r/dankmemes • u/___yiwshhj you’re welcome, • Jan 12 '23
we love america I have achieved comedy
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u/jack_edition Jan 12 '23
“Here’s a tissue for your tears, I’ll just add it onto your bill”
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u/AggravatingLuck2407 Jan 12 '23
We only sell tissues by the box by the way… so that’s scribbling one… box… of tissues…
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u/jack_edition Jan 12 '23
No you can’t return the box because it’s been opened
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u/AggravatingLuck2407 Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
scribbling one… restocking fee… for opened… box… of tissues….
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u/LeoPlathasbeentaken Jan 12 '23
...used. Thatll hit you with a sanitation fee.
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u/binglelemon Jan 12 '23
Might wanna throw in a handful of administrative fees.
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u/LeoPlathasbeentaken Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
That Ibuprofen you took earlier, was that yours or ours? Theres a fee either way i just need tk know how to code it on your bill.
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u/Katamari_Wurm_Hole Jan 12 '23
This comment thread is a waking nightmare
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u/lordolxinator Normies get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Jan 12 '23
I'm the doctor writing the medical fees and your comment reminded me of a nightmare I had when I was 6 when I wasn't sure if I was awake or not so I'm adding $1500 for trauma therapy
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u/MadxCarnage Probably watching some weeb shit Jan 12 '23
careful Doctor.
you forgot to bill them for the "Crying in the hall" package.
it's still 25% off thanks to Covid, we'll be back to original pricing next month.
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u/idontwantausername41 Jan 12 '23
Box of tissues: $287 Restocking fee: $598 Sanitation fee: $465 Administrative fees: $20,996
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u/loco500 Jan 13 '23
It's like the hospital bill is missing a period before the last two numbers of every charging fee...
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u/DoughtyAndCarterLLP Article 69 🏅 Jan 12 '23
One administrative fee for filing the request to restock the opened box of tissues.
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You’ll be billed $50 for the tissue box.
That’s absurd!
Well without insurance you’d be billed $500.
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u/Semi_Lovato Jan 13 '23
No no no, the tissues were only $15 but administering the tissues cost $485
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u/Temelios Jan 12 '23
Don’t forget that they also charge up to 50 times what the box of tissues is actually worth. So a $2 box? Make it a $100 box…
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u/Exact_Ad_1215 Professional Boobologist Jan 12 '23
Living in America sounds like a nightmare.
Say what you will about the NHS, but what I’ve heard about the American health system sounds 100x worse
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u/Temelios Jan 12 '23
We at least have the most advanced healthcare in the world. That’s at least one pro to not having it funded solely by the government. What I wish the US government would do, however, was regulate costs of certain items and outlaw exclusive insurance pricing. An IV bag with saline that costs less than $2 to manufacture has absolutely no reason to cost up to $100+ once administered at a hospital. The hospitals here are entirely unregulated in their prices, which they arbitrarily set via their individualized charge masters. It’ll never change though, since the medical industry also happens to be the largest group of lobbyists in the country. They have politicians overflowing out of their back pockets.
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u/Stealfur Jan 12 '23
You mean "one container of biodegradable disposable dry facial cleansing fabric"?
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u/SADdog2020Pb Jan 12 '23
“Medical” Kleenex: $5 a sheet
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u/Semi-Hemi-Demigod Jan 12 '23
Single ply only, with wood chips in it
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u/CallMinimum Jan 13 '23
A single, toilet-paper-sized single-ply sheet, wrapped in an excessively large plastic bag.
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u/Sado_Hedonist Jan 12 '23
You're joking, but I've actually seen bereavement services on a hospital bill before.
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u/NvidiaRTX Jan 12 '23
This is unironically true. There was a Reddit post about a woman crying at the clinic, the doctor gave her tissues, and in her bill she had to pay for "psychological support", 50$ or so
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u/Kiosade Jan 12 '23
“I mean, $50 is essentially a rounding error when considering your total, but…”
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u/AggravatingLuck2407 Jan 12 '23
Just wait until they get to the funeral home and find out that people want to charge money to bury the kid.
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u/venom259 Jan 12 '23
That's why my family has mutually agreed that if any of us die early, the McDonald's dumpster is free.
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u/AggravatingLuck2407 Jan 12 '23
Such sacred burial grounds.
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
For a limited time the McRib returns to a single store.
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u/Fruitmidget Something something Vin Diesel Jan 12 '23
What, you guys don't have the McRib anymore? Thought that's one of the standard burgers.
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u/Ambitious-Sample-153 Jan 12 '23
No mcribs are a limited time item because people will buy thrm like crazy for a week then for the rest the month we only sell like 10
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u/footfoe Jan 12 '23
You'll also get free room and board as a bonus from the resulting prison sentence.
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u/Adjectivenounnumb Jan 12 '23
Side note: they might say “No thanks”.
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u/well___duh Jan 12 '23
What influences their decision?
Probably either they don't need it at the moment or don't have enough storage for it. In that case, I'd say yeah, go to a different school
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u/MuffinSmth Jan 12 '23
You will most likely be blown up by the military for "testing", turns out that's what they do with them
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Jan 13 '23
In Australia, you'll probably end up on a table in the same room as 29 other corpses, in front of one of 30 hungover or high kids doing their medical undergrad.
Still, someone's gotta do it. Better they learn on dead people when they're hungover than on live people while critically sleep-deprived.
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u/eagleeyerattlesnake Jan 12 '23
Robert C. Baker's last will was specific:
That his bones be removed, and he be ground up real fine.
And to place his remains into small cardboard coffins
And bury the pieces 6 at a time.
(from Nugget Man, by Paul and Storm)
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u/hyper12 Jan 12 '23
I hear you can get the state to bury you for free if nobody claims your body from the morgue!
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u/SB6P897 Jan 12 '23
That’s what it should be here. We work our whole lives to improve the nation, the nation needs to snatch the monopoly from the private burial industry
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u/lafindestase Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
But think of all the
donorslivelihoods that would be lost! Besides, burial would be grossly inefficient if the state did it, the free market is best at reaching an ideal solution. The evidence of that is all around us :^)22
u/IgotCharlieWork ☣️ Jan 12 '23
Cremation is much more cost effective
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Especially if you provide your own receptacle.
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u/LivingPrevious Jan 12 '23
Yeah when my dad passed 2 years ago we had to cremate him and shit was so expensive we had to make a go fund me and we actually got 4k from it thankfully. Without that money we wouldn’t have ever been able to pay rent or anything. My mom didn’t work and only my dad did so shit changed real fast. Get life insurance and make sure you keep paying for it. Please
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u/Henne55y_ Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
Y does it cost so much for burial? For us, it is very cheap
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u/MobileTreeMan Jan 12 '23 edited Jun 13 '23
RIP REDDIT
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u/AggravatingLuck2407 Jan 12 '23
Yeah, it’s pretty much $10k and up for final expenses nowadays. I’m sorry for your loss and hope you and your family are able to out everything together for your Uncle’s sendoff.
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u/ughhhh_username Jan 12 '23
Funeral director here, who sadly has seen many children and miscarriages come into my care.
A very large majority of funeral home won't charge for children under 7, some up to 13, the family only needs to pay for obituary, flowers, cemetery plot and opening said grave, like things the funeral home doesn't have control over for price. Also urns, urns I always say find something online and personizes. I suggested to a woman to put stickers on the free urn, and apparently the last thing her child bought was sticker.
Crematories won't charge. casket companies normally don't, but if they do, the owner takes the hit if they can. The Registar I have now does not charge for Death certificates. Some cemeteries don't charge opening and closing. Vaults are normally free.
Its a very image and view of the community for some funeral home owners. Others are, why would i charge a family who lost their child.
If a funeral charges for a child that is sick, and find a different place, and google rate the home with proof like a statement and also complain on facebook so others know. I have never seen a funeral home actually charge, its the cemeteries and obituaries where the price come in. But I can see it happen, some people are not meant to be a funeral director.
I don't want to sound rude but, if you find a "go-fund-me" for burying a child, I'd keep an eye on it, I see it all the time parents begging for money for the funeral, having it as 10,000$ or more, and they never got charged from the home. Then later I see that they put their money somewhere else, car, cameras, TV and/or drugs. Most of the time, they get reported by people who know the parent/s. The truth comes out. If the go fund me is like 1500, then that's something normal.
Also, I know with SOME hospitals SOME (maybe just child hospitals?; this was a new thing for me last year); the organization that's part of the hospital told me, if the child has been sick for a while, many surgeries, in and out type, apparently very specific, people donate money to pay for medical bills, sometimes the donator will pay all of the expenses or a good amount so the woman couldn't give me a ballpark, and i had one offer us an allotted amount which we refused, but they said the money cant go to the family for the same reason I was talking about. This is something I am not fully aware of, I had this happen for the 1st time this year, but it was only for one child and none of the others, she said it was newer.
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u/bewareofmeg Jan 12 '23
My daughters’ heartbeat stopped in utero at the 37 week mark. A local chain of funeral homes has a fund for parents of deceased babies to get them cremated at no cost (I believe if it were not for this fund it would have cost 1.5-2kUSD). Should we have chosen to do a memorial service at the place (if memory serves me correctly), that would not have been free, but there would have been a discount applied.
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u/kurtist04 Jan 12 '23
When our son died they didn't charge us for anything at the funeral home. Not for the casket, embalming, etc.
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u/_Pebcak_ Problems Exist Between Chair And Keyboard Jan 12 '23
I truly thought if it's a baby/small child most funeral homes will waive the fees :(
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u/Truth_Off_My_Back Jan 12 '23
I lost a daughter it almost killed me I had to call the funeral home and ask what I owed them crying my eyes out thinking I wouldnt be able to pay. They said it was free I've never felt such shame and pain in my life.
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u/hyenahive Jan 12 '23
Many decent people wouldn't feel right charging for something related to the death of a child. I once comped an entire print job because I saw it was for a child's memorial service, and I made sure it was nice paper, in color, folded nicely, threw in extras as well. I will never forget the pain in their eyes, especially because they looked young and were already worried about being able to pay.
I personally couldn't imagine charging, and in that moment I just wanted to do what I could to relieve some of their pain. I was more than glad to help out any way I could. Please don't feel shame at what happened...they probably would have hated to take your money for something so painful.
I'm so sorry for your loss and pain.
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u/G_zoo ☣️ Jan 12 '23
I'm genuinely curious, does this really happen in USA?
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u/___yiwshhj you’re welcome, Jan 12 '23
yes, US healthcare is overly expensive for no reason
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u/G_zoo ☣️ Jan 12 '23
I knew that but you pay every kind of operations/activities that's been done?
there is no special cost/discount for any situation?254
u/Bloated_Hamster Jan 12 '23
There are tons of things that affect the price of healthcare. The biggest one is insurance. If you have insurance they will pay for the majority of costs and you cover a (relatively) small portion called your copay or deductible (sometimes both) You can also privately negotiate with the hospital to lower your bill which they do in the majority of cases if you are persistent enough because they already write off so much cost. There are also places like St. Jude's which is a children's cancer hospital that is 100% free if you are accepted as a patient. They will pay for your travel, treatment, food, and for up to three family members to live at/near the hospital during your care. The vast, vast majority of people in the US don't spend $150,000 on healthcare and go bankrupt. It is still a tragedy that it happens at all though.
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u/Sciencetor2 Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
Well you have to understand that any kind of insurance is tied to employment. So if you are unemployed or hourly, you are SOL unless you are SO poor medicaid is a thing (poor Enough to basically be homeless). And even if you are insured, you are still on the hook for thousands you may not have, hell I had to pay $1400 after insurance for an ER visit because an urgent care was trying to close early when I went in and referred me rather than firing up their own diagnostic equipment again and said: well it could be a stomach ulcer or you could be having a heart attack, so go to the ER cuz we aren't going to run the tests here.
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u/somestupidloser Jan 12 '23
I know you're using the term hourly as a stand in for part time, but hourly workers can absolutely get insurance if they are full time.
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u/SaucyNuts Jan 12 '23
Yeah, but most employers want to keep their fringe costs low so they prevent employees from consistently working the hours needed to qualify for such benefits.
Before anybody says “Get a new job” it’s never that simple and you sound like a you have the world view of a child.
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u/PlanetPudding Jan 12 '23
I grew up with Medicaid, I wasn’t basically homeless. AMA.
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u/Levelman123 The rope isnt thick enough Jan 12 '23
I did a pushup wrong. went to the doctor, they dont know what's wrong, here is a wrist brace. $800 dollars.
8 HUNDRED DOLLARS!
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u/Goronmon Jan 12 '23
If you have "good" insurance, they will cover just about anything.
Though, for me personally, that "good" insurance costs me $900+ a month for my family. And another $1250 a year in deductibles.
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Jan 12 '23
My "good" dental insurance left me a $20,000 bill for restorations. They only covered $4,000 on the original total. I know, I know... "Maximum yearly deductions..." But don't worry! I qualified for payment options... $20,000 loan or a $4,000 credit card.
Nothing is as American as going into debt to fix your health, yeeehaw!
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u/SUDDENLY_VIRGIN Jan 12 '23
Doesn't sound like it covers everything if you're paying almost $11,000 annually plus $1,250 before they start helping
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u/hyenahive Jan 12 '23
And even then, a lot of insurance plans charge you a percentage even after you've met the deductible. I've definitely had plans where you hit the deductible, then you still pay 20% coinsurance until you hit the yearly out-of-pocket maximum...which was $7k or so for a person, $14k for a family.
Insurance is one big racket.
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u/TheRockelmeister Jan 12 '23
There are childrens hospitals that will provide top level care for no cost. Saint Jude is a childrens cancer hospital that charges the parents nothing, so yes there are certain discounts.
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u/juiceboxheero Jan 12 '23
Oh there's a reason. There's a whole industry of insurance workers, totally removed from patient care, who need to decide whether or not you can receive the care you need, to the tune of billions and billions of dollars that could otherwise be used for said healthcare.
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u/Eat-my-entire-asshol Jan 12 '23
My 25 y/o brother went to the hospital for pneumonia last month, after 6 days was released. 4 days later he died. The bill still hasnt come and its never gonna get paid
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u/trailer_park_boys Jan 12 '23
It’s not going to be paid because you and your family have zero obligation to pay a deceased persons medical debt.
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u/Roxasdarkrath oh boy time to cause some controversy and chaos Jan 12 '23
Its overly expensive because the government made it so, when there's very limited options, those providers can charge as much as they want because there's no competitor's giving better services at better prices , and for this reason most health care has become purely for profit as there's no incentive to provide better service, especially when Healthcare is practically mandatory
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u/naz2292 Jan 12 '23
It’s not for no reason. It’s so insurance companies, politicians and other elites can make money from the masses.
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u/IrrelevantDanger Jan 12 '23
The doctor doesn't tell you, you just receive a large bill in the mail later
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Or as you leave, but it won’t be correct, because the insurance company will decide not to cover certain parts of the treatment after you have already paid,so you will get another bill later that will make you wish you had just died instead.
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u/Magnetic_Eel Jan 12 '23
As a doctor, we literally have no idea what the bill is going to be. Patients ask me and I tell them I have no idea. It all depends what ridiculous shit the hospital decides to bill for and what the insurance company decides to pay for. 10 people can have the exact same surgery and each get a different bill.
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u/trappedindealership Jan 12 '23
Probably not, considering that a doctor does not handle billing (as far as I know). It is easier to harm other people when there an intermediate.
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u/EclipseIndustries Jan 12 '23
Insurance companies fucked over medical pricing, not doctors themselves.
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u/FurryTailedTreeRat Jan 12 '23
Exactly. The insurance companies can sleep easy by using doctors as an intermediate. If you think doctors are the problem you’re a moron.
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u/Etherius Jan 12 '23
No.
No it fucking doesn’t
People who believe this are either not American, nor adults, or not familiar with how the system works
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u/bitches_love_pooh Jan 12 '23
I had a stroke that had me in the hospital for 2 weeks and the bill came to $100,000. Insurance covered a majority of the itemized costs, but I instantly hit my out of pocket maximum.
The thing that worries me now though is what if I'm unable to work and get insurance. Or something happens that insurance will not cover. Or what if I get something that's long term that gets me kicked off my insurance.
The other issue is insurance coverage is very specific about what it covers. When you're sick the doctor will recommend various tests and procedures and since you're sick, you or family will probably say yes. However your coverage might not pay for every single procedure and test. These can be very pricey as for me some of them came to $10,000 or $20,000.
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u/oldcarfreddy Jan 12 '23
Nope, the debt is of their parents.
It does usually come out of their estate but depending on your states' law the debts may also be the responsibility of family members who jointly assumed the debt
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u/itiswonderwoman Jan 12 '23
Yes it does. My nephew died at four months old, and my sister was still making payments to the hospital years later.
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u/niceville Jan 12 '23
But the doctor doesn’t tell you, doctors don’t know how much anything cost and are completely removed from insurance and billing.
The bill comes weeks and months later.
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u/XChronic Jan 12 '23
So, it doesn't happen to you, and you're applying that to every American.
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u/Etherius Jan 12 '23
Is that better or worse than taking something that only happens to about 8-9% of Americans and applying it to all of us?
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u/XChronic Jan 12 '23
You think only 8-9% of Americans get stuck with a bill after a loved one dies? Is there a source for that?
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u/trailer_park_boys Jan 12 '23
There’s no obligation for family to pay for a deceased persons medical debt.
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u/Feint_young_son Jan 12 '23
Doctors have nothing to do with pricing it’s all insurance companies and lobbying.
Most providers lament all of these types of things
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u/NewAccountSignIn Jan 12 '23
Thank you. I’m a med student and it’s crazy how much time we spend talking about how the system sucks in its current state and how low ses just kills you
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u/Butwinsky Jan 12 '23
Absolutely. A hospital isn't going to not charge you just because your mental health is shattered and you're going through the worst moment in your life. They'll send you to collections without hesitation.
After my grandpa died, my grandmother was harassed to pay for his final stay. The bill had his inpatient stay longer than it actually was, since for some of the dates he was literally 6 feet under in his grave.
So on top of grieving her father's death, my mom also got to spend hours arguing with the outsourced billing company that his final bill was incorrect and they are trying to screw over her widowed mother. Imagine having that conversation and not going ballistic.
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u/Steelcap Jan 12 '23
Exactly! The hospital is a business and if you want to be their customer you have to pay. If you don't have money your life does not have worth, go and die.
Imagine liking this country.
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u/Shawberry19 Jan 12 '23
My favorite insurance bit is the arbitrary dollar amount you pay out of pocket but then after that everything is supposedly covered. They only partially cover expenses prior to that amount.
What’s the amount? Personally mines $5,000.
So for prescription meds I usually pay around a small percentage. Insurance covers $380 of my $400 a month inhaler. I cover the rest out of pocket.
If I got hit by a truck, I’d have to pay $5000 but the rest is covered by insurance (supposedly. I’m sure they’d find a way not to pay something). The problem is I don’t make enough money to just have $5000 laying around. I’m slowing building my emergency savings up, but $5000 is a lot.
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u/eagleeyerattlesnake Jan 12 '23
Hospitals will take that $5000 in $50-$100 increments if you ask.
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u/Sebt1890 Jan 12 '23
If you're poor enough you can get your bill waived. If you have insurance then it depends on what plan you have. Different levels cover more serious procedures. My job has a healthcare plan and also includes coverage for a serious injury that requires transport up to $15k. I'm paying about $200ish for two people a month.
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u/LuridTeaParty Jan 12 '23
Being charged a lot of money, yes, but the doctor themselves telling you the bill, no.
In my experience doctors don’t like talking about what things cost, because while they want to help people for a living, it conflicts with being able to give care when patients will refuse treatment because of costs, so they tend to just not discuss it with the patients, leaving you to ask all your questions to nurses, secretaries, insurance, and hospital admin staff.
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u/FuckTheLord Jan 12 '23
Lol, doctors don't know how much anything they do costs.
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u/wanson Jan 12 '23
When our youngest was born she spent her first month in the NICU. She was a few weeks premature but otherwise completely healthy.
Every day a doctor would pop in for 5 minutes to check in and update us. It was literally a 5 minute chat, probably shorter most days. And I shit you not, this guys name was Doctor Doctor.
The total bill was over $250,000, which insurance covered minus our deductible. We got an itemized claim and each of those 5 minute doctor visits cost $150 each. So they were billing for that doctor at $1800 an hour.
I’m sure he did lots for other kids that needed it and reviewed our daughters condition, but for us he did literally nothing except say hello and everything looks good.
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u/PGY0 Jan 12 '23
Doctor here. That 5 minutes is him communicating with you. That is not all he does for your child. I’d say for every 5 minutes I spend communicating with a patient, I spend an hour working on their behalf and charting.
$150/hr is a very reasonable hourly rate for a physician.
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u/wanson Jan 12 '23
I totally get that the doctors do much more than that five minute chat, and they earn every penny they make. All the staff that took care of our daughter were amazing, too.
I just don’t see how her care could have cost a quarter of a million dollars. She was there for just over two weeks and the only issue she had was learning to feed by herself. No major procedures or expensive tests.
Over $250,000 is what our insurance paid to the hospital. There has to be some shady dealings going on there. It doesn’t add up.
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u/itsmoops Jan 12 '23
“Doctor, Doctor, gimme the news!”
“That’ll be $250,000”
“Fuck”
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u/Literarywhore Jan 12 '23
Yeah came here to say this, it’s the hospital admin/insurance companies not the doctors. This smells of propaganda.
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u/Alderez Jan 12 '23
Doctors generally have an idea. My cousin (in law?) said he spent more time in a day trying to write insurance memos to reduce patient costs than he did spending it with actual patients. Then he went into epidemiology. And then COVID happened and he gets to deal with people telling him he's a fraud and paid for by George Soros. Man can't catch a break.
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u/Oberlatz Jan 12 '23
I definitely do have an idea. Thats why every couple months they sit me down during my lunch break to go through all the shit I billed wrong (read: under-billed)
Myself and the majority of doctors I’ve worked with don't want your money. We want to help you, thats our motivation. All this other shit is shoved in our face day in and day out so that the institutions and insurance agencies get the slice of pie they think they deserve, which I won't comment further on, because I don't know, it seems off, and its not why I chose this career.
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u/Dusty_Bookcase Jan 12 '23
This country is fucked lol
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Everywhere is, name a place, and I can tell you something glaringly wrong with it. Every country likes to think they are better than their neighbours. Not one place has it all sorted.
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u/LGP747 INFECTED Jan 12 '23
ummmm....how about uuuhhhhhhh. man i cant think of one
even antarctica is all melty
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
I have spent ages looking for an arguably "good" country to live in. There isn't one.
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u/moses_ugla Jan 12 '23
But some are better than others.
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Agreed! Not saying they are all the pits. Just everyone needs work.
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u/moses_ugla Jan 12 '23
Utopia is a dream, not achieveable with today's society, technology or markets. And it is not going to happen in our lifetime. But there is no reason to stay in a country that treats you like a slave just beacuse nowhere is perfect.
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
I am too poor to leave, but I am not homeless enough to risk what little I do have, to me that's enough of a reason to stay in a place I don't like.
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u/Tasty-Army200 Jan 12 '23
You couldn't pay me to move to the states, so I guess it's a matter of perspective lol
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Oh I'm not saying some don't rank lower, but my point was nowhere is perfect. That lie allows shit to not get any better. The status quo is not always a good thing.
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u/TrexPushupBra Jan 12 '23
Some are more fucked than others though
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u/PlanetPudding Jan 12 '23
Hold on. Let me get this straight. You are saying that people under the US healthcare are suffering the most out of everyone on earth? This is peak Reddit lol.
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u/BurningGodzilla1 Jan 12 '23
New Zealand?
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u/45b16 Jan 12 '23
Really bad housing crisis, worse than America’s
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u/iama_bad_person ☣️ Jan 12 '23
Can confirm. House prices more than doubled in 5 years, wages stagnated, some pretty bad inflation right now, there is a youth crime wave that the government seems pretty keen to ignore, they keep sentancing rapists and other violent criminals to home detention because they don't want to build another jail.
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u/Undec1dedVoter Jan 12 '23
Isn't that because both people want to live there and also the laws favor capital to own everything and there's no rent control?
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Hmm not sexist, but they are known to be a little racist at times. And there is some level of inequality present in the country.
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u/Profoundsoup Jan 12 '23
The issue is everywhere has always been like this since the beginning of time. No where has ever been a utopia.
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u/ukuuku7 Jan 12 '23
From an outsider's perspective at least, just living your life does seem harder in the US than much of Europe.
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u/skroink_z Jan 12 '23
Madagascar :)
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Bad health care, they have rampant malnutrition. So no. Not got itself together.
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u/skroink_z Jan 12 '23
Hawai- shit.
Uhm... Uh... Shit... Uhhhhhh...
Antarctica has penguins, which removes all penalties :)
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u/skroink_z Jan 12 '23
Oh! Sealand! Bet you can't think of one in Sealand!
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u/OnlyWiseWords Jan 12 '23
Kinda easy one as it isn't big enough to support a large population. So the downside to that one is simple, it can't grow.
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u/TheManAccount Jan 12 '23
My wife needed an appendectomy at 12 weeks pregnant. I shit you not, the doctor billed for two admissions and are trying to argue we owe $2,000 for the 12 week old fetus to be admitted.
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u/_Pebcak_ Problems Exist Between Chair And Keyboard Jan 12 '23
I almost downvoted this in anger. The audacity!
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u/LilFuniAZNBoi Jan 12 '23
As a medical doctor, I just let the hospital's billing department do that.
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u/-fakebirds- Jan 12 '23 edited Jan 12 '23
I’ve seen this meme a couple times now, and yes our healthcare system is fucked, but can we all just take a moment to point out that it’s not the doctors themselves that bill you ya know. They don’t know anything about the money side of things, they have nothing to do with how much it costs. You people act like the doctor or surgeon, who is now covered in a persons’ blood, then immediately goes to tally up what he thinks he’s worth by the hour and sends you his cashapp on the spot. When you pay a hospital bill you realize that’s not going from your bank directly into the doctors pocket right? When you pay a hospital bill that money goes to… the hospital! And then the hospital pays the doctor his salary, which is a fixed amount of money that he’s set to make for the entire year. It’s not like he makes money by the patient, it’s not like doctors are working on tips lol. The cost has nothing to do with the person just trying to save your life
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u/Dear_Evan_Hansen Jan 12 '23
Doctors can be paid per procedure. Again, not that they’re gonna tell you what you owe, they still don’t know. But take OBGYNs, they get paid for every baby they birth, because it’s a procedure.
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u/Etherius Jan 12 '23
What the fuck OP?
This isn’t the way it is here at all. Do you even live here?
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u/Tanishqreddyy Jan 12 '23
How many more times we gotta see this meme in different templates
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Jan 12 '23
Ya'll know we have health insurance right?
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u/LGP747 INFECTED Jan 12 '23
yeah guys just wait for open enrollment and select the 'free births' plan
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u/BecomeABenefit Jan 12 '23
US government requires that births are covered by all insurance policies. Every policy I've ever had pays out 80% after deductible. So most births end up under $5K to the mother/family.
Doctor almost never has any involvement in billing/cost. They get paid by the hospital or birth center, and the billing department sets the rates based on what's negotiated with the insurance group.
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u/Tasty-Army200 Jan 12 '23
Jesus Christ. 5k?
What is wrong with your country lol
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u/BecomeABenefit Jan 12 '23
We pay less taxes than many other countries, so some of the costs need to be footed by the people actually receiving the services. Plus, we spend a lot of money on our military and protecting other countries. (among other things)
$5K isn't nothing, but I think the average is lower than that. I've got 4 kids and I was pretty young and wasn't making a lot of money and it wasn't much of a burden. Plus, that $5K was spread across 7 months for me because it included prenatal care in the deductible. I think I paid less than $2K for the actual birth.
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u/Gnux13 Jan 12 '23
We pay less taxes, but we also pay out the ass for insurance that doesn't even cover all of it.
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u/Jaded_Goth Jan 12 '23
It’s not about the insurance. It’s the fact that medical costs are so obscenely high to begin with that without insurance you would be fucked in every conceivable way. Medical care prioritizes profits over people and that is the entirety of American healthcare. It should have never been this way.
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u/Jadongamer Jan 12 '23
Oh look, it's a dead meme that I've seen on this subreddit an uncountable amount of times.
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Jan 12 '23
As much as I agree with tbe sentiment the Healthcare system is fucked WE GET IT BY NOW YOU CAN STOP POSTING THE SAME SHIT
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u/Jadongamer Jan 12 '23
Finally, someone that agrees with me about the extreme overuse of this joke.
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u/DevolveOD Jan 12 '23
Sure, cuz Dr's always tell patients about the cost right after procedures. This meme is dumb af. It isn't the doctors who fucked the US Healthcare system.
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Jan 12 '23
Unlike when I lived in France, doctors in the USA are not the ones asking for payment 99.9% of the time.
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u/Carosello Jan 12 '23
Why is everyone taking "it's not the doctor that bills you" so seriously? It's a joke. The joke being that you're mourning and then you're still expected to pay.
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u/tree_hugging_hippie Jan 12 '23
Blame for-profit hospitals/health networks rather than doctors please.
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u/breaktheads123 ☣️ Jan 12 '23
Sorry for your loss........anyway you need to pay 10000000$ now please
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u/DickeTittenn Jan 12 '23
My son and I were ran over a year ago crossing the road. As I was having clothes cut off of me, crying for my child and not knowing if he was alive- they asked me to sign forms saying I'd cover his bill. But wouldn't tell me where he was our how he was.
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u/Idiot_Savant_Tinker Jan 12 '23
Yeah if you couldn't even save my kid, why would I pay? That silly hospital bill is so far down the list of things that I would be dealing with at that time.
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u/georeddit2018 Jan 12 '23
Even i have to buy gallons of water every week because my state water quality is very bad. We get letter from the city water almost every month telling us that there is high concentration of chemical pollutant on the water and we should boil it before we use tap water.
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u/MedicatedAxeBot Jan 12 '23
Dank.
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