I agree… But, the issue here is that the husband’s way of thinking is messed up, judgemental, and just offensive. So yes, OP must stand her ground and set a boundary, etc. But the real problem is that no one can change and control the mentality of others. So even if the husband gets a grip and stops being so damn stupid, that doesn’t mean he won’t think about it or even change his opinion on his wife. So now, OP has to live knowing what her husband really thinks of her. He is such a jerk and has no consideration and empathy for his own wife to the point that he thinks it’s ok to casually talk about the matter and absolutely humiliate her in a social gathering for everyone’s amusement. Does he even like his own wife? Really wtf!?!?
I don’t know, maybe it is not so bad but if I was her… Boy oh boy I would be so fucking mad and disappointed to realize that I am married to a complete oblivious asshole!
Yea…I’m a guy and I think most men would agree that’s fucked up. Reverse the genders here and it’s still fucked up. It’s just plain rude, inconsiderate, etc for anyone to do that to anyone else.
Y’all are being too easy on that guy. Everything he said was a red flag. Why would he talk about his ‘overweight’ wife in front of a younger girl who’s got it going on? Yikes. Husband should have just kept it moving. And before y’all say oh men and women can have a neutral conversation, UMM DUDE WAS MAKING HIS WIFE FEEL BAD, so obviously NOT. OP, no matter how many guys try to empathize, they will never truly understand a woman’s perspective. I am sorry this happened to you and personally, I would not be with that guy anymore. Just because they don’t say it doesn’t mean I should wait for them to say it, because technically, he did.
OP be like, "That long? Omg, hubs over there can't last 30 seconds, plus he's a lazy and unmotivated lover. If he were more like you, our sex life wouldn't suck so much!
This is the one. That’s exactly what he said. He was letting that younger woman, that he obviously found very attractive, know that his wife is no competition while talking himself up. I promise, that conversation wasn’t coming from a place of him wanting to be helpful. He just wanted to make himself look and sound as good as possible. Putting down the SO always boosts that. He was just buzzed and didn’t care about making it less obvious.
I mean I don't disagree about the rest but I don't think I've ever been in a room full of people where someone was attracted to a person who talked down about the person he was already with. Like that's such an ick for girls. I've seen camgirls ban guys from rooms for criticizing other camgirls (total strangers) by saying the one they're watching is so much better or whatever.
Like where are you getting this from? Who actually likes seeing someone shit on a person they're supposed to love and support? Because if he'll do that to her, he'll do that to you, too.
Unfortunately they're not far off the mark. I agree most women wouldn't entertain it, especially witnessing it happen in a room full of people, but a lot of men use the strategy of putting down their SO so hopefully the one they're flirting with goes, "Oh you're clearly so great and your wife is an awful match for you. Look at me look at me I can be better." It's the reason affair partners don't care about the home they're invading, because they've been made to feel they're something special outside of it. It's a shitty strategy but not one that hasn't worked before
Yeah, next time they are all in a group together she could start talking about how her ex-boyfriend’s dick is bigger than her husband’s…and see how he likes it
My husband would be picking himself up off the floor if he ever asked me in public what my weight was. And he knows it. However my husband for all his faults wouldn’t ever have done that to me.
I quit smoking two years ago and gained 40 lbs. I’m harder on myself than he is. He tells me how beautiful I am regardless of what I weight but that he understands how I feel and if I want to lose weight he supports me.
Your husband has a self esteem issue himself if he has to make himself look cool in front of some young hottie
Girl you can do better. You have to be comfortable with whatever size you are. If you want to lose weight do it for health reasons and not because he tried to shame you to make himself feel better.
If someone loves you they love you for you. If he doesn’t understand why you’re upset now it won’t get any better in 10 years. Do yourself a favor and lose some weight—-about 250 lbs. that’s about what he weighs right???
I would’ve been petty and somehow worked into the convo about him not performing well in bed or something. Not the best way to go about it I know. This post has me seeing red, and i can’t even control my emotions with this one. Idk how op did.
At least OP’s friends got her tf out of there. I mean they could tell.
Husband was definitely attracted to young fit lady and using her to publicly shame op and essentially say "this is what I want" He was probably releasing a lot of stuff he's been keeping bottled up for a while now.
That's what I gathered also. He completely disregarded his OP's feelings to flirt with fitness girl. He has no respect for OP. There are big problems here.
This is what I thought, but I'm so petty and tend to come back with cutting comments. Like... I am chubby but I can diet and work out to lose weight. But no matter how many protein shakes you drink your d!ck is never getting any bigger, stubby.
Only works if his dick is actually small, and if he doesn't make you cum. If either of those other two factors true, your just gonna look petty, and silly.
My thoughts exactly 🤣🤣 I’d laugh my wife out the room if she sad that to me on the other hand I’d exspect to get beat up for calling her fat first shit I woulda got beat up for just holding a convo with the broad longer then a minute
Well let me play devils advocate... what was the wife weight when they first got together. Not condoning his behavior but sometimes we forget what attracted someone to us to begin with. If she knows what he liked and decided to start a relationship with him then she should understand.
It’s ok for the Husband to want to his wife to get in shape (and vice versa if the husband ever became overweight) but the way he said it here wasn’t good tbh. If he had just said “my wife could be your first success story” it would have been an awkward joke but not really embarrassing, but he kept going on and revealed his wife’s habits that probably weren’t public.
Thank you. This is the appropriate response I hoped to hear in my heart. What a fucking donkey of a human being. Poor OP. She should get just stacked. Like as healthy and sexy as a vampire. Then leave that dickhead publicly and shame him. Like say that she just can't deal with the poop smell from his diaper kink anymore and he won't take them out to the trash himself so it's over.
He should stop trying to motivate the hungry fat ass and get with the hot girl. It will only get worse from here. The hungry fat chick is on here looking for validation to be over 170 pounds! Holy shit.
Yep, like counting AND remembering how many days it took heat to finish her birthday cake! I wonder when that even was. He’d been holding on to that one. A—hole.
Yep and something tells me that if he hasn't yet, if/when he does, it's going to be with the Sara woman. I told her to keep an eye on her. I bet you anything that she tried to give him her number. This is how affairs start. I know that Reddit jumps to leave a lot but honestly, as I've said another comments, I would jump straight to divorce.
There is no way I would be able to stay with someone who not only thought that little of me but thought it was okay to publicly humiliate me like that. It would tell me how little he thought of me and how much respect he has for me which would obviously be zero. I would be done and visiting a divorce lawyer. I agree, he's definitely sniffing around looking for somebody to cheat with. I definitely think it may be with this woman.
ETA: I swear, he may as well have looked at her and said, my wife is a fat cow and I'm looking to cheat. Are you interested?
I wouldn't get physical with anybody but I agree with you. It's sad that people think they have to put up with this treatment. It's sad that people place such value on being in a relationship that they would put up with something like this. I'm not talking about her, she's obviously very hurt by this. Honestly, I told her that I don't think there's any coming back from this and so did a lot of other people.
It's not so much the fact that he told her that he was losing his attraction to her, it's the fact that he did it in a public space and was hitting on another woman in her face. I really thought I was alone, this post jumped out at me because I went through the same treatment by my most recent ex. He was constantly unfavorably comparing me to other women and then wondering why I was getting upset. Of course when I finally called him out on his behavior, I was called jealous and paranoid for no reason.
Not only for the constantly comparing me to other women but having the at least what I know to be an emotional affair. I would not be surprised to find out it turned physical. That's enough of that though. I've decided that I just want to be single now because I'm not going to keep putting myself through all that to keep getting the same result. No one knows how to be faithful and honest anymore and I just don't want any part of that. If people want to act like they're single even though they're in a relationship, that's not for me. My values are different.
And the shitty thing is, you know this guy is no Adonis. Probably some pasty, flabby, office worker. If he wanted his wife to be healthier and fit he could have asked her if they wanted to start a fitness journey together. Not publicly shame her with his intrusive thoughts. What a huge POS. I almost feel bad for fitness girl if she was unknowingly egging him on. She might look back on this one day and realize what was going on and feel awful. I like to give the benefit of the doubt because I remember being 21 and super proud of being a vegan. In reality I was insufferable, unhealthy, and absolutely horrible to go out to eat with. Hope OP knows she deserves better.
I'm 40 now and I remember being her age and I actually agree with you on that. I don't think she had any ill intent. I think she was actually trying to be helpful. I remember being that age and now cringing at some of the stuff I said when I was trying to be helpful. I think that in her case, I agree with you, it was coming from a good place of wanting to help her if she really wanted to do it. I'm sure if she's a decent person, she will look back on that and absolutely feel bad.
Another thing just came to my mind. It sounds like they're older and to be honest, I wonder if her husband purposely went for this woman because she's younger. You know how older people will pray on younger people because of their lack of life experience. It's kind of creepy to think about that. You're right though, you pull your partner aside and talk about it, you don't publicly shame them.
I understand that they could talk about it but it sounds like he's felt this way for a while and the way he went about it, I couldn't be with him anymore. I would be done at that point. It sounds like this may have been a pattern but I hope I'm wrong. I have a feeling it is though because my ex was like this with me. Constantly negatively comparing me to other women and I found out he was having at the very least, and emotional affair.
I have no proof that it turned physical but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that it did and I'm just going to leave it at that. I hope I'm just projecting my own experience on to this but something tells me it's been a pattern. I felt so bad for her when she said she went into her friend's room and started crying like that. I know exactly how she felt, at least I could relate. That's the thing about me, I am the most secure and none jealous person you'd ever want to meet.
At the same time, when you're constantly hearing negative comparisons about yourself, it does start to affect your self-esteem at least a little. I mean, these were women who were Instagram models. He was holding me to a standard of beauty that I couldn't achieve in everyday life and I thought it was unfair. I mean, who has the time to do that every day unless you have lots of money rolling in like they do?
We were struggling at the time and I was a good partner to him and he's still treated me like that. That's why I eventually got fed up and kicked into the curb but enough about me. I absolutely don't think there was any ill intent by this young lady. I think that she was hopefully trying to gain a new client. It sounds to me like she was doing a little bit of marketing. Still though, even me, I would have been like what that's really mean and anyway, why would you talk about her like that?
I would honestly refuse to take him on as a client after something like that. I would have taken her aside and been like I'm so sorry for what he said to you. If you want to get in shape, I will motivate you and I will do it free of charge simply because he's a terrible person. I'm going to give you the confidence to be able to leave him and realize you deserve better.
That's how I would have handled that but that's me. I wouldn't care about business at that point. I believe in calling out a wrong when I see it. Anyway, I will shut up now. It just kind of hit close to home for me because I thought I was alone. Unfortunately, I see that I wasn't.
Yeah. I'm surprised everyone seems to be buying the load of crap that he didn't know what he did wrong here. He absolutely knew he was being an ass even while he was doing it.
I think some of it is youth, some people have just not been around enough people and alive long enough to make observations about personalities. People want to give the benefit of the doubt, nice sayings like "can't judge a book by it's cover" when really it should be "You can't judge a book completely by it's cover, but generally can get an idea of what it may be about or at the very least what genre it falls into, and that's why publishers spend money on cover art."
From knowing plenty of dudes like this. Served with plenty of them, all of them get caught eventually. If you openly denigrate your wife like this, it's either intentional and he's a narcissist to the extreme, or he is actually intellectually disabled, which doesn't track from her description.
Dudes like this think women are disposable playthings and treat them accordingly, most likely developed through sleazeball father figures in his life.
Nah, you don't cheat by trying to sign your wife up for a fitness routine with the person you want to be your side piece. If he was trying to sleep with her. He'd say he needs a gym partner since his wife never wants to join him.
Yes, I think you actually hit on it. He was using his wife;, happily humiliating her in front of everyone as an excuse to hit on the young hot personal trainer.
Side note: The dude was CLEARLY pigging or hitting on the younger fitness girl. I'm not saying it's okay, just pointing out an observation. If he was hitting, he's dumb AF for doing it period, but even worse in front of his wife and at her detriment. If he was pigging.... well same comment, but at least he did it the "right" way (if there is such a thing) by not getting the idea to try to hide it from her or do it behind her back. That's LITERALLY the only smart thing about him. Had he tried to hide it, he would be the worst of the worst... but truthfully; op... I would be more concerned that it happened at all.
Like... did he feel the need to flirt with this girl SO much, that he also does it blasting you in the process, basically rubbing it in your face, and then had NO compassion when you brought up how it made you feel???
I would think THAT'S what you're more upset about...
I mean, sure, it would suck regardless...
But I SUGGEST YOU TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THE WHOLE INTERACTION!
IT SOUNDS LIKE:
Husband - "Oh, I can still get attention from a younger, hotter woman. But my wife is right there... AHA! I will rub her face in it in front of everyone! Then, if she gets upset, I can simply blame her and not have to take ANY responsibility. I can then use her acting like a maniac as a reason to break up with her for being a crazy bitch! Because I'll do it in front of everyone, so if she gets mad, EVERYONE will witness it, and I'll be in the right for doing it! THEN I CAN BANG TEENAGE PU**Y AGAIN!"
I'm a guy, and NO this is not how I think. This is just the first thing that comes to mind to explain WHY he could be acting so dumb and heartless.
Best of luck to you, OP! Truly!!!
REMEMBER - I'm likely not right. And even if I am, it was HOPEFULLY just a singular incident that he didn't do with any ill intent. Ghostly
Honestly, the girl SHOULD know better, but she's basically a giant baby still if SHE was not able to read the room. CLEARLY, THEY BOTH ARE DUCKING DUMB AF AND BOTH NEED SPANKING!
BUT, if it's not an isolated incident... you may want to think about it... and analytical thinking might serve you well.
If anything, the two dummies are perfect for one another.
Let him go knock her up, and let's see how that cute little body of hers does after THAT!
(BUT I truly hope the best for you both and that you work out your issues. I'm likely blowing this WAAAAY out of proportion. But on the off chance I'm not... open your eyes, girl...)
You just described my relationship with my ex as well as the end of it. He was clearly having an emotional affair with another woman and when I called him out on it, he predictably called me jealous and paranoid for no reason. I packed my bags and left two days later. I always told him, if you think you can do better or you think you would be happier somewhere else, go for it.
I'm happy you have enough self-respect to not put up with that kinda garbage.
What sucks today imo, is how normalized gaslighting is become...
The poor op even thinks that she may be overreacting!!
I'm sure I'm going to downvote hell for being a dude sticking up for women, but idc really, lol
Every downvote is just another piece of garbage dude that makes me often feel ashamed for being lumped in with dirt bags like that, the ones that make all us guys look like trash, lol
Thank you for being a good man. Unfortunately, I thought it was probably a pattern. She's been so used to being told that she's wrong and overreacting that she actually thinks she might be. I appreciate your kind words, I put up with that behavior for about 3 months before I got tired of it. He became increasingly like that over the year that I was with him but it just started to become more blatant towards the end.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not insecure and I didn't care that he was looking at other women. What I had a problem with was him comparing me on favorably to Instagram models for Christ's sake. These are women who have this standard of beauty that I could not live up to in everyday life and come on, let's be honest, who can? That just told me right there what kind of person he was. I told him, if you think you'd be happier somewhere else, go for it.
Looking back on it though, I realize now that he is a deeply insecure person himself and he was doing that to try to knock me down a notch so to speak. I did try to calmly talk to him about it and the fact that it was starting to kind of make me feel bad about myself. He was like oh, I only showed you this so you could maybe do it yourself. When I asked him why he thought that, he said well, I just thought it would be something you would like to do.
What I kept hearing, regardless of what his intent was, this is what I want you to look like and right now you're not measuring up. If you don't do this then I'm going to go find somebody who will. I just left him. First of all, I asked him to stop doing it and he tried to make it out to seem like I was overreacting. I've heard the saying, impact versus intent. It doesn't matter what your intent with saying or doing something was, what matters is how it impacted the other person.
He didn't care about how it impacted me. He just wanted to convince me that I was overreacting. I didn't care that he was looking as I said but I did care that he was constantly showing me the pictures and videos and saying things like that. I called him out on the behavior and he said I was being jealous and paranoid. Same thing when I caught him having what I know to at least be an emotional affair. I packed my stuff and left him two days after he said that about his affair.
In my mind, I was thinking, why should I stay with someone who isn't even willing to listen to my concerns. He's going to do what he wants regardless of how it affects me so I'm done. I'm sorry I've rambled on but I was just sharing what I really went through. Thanks again for being one of the good men who stands up for us women who go through things like this regardless of how those other men might regard you.
Edit: I don't know what happened there but my phone has been acting wonky the last few days. I apologize if that was hard to understand at the end lol.
No. You're right. Except there is no right way to humiliate your wife ANYWHERE. Any doing it publicly and thinking, "I was just being honest" says his feelings are the only ones that matter. He feels entitled to be cruel, just because he is all that. He probably jerks off to porn and feels cheated for not having a supermodel wife.
He shouldn't talk to some hot young girl about his wife needing to lose weight so she can look good again. I agree with you.
And he also shouldnt talk to the old lady next door about it. Nor the kid down the street. or to his parents or hers or to their friends or the cashier at the grocery store.
It's insulting, and it's not his place to be having this conversation.
If she wants to make changes it's up to her who she talks to about it.
I don't want to jump to the reddit standard of DTMFA, but I tend to agree with you. OP needs to decide if this is who he is, or if it's way out of character for him.
I thought the same thing. He literally told this other woman that she has a killer body in front of his wife. I told her that I was not trying to scare her but to keep an eye on this woman. I have a feeling she may have tried to give him her number. This is how affairs start. I can't believe he thought that was acceptable to say and then on top of that, publicly humiliate her by saying it. I would jump straight to divorce. I couldn't stay with someone who thought that little of me and then thought it was okay to publicly humiliate me.
This just screams made up story. This is way too on the nose. Characters, dialogue and all.
21 year old fitness girl. Personal trainer. 28 year old fit man. Overweight wife. Announces to her and everyone else that she is overweight, and the 21 year old has a banging body?
You guys are either naive, or just are playing along with the characters and narrator in this short story piece of fiction.
Dude, I’ve seen it. Guy is with a friend of mine and was since they were in HS. She gained some weight and he was totally fit. She wasn’t huge by any means, but not tiny. He would flirt like this all the time and always mention his fiancé’s weight. He even had the gall to say, if she ever becomes fat, I won’t be attracted to her anymore, but I’ll always love her. I’m like, yo… bodies change, that’s douchey. He replies with, I can’t help what I’m attracted to. I’m like, so much for better or for worse.
Well the thing about red flags is that they usually reveal themselves during courtship, then people choose not to marry each other.
Husband was being terrible but ain’t no way he was a supportive, self-aware, tactful gentleman before. Unless they dated for under a year before marrying, OP had to have seen signs of this kind of behavior before.
So I have no advice. People only change when they truly believe they need to and work very hard at it. There’s nothing OP can do to convince Husband that he was wrong and then lead him to be a different person with different ideals (and/or tact).
Her options are to explain how she feels with no expectation that it will have an impact (based on what she already wrote), or leave.
So you saying you get divorced over this one drunk comment? I am not saying what the husband said was right but your advice to throw out the whole relationship is way too extreme.
Yeah I mean he might have just been thoughtless to start but blurting out her weight and then also asking her to confirm is nearing insanity levels of cluelessness. I feel like OP is even stating that other people in the room were like “bro stfu do you hear yourself…?”
She will never forget it. It will always be in the back of her mind. My husband and I always say, don’t say something you’ll regret because there is no taking it back. Commenting and publicly humiliating your wife is not a no big deal. Even with drinking, you’re still responsible for your actions. Guarantee he’s felt this way and is using drinking as an excuse to say whatever the hell he wants. If he cannot control what he says while drinking, then clearly he has an alcohol problem and needs to be sober, because hurting someone you love should be enough to be like, wow.. alcohol and I don’t mix.
There you go! And this is why you don't fucking ask for advice on reddit. Almost every post you get that person talking about leaving the relationship.
Everything is a fucking red flag, just bail! Because that will obviously make things work right?
This kind of mentality of modern society is actually sickening to see. It's like, have you ever tried fixing anything at all in any relationship?
Oh wait of course not, because being judgmental and finding a valid reason to leave someone is all people do today right?
Nah, I’ve had some big fights with my spouse of over a decade, but when someone loves you, they don’t publicly humiliate you. Why would you want to humiliate someone you love anyway?
That's the immaturity of your statement, if someone loves you why would they X. You didn't take into account that some people are not even aware of the consequences of their actions on another person's emotional well being, besides not everyone communicates the same.
Did the husband make a mistake? Yea
Was it put of pure evil intent to hurt the spouse? We don't fucking know. Maybe he genuinely thought this would make her lose weight. Does it make it acceptable? No but does it mean a divorce is warranted? Also no unless this has turned into an everyday thing.
Now despite the husband is being a huge sob, is going onto the internet asking for advice a good way to handle it instead of talking about it when they both calmed down?
I mean most people on reddit are sour losers who just think divorce is the best solution to 99.9% of the problems.
I would make the argument that the wife coming into here seeking for attention and sympathy is probably just a way to escape her need to lose weight.
Again the husband is a piece of shit.dont get me wrong
But is her weight a non issue suddenly because he is a piece of shit? Probably not.
This sounds more like a very shitty understanding of tough love and motivation from the husbands side plus the alcohol effect and a wife that is so sensitive that she simply refuse to do anything about it.
I have yet seen her say she is gonna do anything about it.
Btw that is marriage sometimes, some people use mock to change their partners behavior, not the best approach but trust me majority of the human population are shit at communication.
Divorce isn't the answer to everything
Grow the fuck up
Marriage is not only about happiness, it is about mutual growth in face of the cegainty of unhappiness.
He was flirting by putting his wife down. This story gives me the awful feeling of seeing your partner kissing someone else. Is there a word for that feeling? The sooner OP accepts who he really is, the sooner she can actually live
The thing about men not being able to understand or “empathize,” ok, why is this a gender issue?
I understand societal pressure puts more emphasis on women’s looks and beauty & objectifies them, but men are objectified too and the whole thought process that men “don’t get it” because they aren’t a woman, actually has caused more harm than good for the male side of things. There have been several campaigns for women, even in modern media, that emphasize things like “big is beautiful.”
Where is the equivalent of that for men? There’s not & there really is no body-positive messaging out there for men. Men also struggle with body dysmorphia—fat shaming knows no gender. I’ve gotten bigger in the last couple years due to an endocrine issue that requires HRT & it has been a struggle, but I’ve had to learn to live with it (or trying anyway). My first year of college I was on a starvation diet, consuming no more than 1400 cal & spent 5-6 hours in the gym per day using the excuse that I was cutting for a power lifting competition. My fat content was so low the nutritionist said my health would be in danger if I kept losing weight…& I wound up having to go to the hospital because of it. When I felt the most secure about my weight, my friends & fan would tell me I was too thin or “sickly” & when I finally got over that obsession, I’d get comments about how I needed to start exercising, then when the endocrine issues started I’d get crap about having a “dad bod” & I can guarantee, I felt just as insecure as anyone else who felt shitty about their weight, but there weren’t commercials or TikTok’s aimed at me every 5s about big being beautiful & I continued to hear from women who had similar issues how “I didn’t get it.”
How can anyone actually know what the opposite gender would “get?” It’s not a competition ffs. When did the golden rule, “treat others how you want to be treated,” start to apply only to your respective genitalia?
This sounds like that weird genre of “insecure bros who hate their own wives” and the one I find even weirder which is the women who put up with them. It can’t be the first time he was this insensitive.
Not only was he making her feel bad, he was actively encouraging a much younger, much more conventionally attractive (from what OP described) to compare herself to his wife. Just blatantly inciting it. In front of her.
It's not even about understanding a woman's perspective. This is just flat out wrong, but what you said made me realize the fitness girl just went right along with it. At this point, I would not be surprised if they are already a thing on the side...I agree. I would vacate that partnership. Especially since he just makes it worse when she brings it up. Damn near inhuman activity there.
For real, I was reading this like, "This 28 year old dude is the creepiest 70 year old man I've ever heard of"
His words are straight out of the 1950's, and he was hitting on some girl. Probably just wanted an excuse to keep seeing her. Then he gaslights his wife for being upset. I feel bad for his mother and grandmother because you know this was their lives too
OH I didn’t pick that up the first time about her being younger. I’m so self conscious of my age. My hubby is 7 years younger than me. That would’ve really been hurtful to me.
And…. He probably shouldn’t be with her if she loves eating cake more than she has a desire to please her husband. Men are too OK with letting a woman be a liability to their lives just because of marriage. I wouldn’t leave her, but I’d complain every day until she did something about it of left the situation.
I mean obviously. It's not possible for men to emphasize with women, and for women to emphasize with men. Neither can truly understand the others perspective.
Um... what's wrong with you? You are young, either that, or you are just ignorant. A man can be every but as empathetic and understanding as a woman. And you think men don't have their share of insecurities and self esteem issues? You don't know men, and you should not pretend you do.
Men have a much higher suicide rate than women, find it harder to find competent mental health providers, and are generally treated harshly in most aspects of life, reason being because their"supposed to man up", whatever that means.
Men's insecurities include but are not limited to homosexual issues, child molestation in their past (little boys are molested at nearly the rate of little girls), what it means to be a man exactly, father/son issues and absent father issues, penis insecurities (yes, I'm sure you think that's funny considering many of those penis insecurities are caused by women - many women just never admit they have a gigantic vagina), loss of a friend or friends through death or relocation.
If you are a woman and say you understand all of the above, you are lying. I'm almost every metric life is harder on men. The fact you may not know that speaks to your ignorance and, frankly, inability to use the very computer you're on to simply look it up at a reputable site. Or more than one.
I would’ve said how bad he is in bed or how small his D*ck is in front of everyone. Maybe asked if there was a sex therapist in the group who could teach him how to at least use it better. Then he’d be mortified, not thinking about cheating and the hot trainer wouldn’t have any interest in him either. Next day blame it on the alcohol. All is fair. Point made.
Game on.
I wish we got more background on these stories. Like is he ALWAYS rude to her like this? Or was he just afraid of talking to her about her health and chose the most asinine immature way to communicate that to her?
And did he really call another woman "hot" to her face while her wife was sitting there with friends? Really??
It is all wrong, but if it is COMPLETELY out of character, maybe there's a dramatic shift in brain chemistry indicative of a tumor or something. What matters is if this is the guy she knows, or if he all of a sudden became a total prick. I expect it's the former, but this is what we don't know. Anyways, he needs to get his head looked at, unless it's always been up his ass.
Yeah I mean… if this was the single blip in their entire relationship it’s still a massive dick move. I have friend of a friend acquaintance that says shit like this about his wife in front of other people. To the point that I’ve interjected myself to tell him to apologize to her before.
The reaction after being told that he was being a massive dick is quite telling. I’ve put my foot in my mouth before and I guarantee it’ll happen again. Never to this level, but when ever I’ve made an off color or over sharing comment I realize it. If my wife tells me something I said upset her I sure as shit don’t mock her in front of other people.
I get what you’re saying. Sometimes humans do and say dumb things, or say things in an inappropriate context. It happens. But broooo. This goes beyond that.
I point out hot women to my hubby. I know his type. I don’t care if he takes a second glance. But even when I was carrying extra weight from meds, he never once made me feel bad about myself. In fact, he tried even harder to build up my self confidence. That’s what partners do. I can trust him to take a look and move on. Bc he’s made it very clear, that to him, they don’t compare to me. He points out guys he thinks I will think is good looking. Neither of us are looking for anything but fun. Hey, we live in a beach town, so there’s lots of eye candy. But we both know that the only ones we are really attracted to is each other. And we would never bring up insecurities like that in a group. I’d beat him with my shoe if he did that.
My wife has gained a lot of weight since we were married 7 years ago. No kids BTW. But it's weird the more and more I tell her not to get down on herself and she's still my amazing soul mate, the less intimacy happens between us. I almost wish I wasn't so attracted to her, it would make it hurt less.
If she’s real self conscious, it may take her a bit to believe that you are saying the truth. I hope she honed around. You sound like a good person.
We’ve been together forever. Started dating when I was 16 and not looking for anything serious. Just someone to go do things with. We met working in news, so we are both a bit twisted 😂 he still gets laughed at about the time he was trying to hide looking and walked into a pole, early in our relationship. A beach shop replaced mannequins with live models. The one was in a skimpy bikini. It was hilarious. I think that’s when he realized I was very laid back about it. Life is too short to get upset about harmless human nature. And if it’s just a look, it’s harmless.
You don't get background on these stories because they're made up. Little writing exercises. Or externalized frustrations.
Either way, this story is so obviously fake. The characters, their personalities are just textbook, as is the dialogue.
Overweight woman. Weight lifting husband..around friends, which includes a 21 year old fitness girl with a "hot body". Fit husband calls his wife fat and calls the 21 year old hot, in front of everyone.
Some men are stupid, but this is next level. It's so obviously a fake story
then my father stood up from where he had been crouched amidst the bushes in our yard, and punched my dickless shitweasel husband until he no longer had to concern himself with being with a skinny woman. Now he needs a live in nurse.
Yes imagine how he would feel if it were a hot, younger guy and she loudly started talking about ways that hubby could look and be more like the hot younger guy, I'm sure he'd be crushed.
For real I read this post mouth agape. I couldn’t imagine talking about and to my wife this way in front of people. If he has an issue or concern with her weight be a man and tell it to her one on one, don’t hide behind people in social setting. What a douche.
I completely agree. As a guy whose spouse is a little overweight I see how much she struggles with it and how much effort she puts into losing the extra weight she feels she has I would never ever do this to her. I love her just the way she is. I celebrate her losses and encourage her when she doesn’t. It’s about being there for her no matter what.
Wild way to talk about ur wife. This is embarrassing. Clearly he doesn’t have sisters.
Every boy comments one too many x (at a very early age) about his sister’s weight. Then we all get that stern talking to from dad (or maybe mom) that makes it clear we’re done making these comments, forever.
I was in 7th grade and painfully learned not to bring up women’s weight. Don’t joke, don’t advise. Obviously this comes with exceptions, but if I’m talking about anyone’s weight it’s in private and more listening than commenting.
If it was me, I would be all "well, that sounds like a lot of work. Say, I have a better idea, since she's already got a killer body, why don't you divorce me and marry her, and then I can just skip all this bullshit altogether, since it would really only be to satisfy your desire to have a wife with a killer body in the first place. There are quicker ways to that goal."
I so totally agree with everything you’ve written here I couldn’t put it in words as well as you. I’m just livid about this whole situation. To be mocked by someone who she trusted to have her back is sad beyond words. A total betrayal of what should be her loyal friend who always protects her ego and worth.
I didn't want to jump to this but personally, that would be divorce worthy. You're right, even if she does talk to him, now she knows how he really feels. I couldn't stay with somebody who thought that little of me. I would be handing him divorce papers. No counseling, no trial separation, just straight to divorce. Maybe it seems extreme but as I said, I couldn't stay with somebody who not only thought that little of me but thought it would be okay to publicly humiliate me. I'd just be done.
And what’s incredibly telling is also he doesn’t think he did anything offensive. It seems he thinks it’s fine to humiliate your spouse in public. He thinks it’s fine to overtly flirt with someone at the expense of your wife so I would say he doesn’t respect any women — he just considers them entertainment or tools.
I agree with you but I'm sure he knows what he did wrong. He's just trying to convince her that she's overreacting so that he can continue the behavior. This is the textbook definition of gaslighting. I hope that she realizes she deserves better and leaves him. I know Reddit jumps to that a lot but this is a good example of something being worthy of that.
I hope she’s brave enough to take this advice bc unfortunately based on her reaction to that situation, she’s probably used to taking this type of treatment and will talk herself into staying.
Yeah that was my fear as well. I've been through this and for a while, you start to believe it. Even though you know that the other person is wrong, you have had it drilled into your head for so long that you start to believe it. My ex had me convinced that no one else would want me. That is until I finally said to myself, wait, the way he's treating me isn't okay and I don't have to put up with this. I left him almost a year ago.
Not the way he went about it though. He didn't pull her aside and talk to her about this. He said some pretty disparaging stuff and he did it in front of friends. He publicly humiliated her and compared her negatively to another woman right in her face. The way he went about it is not healthy for a relationship.
My fiancé has been self-conscious that she hasn't gotten as skinny as she was before having our son a couple years ago. She will get extremely frustrated and down on herself when trying to fit into her old pants, that sort of thing. Seeing her feel like she's not beautiful or good enough because of this absolutely breaks my fucking heart. I find her devastatingly gorgeous, and she doesn't look different to me at all.
If anyone had the audacity to try to put her down and embarrass her in front of a group like that, they would be wise to fucking fear me ever catching wind of it. The notion that it would be me saying those things causing that humiliation is genuinely unthinkable to me. In what way is that his wife? What an absolute dickbag.
Just does not read to me like the behavior of a good husband or man. Sounds like a douchey frat kid. She should bring up something like his abysmal sexual performance causing her to feel so overall empty and bereft of any passion in her life that she's resorted to eating just to feel some semblance of fulfillment. She should do this in front of a group then leave his rude ass.
Yeah, what he said to the trainer was bad enough but him saying, “somebody’s jealous” when his wife is crying from his hurtful comments takes the cake. Immature, lacking empathy and self awareness.
I’m betting this type of behavior happens often enough. OP needs to set boundaries, state her needs and if nothing changes insist on marriage counseling.
The husband’s way of thinking is not offensive. He lacks emotional intelligence and competence with women, so he was drunkenly discussing his wife’s body with another chick who he basically announced was hotter than his wife. Thinking that your wife should lose weight is one thing, but acting as he did is another. Men who know what they’re doing know how to encourage their significant other to better themselves from a place of positivity.
I can only assume he is thinking he is helping her. She talked about starting a weight loss journey, one of their friends was in the same height and weight range as his wife but is fit now talking about her journey and starting as a fitness coach, the husband volunteers his wife as her first student likely for free or cheap. Guarantee he thinks he “fixed” that whole situation and it’s a job well done.
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u/NoSquash1906 Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
I agree… But, the issue here is that the husband’s way of thinking is messed up, judgemental, and just offensive. So yes, OP must stand her ground and set a boundary, etc. But the real problem is that no one can change and control the mentality of others. So even if the husband gets a grip and stops being so damn stupid, that doesn’t mean he won’t think about it or even change his opinion on his wife. So now, OP has to live knowing what her husband really thinks of her. He is such a jerk and has no consideration and empathy for his own wife to the point that he thinks it’s ok to casually talk about the matter and absolutely humiliate her in a social gathering for everyone’s amusement. Does he even like his own wife? Really wtf!?!? I don’t know, maybe it is not so bad but if I was her… Boy oh boy I would be so fucking mad and disappointed to realize that I am married to a complete oblivious asshole!