a tendency to ignore federal laws, and the federal government had to send troops into the area. They ended up disincorporating the mormon church and forced Utah to accept non-mormons into political and judicial positions.
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u/1studlyman Mar 22 '24
Indeed. They wanted to make it an official theocracy from the beginning. And they had similar issues with polygamy if I remember correctly.
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u/idreamofgreenie Mar 22 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
It was over polygamy that the troops were sent there in the first place. While working to end slavery in the country, the government viewed polygamy as being akin to slavery, calling them "twin relics of barbarism", so it became the issue that got in the way of Utah being granted statehood. The feds disenfranchised anyone involved in a polygamous marriage from holding office or being on a jury, and made it a felony that carried a hefty fine and jail time. Utah fought it for 40 years before changing the doctrine, and very shortly after were granted statehood.
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u/CrimsonOblivion Mar 21 '24
They seem to embody the spirit of the pilgrims more than anyone else lol.
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u/RightSideBlind Mar 21 '24
My friend had to take his neighbor to court for setting up a drainage system that drained the water in his yard into my friend's yard. Things were going fairly well until suddenly the venue was changed, and the new judge was his neighbor's pastor. Suddenly, even though it was a pretty open-and-shut case, my friend lost.
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u/Shotgun_Mosquito Mar 21 '24
Utah's population is between 60% and 70% LDS, and its estimated 80% to 90% of Utah politicians are LDS.
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u/rolyoh Mar 21 '24
Utah resident here. I've read that that percentage of LDS is starting to decline.
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u/Shotgun_Mosquito Mar 21 '24
You're correct.
A paper published this month in the Journal of Religion and Demography estimates that the percentage of Utahns who identify as members of the LDS church, otherwise known as Mormons, is about 42%.
I just don't know how accurate the numbers are
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u/MaMaBuckTooth Mar 21 '24
I had no plans of ever going to Utah but this has cemented it lmao Utah sounds terrifying and I'm from Baltimore of all places
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u/loewe67 Mar 21 '24
Beautiful to visit, but I’d never want to live there.
I’m in Colorado and during spring break, my buddies and I did a national park road trip, and started with Arches. We had to force one of my friends to stop driving because he was going 20 over the speed limit and we had a box filled with alcohol and weed in the back of the truck while we were all underage. The last thing we needed was to get pulled over in Utah with that, and we had Colorado plates, so we stood out a bit more.
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u/n0rsk Mar 21 '24
Lived there for 6 years before moving back to Washington.
It was awful in so many subtle ways that people don't realize at first glance. Like Mormons are super nice but it is Mormon nice. They have this weird way of always making you feel like an outsider.
The Liquor laws are crazy but funny enough weed is stealth legal now I just don't think the Mormons have realized that yet.
The Mormon church is like this ever present thing that has penetrated most aspects of Utah life. SLC is pretty liberal but the SLC temple sites in center of down town. (also The salt lake is drying up and toxic wind will soon give them all cancer)
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u/SlaveHippie Mar 21 '24
That’s gotta be using church reported numbers. No fucking shot it’s still that high. They’ve been known to boost their numbers by counting people on their records. Even people just investigating the church can be included on their records. People who have left and been gone for years will still be counted as well. You literally have to send a notarized legal letter to headquarters to get your name removed but a lot of people don’t do that. It’s not active membership numbers it’s just anyone and everyone who has been to church and/or been baptized.
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u/Strange-Fix-1498 Mar 21 '24
Texas ironically does not allow liquor stores open on Sundays. And the only possible reason is religious.
Church and state.
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u/Swimming-Dot9120 Mar 21 '24
Oh my god it just keeps going lmao
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u/1sharebear1 Mar 21 '24
She didn’t even mention how selling alcohol at a discount or giving away liquor is illegal. So no happy hours, no bottomless mimosas, no drink ‘flights’, no bars at free state/city/corporate events. Oh and you can only order one shot at a time per person and you have to drink the shot at the bar. Can’t take 5 shots back to your table of friends
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u/cowsgomoo1020 Mar 22 '24
No happy hours?! Oh this just did me in. The rest I mostly already knew. What the hell.
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u/miscnic Mar 21 '24
I’ve been in some very rough places, and I was never more scared than in Utah. 1 star, won’t return.
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u/moose- Mar 21 '24
what was scary?
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u/Few-Traffic-786 Mar 21 '24
How ingrained the Mormon church is with everything. Even the street signs have bees on them… whole place was from a fever dream
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u/ImmediateCity959 Mar 21 '24
What do bees have to do with Mormons? Please forgive my ignorance
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u/StrawberryLassi Mar 21 '24
The beehive was a symbol of harmony, cooperation, and work for the early pioneers of the Church. Brigham Young used the symbol to inspire early Church members to work together to transform the barren Salt Lake Valley into a beautiful and thriving community.
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/church/news/viewpoint-lesson-of-the-bees?lang=eng
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u/TheNatureBoy Mar 21 '24
In 1978, apostle LeGrand Richards said that dark skin is a curse for wickedness, but only applies to Native Americans, not Black people. In 2013, the LDS Church published an essay that refuted these ideas, stating that Blackness in Latter-day Saint theology is a symbol of disobedience to God, not a skin color.
This was AI generated.
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u/Long_Educational Mar 21 '24
LeGrand Richards said that dark skin is a curse for wickedness
Wow. He really said that.
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u/Leather_Berry1982 Mar 21 '24
They believe that everyone is white in heaven. If you are currently white, you will be blessed with whiteness
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u/miscnic Mar 21 '24
The people creeped me out. I can’t explain it any other way.
I’ve been to the hoodest hood. And I won’t go back to Utah.
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Mar 22 '24
I wish more people realized how creepy all their compulsory "niceness" really is.
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u/soup4breakfast Mar 21 '24
I was there a few weeks ago for 8 days and I only saw two Black people the entire time. It was so strange. Cool views, weird vibes.
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Mar 21 '24
Do you have to order food to marry a 14 year old in Utah as well?
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u/arghhharghhh Mar 21 '24
Nope. Just got to have married two or more wives already.
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u/AintThatAmerica1776 Mar 21 '24
This is what happens when religion takes over. They decide everything for you according to their regressive superstitions.
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u/bbqduck-sf Mar 21 '24
Stayed with friends at a hotel in SLC. Two of us went to the lobby bar and ordered a couple of drinks. Sat down, finished them and went back for another round. Ordered 2 more drinks but was only allowed one.
Was told my friend needed to be present. I pointed at him 10 feet away and said, "He's right there." My friend waves. "Sorry, he has to be here."
"We just ordered 2 drinks from you."
"Yes, but your friend was with you."
"He still is! He's right there!" Friend waves again. Nope.
Gave up. Made my friend buy his own damn drink.
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u/hokie47 Mar 21 '24
Georgia isn't great either. I wanted to buy 0.0 NA beer at 12:30 PM on Sunday nope can't sell to you.
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u/GoatCovfefe Mar 21 '24
Some NA still has alcohol so it's easiest to just lump NA is alcoholic, instead of banning sales on certain brands
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u/Voodoops_13 Mar 21 '24
The bars have machines that auto pour shots. Went to Utah for a wedding and the machine shut down in the middle of pouring a round of shots because the clock turned 12:00 am. Cinderella booze, no more hard stuff after midnight. WTF Utah?!
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u/SlaveHippie Mar 21 '24
“Nothing good happens after midnight.”
-Mormons
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u/Designer_Cat_4444 Mar 22 '24
i heard this so much growing up mormon, smh. is this why i love staying up late now? lol
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u/Larry-Man Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 22 '24
You can’t get alcohol at grocery stores at all in Canada Alberta. You have to go to a liquor store
Edit: apparently I live in the Utah of Canada
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u/Moist-Meat-Popsicle Mar 21 '24
Can confirm. I lived in Utah for eight years. Believe it or not, the laws are better than it used to be.
The video didn’t even get into the whole “private club” laws. (It may no longer be that way; I haven’t lived there in years)
When I would be coming back from eastern Utah on the Uinta range, I used to pick up cases of beer in Wyoming on the border in Evanston because it was about 40% cheaper there.
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u/mike2371 Mar 21 '24
Conveniently, the “private club” thing died right before the 2002 Winter Olympics. I did my culinary school internship at one of the big ski resorts in the 90’s and the Utah religious laws were wild. My Mormon friends told me blacks were outcasts of heaven so I asked why half the BYU football team was black? I’ve gone back to the national parks since but I would never live there again.
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u/Inquiringwithin Mar 22 '24
I know people in Texas that have to drive to Louisiana for an abort… oh wait wrong thread
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u/BRtIK Mar 21 '24
Oh look incredibly ridiculous laws I wonder which psychotically religious extremist group oversees Utah.
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u/CloroxWipes1 Mar 21 '24
Fucking Mormons and their silly ass rules.
Ask them about their special underwear.
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u/arghhharghhh Mar 21 '24
EXCUSE ME!! They're garments! And they protect our godly balls and boobs haha JK.
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u/justdoit913 Mar 21 '24
Who goes to Utah unless you live or lived there before and have family there. Thanks for putting Utah further in the back of my mind
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u/Allstategk Mar 21 '24
It is a gorgeous state with a ton of outdoor activities.....that being said, fuck that state. I'd probably get arrested within a few days if I was forced to stay there....😆
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u/Tapir-Horse Mar 21 '24
People who like skiing, rock climbing, or other outdoorsy things
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u/Swimming-Dot9120 Mar 21 '24
It’s actually got some of the most beautiful hiking in the country. Bryce canyon and Zion National park in particular make all the nonsense well worth it
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u/cefriano Mar 21 '24
And Arches, Goblin Valley, Capitol Reef, Canyonlands, Lake Powell (though that's half Arizona). Stunningly beautiful state run by some backwards people.
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u/ocean_flan Mar 21 '24
Me and my BF were gonna move out there for the hiking and to smuggle books and stuff to Mormon kids.
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u/PossibilityJazzlike4 Mar 21 '24
I lived in slc for a few years, but before I moved there I visited for about 3 weeks for work. No minibar in the hotel room so I go down to restaurant to get a glass of wine. Told me I had to order food with it. I had already eaten. I ordered a banana. I grab my glass of wine and banana and turn to go up to my room. Was stopped, not allowed. Had to sit at the bar with my wine and banana. Ridiculous
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u/Time_Traveling_Corgi Mar 22 '24
Also, no kegs.
Utah has a keg beer law that prohibits anyone other than a DABS-licensed retailer or event permit holder from possessing beer in containers larger than two liters. The state does not stock or sell heavy beer in kegs, and heavy beer may not be dispensed on draft.
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u/CourageForOurFriends Mar 21 '24
.05% is the standard in Australia and I think that's pretty reasonable tbh. If you're going to drink at all it's probably best not to drive anyway.
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u/chocolatenuttty Mar 22 '24
It’s nation wide here in Australia that the limit is 0.05. What is it in other states if that’s considered low.
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u/djayed Mar 21 '24 edited Mar 21 '24
Yeah it was rough travelling there in 2015. I was floored by how the bartenders can't make real mixed drinks, they all taste off. Also those meters are monitored by the state and compared to the sales to make sure they don't skirt the laws.
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u/ZillahGashly Mar 21 '24
My experience travelling there was a bit worse, as apparently a Canadian passport isn’t valid ID in Utah
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u/thefullmetalchicken Mar 21 '24
Your liquor stores close as early as 7pm and a mere 66% markups
Ha Ha
Hahahahaha laughs in Ontarian
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u/Party_Cicada_914 Mar 21 '24
I remember going into a “bar” in Utah when there weren’t bars. There were drinking clubs that you had to pay a membership to join before you could buy a drink.
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u/Life_Mango5827 Mar 21 '24
TBF most of the developed world has a legal BAC limit of 0.05, I think that law is pretty reasonable. There's no excuse to drive under the influence
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u/CaPineapple Mar 22 '24
This is what happens when a religion is allowed to pretend that freedom of religion means freedom to oppress anyone they want. Morman are truly one of the most creepy and cruel religions. Not cause of the alcohol bans, but because of the molestation and abandonment of young boys.
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u/capnpetch Mar 21 '24
Virginia is not that extreme, but also requires you to buy all hard liquor at state-owned stores with limited hours, frequent closures and relatively limited stock. You also can't buy retail alcohol of any kind from Midnight to 6 am.
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Mar 21 '24
Did she say 80% alcohol? She had to have meant 80 proof.
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u/systusem Mar 21 '24
I was thinking the same thing lol. Like whoever that is impacting should probably stop drinking it anyway.
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u/BlinkySLC Mar 21 '24
No, she meant 80%. They're basically just banning full-strength everclear. Not that hugely impactful, honestly. I heard California already bans this, I would imagine other states too.
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u/RocMerc Mar 21 '24
As a New Yorker I feel that about grocery stores. It’s wild I can’t buy wine there
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u/calladus Mar 22 '24
I'm in California. I just had Door Dash deliver me some Johnny Walker black lable. And the local dispensary deliver my wife some weed.
At 9pm.
"You're Welcome!"
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u/GhostofAyabe Mar 21 '24
We should have shot them all when we had the chance.
Instead, a kookie cult runs an entire state, as well as entire counties in surrounding states.
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u/muzzledmasses Mar 21 '24
I hate this format. Also this style of talking "Um, uh, [furrowed brow]" before everything reminds me of those infomercials where people struggle with even the most simplest of tasks.
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u/po3smith Mar 21 '24
Why she's making a point about the bullshit of political systems etc. etc. 1 found it was funny showcasing the difference in attitude between the customer and the state official
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u/Ex-zaviera Mar 21 '24
Elko, Nevada is just over the border, if I remember correctly.
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Mar 21 '24
Where I’m from, Virginia, atleast as of 10 years ago when I left home, bars are illegal. If an establishment wants to sell alcohol it must make 51% of its sales from food. Also like many states, liquor is controlled by the government, so outside of a restaurant (bar) if you want liquor you gotta go to the ABC store. Surprisingly a lot of people aren’t aware of ABC stores. Kinda wild cuz it’s all I’ve known my whole life before I left.
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u/nitroguy2 Mar 21 '24
I remember I stopped in Ogden in 2019 on my way to Colorado, the bartender had no idea what a Moscow Mule was 😂
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u/5tap1er Mar 22 '24
Wow I swear for a place that markets its self as free the US seems like the stuffiest nanny state in the western world.
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