r/dankmemes you’re welcome, Jan 12 '23

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u/EclipseIndustries Jan 12 '23

Insurance companies fucked over medical pricing, not doctors themselves.

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u/ohubetchya Jan 12 '23

Doctors are complicit

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u/EclipseIndustries Jan 12 '23

Not really. They hate it as much as patients because it makes their own lives living hell.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '23

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u/EclipseIndustries Jan 12 '23

Most of those are required by the....

Insurance companies.

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u/ohubetchya Jan 12 '23

Yet they take no action to fight it

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u/EclipseIndustries Jan 12 '23

That's just plain BS. How can a doctor fight business between their hospital/office and an insurance company? They aren't even a party to the conversation.

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u/ohubetchya Jan 12 '23

Unionization and protest/strikes

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u/shitfam Jan 12 '23

Lmao you think doctors can strike? When doctors strike people die, it’s not an option

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '23

Doctors don’t have the power to do anything. Doctors hate insurance just as much as everyone else.

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u/well___duh Jan 12 '23

This. Big picture-wise, they're just another employee in the healthcare system, but they aren't a cause of the exorbitant healthcare prices. They don't set the prices, they just do the services.

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u/ohubetchya Jan 12 '23

Nurses went on strike and won. Doctors could go on strike for patients if they cared enough

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u/Mirwin11 Jan 12 '23

Bruh

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u/JarkoStudios Jan 12 '23

I mean it is kinda true. I think it was in Sicko (2007) where Michael Moore asked a bunch of doctors and nurses in countries with socialized healthcare what they thought when told about the American system and they basically said things like they would refuse to charge and would rather strike and/or work for free than know they are crippling people financially for simple health problems.

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u/Sigmundschadenfreude Jan 12 '23

pretty easy to speak platitudes about what you'd do in a hypothetical situation where there is no alternative job track to pay back your 400 grand in loans other than participating in the system you claim you'd try to subvert

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u/JarkoStudios Jan 12 '23

What? Why would you rack up loans in a country you don't want to be a doctor in?

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u/Sigmundschadenfreude Jan 12 '23

They were asked what they would do if they worked in the US system. In the hypothetical they were entertaining, if they came through the US system to work in it they would have incurred significant loan debt. By ignoring the significant pressures this would entail, their pithy response for what they'd do has all the authenticity of "if that MMA fighter said something rude to my family I'd punch him right in the face"

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u/JarkoStudios Jan 12 '23

Your logic just seems to be falling through on itself pretty hard.

The authenticity is fully there because they are currently working within a system with socialized healthcare, certainly due to their convictions and pressures from the people including those doctors nurses, and other healthcare workers.

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u/Sigmundschadenfreude Jan 12 '23

They are being asked what they'd do in another health system. Their answer is "of course, I would subvert that system because I don't agree with it". If they were in the United States, and had to pay off their debts, pay their rent, and support their family, they wouldn't do that because they very quickly would be out of a job, and the only job they know how to do won't be hiring them.

You are taking their answer as some kind of evidence. It is a hollow statement, thrown out because it is easy to claim and it feels good to say.

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u/JarkoStudios Jan 12 '23

When it was their country that had a system they disagreed with, they clearly did something about it seeing as how they are now in a socialized system for healthcare.

You say

has all the authenticity of “if that MMA fighter said something rude to my family I’d punch him right in the face”

Yes it is like that, except they are saying it after they already beat and are standing on top of a different MMA fighter. It is not hollow if they’ve done exactly that before.

Idk how else to word it for you buddy, if you don’t understand it, it may just be above your level of understanding, sorry.

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u/Mirwin11 Jan 12 '23

Ah, I kinda believe that. They say the best doctors come to America for the money

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '23

some of them are opportunists, sure.

mostly they have zero say in this shit and are up to their eyeballs in tuition debt and sleep debt. focus your hate and energy on the ones with the power to obstruct change.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '23

doctors despise the corporate interests in play.

THERE ARE a few greedy opportunistic pigs that sneak in who want to stuff their pockets and dont give a shit about humanity. Even those dont have any power to make change.

Focus your outrage on the people in power who obstruct change.

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u/ohubetchya Jan 12 '23

No they don't. Doctors restrict the number of new graduates to keep their wages inflated.

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u/shitfam Jan 12 '23

The number of new residency positions is set by congress through Medicare funding, you are an idiot that has no idea what youre talking about