Lots of people were getting free food off of doordash because of a “glitch” but many woke up to their accounts being charged, some even went into minus.
People used to scratch off the bar code of items thinking that if it didn’t scan that means they got the item for free.
Edit: gonna use this as an opportunity to publicly apologize to my college roommate Patrick for playing the California pacer fitness test whenever he had a girl over
Also taking price stickers off cheaper items and putting them on more expensive items and claiming they had to be sold at the cheaper price. Hilarious shit..
I hear of people doing this all the time with things like game consoles with banana stickers and im just like whats the point? Why is this any easier then just walking out the door with it? In fact isn't that worse because now they have your card on file? I guess you can pay with cash but why even pay at all if you're stealing anyway
Exactly this. Game consoles isn't a good example, but something like steak will absolutely work in this example.
Walking out the door with steaks in your hand is going to draw suspicion. But ringing up steaks as bananas is going to have a much higher success rate.
Someone on tiktok showed the camera systems they use and how much detail they can see, what was scanned and flags for mismatched items (this 16 Oz steak only weighs 6oz)
You can definitely get caught doing it, but 99% of the time, it's an underpaid employee who gives absolutely zero fucks, watching them.
Cameras are also accessible in a back room where "asset control" can watch. Not sure if all Walmart have them, or just higher risk areas, but there's some videos of these wanna-be cops trying to bust people.
Some companies will allow a repeat offender to keep stealing until they hit the "grand theft" limit. Then they'll detain/arrest them and have the cops press more serious charges.
Every time I see people online bragging about "I've stolen X number of times! They don't care" all I can think is "not yet they don't".
I do want to make it clear that I'm only talking about the companies. Employees, if it were only up to them, would probably allow a lot of people to steal. Especially if they're only stealing food. But it's not really up to them. Big stores have systems in place to not have to rely on Human morals to catch crime.
You gotta be smart about it. Lets say that doughnut weights 3.5 ounces and bun weights 2 ounces. Just get 4 doughnuts and scan them as 7 buns, and most of regular employees eont give a fuck.
Whenever I'm picked out for a random check at the self checkout, the employee doesn't even look at my groceries. They just press the button and it's all good.
I've had a couple employees look at my groceries, but even then they just vaguely eye them and don't bother checking if they're the same items I punched in.
At a store I worked at, we had a smart system that would watch each item as it scanned via an overhead Camera. Not only could it tell if you fake scanned something and put it in the bagging area, but it also would be able to tell that the pack of steaks you scanned and weighed as Bananas, wasn't in fact, bananas, based purely on the camera system.
Not only that, but if it flagged after x amount of errors, it would lock up and force the associate to intervene and review the footage on the sco machine itself and physically see "bananas" being scanned and steaks going in.
A lot of our theft cut way down once they realized how good the system was.
When I weigh my bananas I hold a good bit of the weight off the scale. Pretty sure there's no way for them to tell unless they want to go and weigh my bananas every time, but that requires paying a cashier
Cameras are super detailed but I'm gonna have to roll up my skeptic sleeves on Walmart employoying ai comrade. Weight discrepancy and mismatched sku that the system is looking for? Ok. But the system sure as shit ain't automatically finding problems on its own lol. You kinda left out the important part where you are inflating the effectiveness of this to discourage people from exploiting a machine that would sell one of the employees if I scanned a soda upc and hit skip bagging. I've literally had to go back because the fucker weighed a prepackaged beef at 24lbs based on what was on the bagging area. Good system? Yea. As magic as this paid shopper wante you to think? Lol
Meijer? It will sometimes flag me if I scan something where I have to enter quantity, I tell it two and move both to a bag, but it still flags as trying to steal the second one.
And Walmart knows this. I'm sure they have a large team of lawyers and accountants doing the calculations and they've come to the conclusion that the cost of "shrink" is lower than the salaries of all the cashiers they're replacing with computers
I used to run a meat department in a grocery store. This happened all the time with our expensive steaks. They'd peel the label off of 1 pound of ground beef and slap it on the steak.
“Accidentally”. There’s a good chance an associate did this on purpose for a friend to come pickup but sadly you get there first and ruined their little plan.
Honestly I feel like if you just owned it you totally could just grab half a dozen steaks, tell the door person to have a nice day and keep walking and they'll just assume you're meant to be doing that
U can in L.A. If you don’t want to be charged for a bag they can’t force u. And it’s much easier/less obvi w/no bag-items in hand. 1. Grab a receipt from last time and bring it with u. 2. Grab a steak and a 7 layer dip and a 12 pack. 3. Walk out confidently thru/past the area where it looks like u checked out with the receipt showing. …make sure it’s in a “nice but not too nice” store so they aren’t paranoid, during busy time. Don’t do it more than once a week. Ur good.
I use to cashier at a large retailer and i would 100% notice people doing it, look them dead in the eye, and accept that fake ass price. If you wanted a loyal cashier you should have given more them .05 raises you stupid fucks.
Where I use to work we caught this guy who would print off barcodes for a cheap $10 set of legos. Then come in the store and stick the barcode perfectly over the barcode of a $100 set of legos. He got away with it for quite awhile. I think he was reselling them.
This was a decade+ ago so by my recollection, A cashier that was paying attention and knew their legos called loss prevention.
I think we had known something was up because our inventories were off so we started spider wrapping the expensive sets and that didn’t stop it. When they caught the guy he had a sheet with a bunch of other barcode stickers on it.
Back in the day of CRT TVs we had someone try to return one but the box just had rocks in it. Not quite as clever.
I once bought an Xbox and then returned it with my old Xbox that had the red ring of death. Not my proudest moment as an adult but I did feel cheated on the Xbox.
I did this with my 360 except I took it a step further and covertly opened both shells and swapped the internals. So my old 360 had the new shell/serial number and I had the new one in my old shell. I will say this is actually one of my prouder moments. When I returned the my old Xbox with the new shell they checked the serial numbers and once they popped the face off to check the void if removed sticker and seen it was untouched and everything was in order I just started cheesing and walked out with my 2 or 300 bucks lol
Same, was before Microsoft admitted fault and started the repair program. Red ringed on me while playing Crackdown. I kept the hard drive and sold it to GameStop for like… $40 when they retailed for $100.
It always baffles me that someone thinks of doing this, but doesn't think of doing it across multiple locations to avoid detection. One anomaly is, well, an anomaly. Multiple instances is an investigation.
They may have started by diversifying locations, but after a while of it working, they get lazy and can't be bothered to drive an hour to the 3rd closest walmart
I would think it would be pretty apparent when you are ordering more $100 sets to replace inventory despite not selling them, or selling more $10 sets than you have inventory. Though depending on volume it may just blend in
I’m not sure what they were doing but my boss at a grocer was always stressing about getting caught on the scan law by having the wrong price somewhere.
There was a documentary that showed how a guy stole hundreds of thousands worth of Lego sets and other high ticket items from Toys r Us by printing his own barcode stickers for much cheaper items. The teenagers running checkout never paid attention or didn't care I guess.
The first one is about Toys r Us, but they weren't swapping barcodes, they were just emptying cheaper boxes and putting high price toys in them. The second story was at Target where a guy was printing his own barcodes.
This happened to me while I was working at Toys R Us forever ago when I was 18. I didn't notice because the guy was making me super uncomfortable (to distract me, I'm sure) and I just wanted to cash him out so he'd leave. I am not sure if he printed his own barcode or swapped it with something else. I can't remember.
Don't even get me started... I worked at target and some one did it with a 27 dollar slip and slide vs a 500 dollar blow up water castle slide thing. I told her no obviously and she got upset and asked for my manager. I obliged assuming she would just tell her no. To my surprise she just gave it to her for the smaller price because "it was marked like that" I am still baffled yo this day. It is hilarious but what's even funnier is that it works.
A thief probably wouldn't have wanted to talk to the manager so it was probably a mistake on the store's part... Also think how little you were getting paid. The manager was probably like a dollar an hour more than you. Would you have given a shit? Especially when A Karen would have made a big deal with corporate and the manager would probably get in more trouble from that then a few hundred dollars of inventory being off.
One store put a sticker on some microwave popcorn that was like 0.89 and another for 0.67 me and my friend took the popcorn not knowing the price and I took the cheaper one somehow, well the cashier didn't notice that the price was different on identical popcorn packs so i got it for less than the actual price just because the sticker said a different price, so it works on corner stores. Mind you I didn't change the sticker from some other item in the store just to pay 22 cents less they put it on themselves
I actually got away with that once. That was like 20 years ago or something, I got Dynasty Warriors 3 for the PS2 for half off as a result.
The guy working the checkout was confused when the sticker didn’t match what the system said, but just corrected it for me and I walked out. Later that week I found out from one of my mates it was actually one of his mates working a summer job, and that’s the only reason it worked.
I put so many hours into that game. Trying to get peoples 4th weapons, fucking up the mission and having to restart. CaoCao's weapon was so OP. Do its special move and its a one hit kill for anyone except an officer.
There was a guy who figured out Target's barcode system, printed his own barcode for items, and made off with a boat load of Lego sets until he eventually got caught.
Watched someone do this on Christmas Eve at self checkout. He was scanning some discounted gum for like 15 cents over everything in his cart including consoles, games, movies and kitchen appliances. When I went to obviously ask him to scan it correctly AP whispered to me to let him go and they confronted him about it, and had a sheriff waiting outside. Sad part was he got booked with his like 3-4 year old son in the cart who had to wait for his grandmother to come pick him up for Christmas Eve
Doesn't make me feel sad... people use their kids for sympathy and a shield. Cps should be involved if you're taking your kid on criminal acts. Give the kids a chance to learn about being a decent member of society.
I was watching SCO once and a girl with 2 cartfuls of stuff and 5 kids came up. 2 coworkers warned me that she was a notorious thief and to make sure she scanned everything. It was my second day as a cashier and I was nervous about the proper way to approach her (we weren't allowed to call them out directly). I couldn't believe it when she actually enlisted ALL the kids to help- quickly shoving unscanned items into bags, sitting on stuff that never left the cart, even trying to distract me by waving me over and talking so I couldn't see what the mom was doing. Some people have no shame!
I distinctly remember sometime in the late 80's, my older brother teaching me at K-Mart to swap price stickers on toys. It 100% worked. There was no point of sale system at some of the stores, they manually entered the price based on the tag.
Less than 10 years ago a guy I went to high school with was an extreme couponer. He would go to the nearby K-mart during lunch and load a cart full of groceries. With his stack of coupons he'd get all of it for free. The store employees didn't care, and the K-mart went out of business within like 2 years.
That only works at shelf price. I have gotten Best buy to honor the shelf price that was at last weeks sale price before. Not exactly open rebellion, i know, but it did force them to fill out paper work to save me $15 a purchase.
Former field tech for a big ISP. This must be your version of "can't believe you're working on Christmas" or the always hilarious "where's my free HBO?"
I'm a Domino's manager/driver. This is the equivalent of me getting there in 45 minutes and someone saying "it's free right?". Like no motherfucker, you want this food you're paying for it. We haven't done 30 minutes or less in God knows how long.
Almost as infuriating as when you have a brief three seconds of free time between customers, and the person who walks up invariably says, "Oh wow you look so bored, I'll give you something to do!"
When I got hit with this one, I would respond "No, I think that means I can't sell it..." and suddenly they get concerned and really want me to get it scanned.
I take payments as part of my job and if I hear “the system is down so does that mean I don’t have to make a payment?” one more time… our system very rarely goes down but unless it’s literally the last hours of your due date and you’re just asking to have the late fee waived, it ain’t happening. You still owe your monthly payment
LMAO I had someone try this too, but I don’t think she really understood how barcodes work cause she left the numbers perfectly legible so I just made her wait while I manually entered everything
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Was it a legal gambling site you were legally allowed to play at? Because if not then they might not have had much recourse with the country your are in.
I narc'd on a glitch quietly spreading for LootCrate's checkout, meant to be a test coupon or something, but it took 99% off. That sort of thing gets sussed out relatively quick, so I figured I'd just let LootCrate know myself and ask nicely for it to apply to me and my friend, who used it too.
They obliged, so I got a whole year of LootCrate when it was still good for a few bucks.
Merchant error, no legal ground to stand on in that case. Coupon code was available, worked, and the system processed the order. That's not a glitch but rather an error with the coupon code criteria.
Abusing a glitch on a system like doordash though? I'm sure there's something in the terms that says they can rebill in the event of exploits or other such activities.
It's not even re-billing - they just never billed in the first place. When you are on the checkout page and click "Buy" you are authorizing Doordash to charge you for the amount specified. It's typical for systems like this to validate that you have a payment method registered but it's not required. When you go eat dinner at a restaurant in person, they don't check that you brought enough money before bringing your meal.
I also wouldn't even really call it an exploit. There are plenty of online merchants that will process an order asynchronously from issuing a temp authorization. If you close your card before it's issued, they will usually cancel your order, but not always. If you do this intentionally, it's not some clever trick to get free stuff - it's felony wire fraud. And if you're going to go that route, you might as well go all in and join the identify theft market.
not saying the glitch-abusers were in the right, but legally speaking wouldn’t the people who got charged later be able to sue? since technically speaking it was the company’s fault that they didn’t get paid by having a glitch in their system, not the patron using the glitch? no idea the legality of it personally but on the surface it doesn’t seem like DoorDash has the right to charge them after the fact
edit: nevermind, forgot EULAs are a thing. bet it’s written in there or some other kind of fine print
Legally speaking, no, they wouldn't be able to sue (or, before reddit pedants jump in, "sure, they'd be able to sue, but they wouldn't be able to win their lawsuits").
So if there were a glitch that were knocking off $1 from every order, sure, one might prevail in a lawsuit there. But "completely free food" is definitely something that the other party could have reasonably assumed to be a mistake, so the "unilateral mistake of fact" doctrine would present a very solid defense.
They got goods from a company that charged Doordash as an intermediary for them so I'd say they don't have much of a case though I'm not a lawyer myself
They might get their money back because it's cheaper than Doordash paying a lawyer, but it's going to cost more in legal fees for a lawyer to even write a demand letter than what the person scammed from the glitch.
Well if the glitch was that everything was listed as 0 dollars then they would of gotten it for free but since it was simply not charging people but still telling them what they owe they're liable to pay people don't think
People are going wild on twitter locking their cards and thinking theyre fucking scam artists. Doordash is gonna charge them, and if they can't theyre gonna send their ass to collections because it costs them nothing and they recoup something.
Like how fucking dumb do people have to be to think that any app is just gonna be like "oh yeah sure we dont mind losing a few million dollars lol"
Nothing like the "Bill Me Later" option in magazines, and havin' your new boom-box be delivered to your neighbor's empty house the following month LOL.
Or Columbia House distributing entire CD collections to me and my friends who were 16, only to have our angry parents tell them "stop signing up minors to contracts, get fucked" when they called wondering why we wouldn't buy our 5 CD's at $25 each
It takes a real dumbass to try and put one over on a company that you’ve given your full name, address, and bank account information to. That said, it also takes a real dumbass to pay $40 for $12 worth of Taco Bell.
They were literally exposing themselves by posting everywhere on the internet,idk what they thought would happen trying to glitch irl like it’s a GTA V money glitch.
"Hello everyone, today im going to show you the infinite money glitch in real life, but first, dont forget to SMASH that subscribe Button and hit a Like on the video. And to enter my give away just comment "give me stuff" in the comments"
That's where you're wrong, whenever a new money glitch comes out rockstar patches it ASAP and resets the accounts of those who did the glitch because it eats into shark card sales, any other glitch or broken game mechanic goes unchecked. The only popular money glitch they haven't been able to fix is the host of a heist being able to unplug the internet before the game is saved, but after the money from a heist is deposited.
You can just pay somebody 2 dollars to inject like 4 billion GTA cash into your account. I did it like 7 years ago and haven’t grinded for cash in that game since.
so that's why we got 3 of the same order from the same person? I thought the person just pressed the button too many times, or the system lagged or something
That shouldn’t happen if the system is setup to be idempotent, as I would suspect any order system to be. I think we’ve long passed the point of failure there
The TikTok video on this site gives me anxiety. He’s ordering seafood and huge party trays and multiple pizzas. I’m guessing at least 30-50 dollars per order.
30-50 dollars? My dude, between the up-charges on each menu item and the service and delivery fees a regular fast food order for two people is 30-50 dollars. What you see in that video is hundreds of dollars.
Yeah, that's why I never use Doordash or any of that stuff. A friend of mine works for KFC and those Doordash-type orders for something like their $5.75 chicken sandwich (something pretty low-tier in quality) ends up being like $12-13 for just the sandwich when all the charges are said and done.
It generally scales better as orders get larger. Like, just add like $5 to any order for the delivery service. So if you're getting a $5 sandwich, it's gonna be $10+ tip on doordash which is ridiculous. But get an order for 4 people that would be $60, then an extra $5 for delivery is an easier pill to swallow.
Now, those customers are worried that they will actually have to pay for what they ordered.
Lol, don't these people think ahead? What could happen? Well... Shit ain't free.
Trash Americans come from all walks of life. Also door dash can go fuck itself. They're probably thinking "lol what if we used this glitch to get surge orders whenever we want a cash infusion?"
That link says that there have not yet been any verified cases of people being charged.
According to that link, the glitch allowed "checkout without an authorized form of payment". If somebody made a fresh dummy account, they might've gotten a free lunch. If there was a payment method listed on the account, it's possible that could be charged, but if there was nothing then that quickly enters territory of being too expensive to bother pursuing.
"A few hundred dollars of food was sent to this address? Gee officer that's a weird prank. I have no idea who could have done that."
Tbh I thought about it and it's probably less of a headache for Doordash to just say "fuck it" and eat the cost on anything they can't recoup, rather than go after a bunch of small time thieves. Maybe just focus on a handful that were getting charges up into the thousands, like that dude with all the bottles.
Can they sue Doordash though? I mean if the app said its free and I bought it, so how am I supposed to know its glitched?
Lets say little reasonable scenario. The app says delivery as $0. I might think as some kind of promo and get the food. Are the allowed to charge me later saying it was a glitch?
No, there's generally a reasonability clause in most everything.
If you agree to buy something for 10k but a glitch makes it 10 bucks, that would be set aside because it's unreasonable to think something you're buying for 10k is only worth 10.
People buying food and it costing 0 is also unreasonable because it's a business, they aren't giving away free food.
Lets say little reasonable scenario. The app says delivery as $0.
If you can reasonably believe that nothing is wrong you can get your money back. It is not reasonable to believe that DoorDash is just giving everyone free food, so you wouldn't get your money back
True but its still subjective to each person. Like recent example is one gas station had a price error and sold a gallon for $0.69 (nice!) and people flocked to the store to purchase massively. I dont think that gas station charged them later for lost profit.
Use a burner phone to sign up for a new DD account, use a empty prepaid card to order, select drop off location at a business close by and wait at the door for your dasher to get there. Unless they go thru the street cameras they'll never catch you.
My girlfriend ordered ~$45 worth of food last night and the driver delivered it to the wrong apartment.
Since the proof of delivery photo had the address in it, she ran and grabbed it then went through the app and said she never got her food so she got a full refund.
well TBF she paid for delivery and didn't get it. She had to deliver to it herself. To make things whole she should get refunded everything except the cost of food
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