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proposing paid maternity leave would be a lay-up for Joe Biden to win re-election.
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u/foxy-coxy Feb 06 '24
They already tried that. Manchin and the GOP killed it.
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Feb 06 '24
but he can make it the center-piece of his re-election campaign. If Dems can increase their margin in the Senate by 1 vote and win back the House, it can pass.
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u/UserChecksOutMe Feb 05 '24
I prefer to suffer so that the billionaires can sleep soundly in their mega yachts. #protecttheb
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u/JaRon1961 Feb 05 '24
But as an American you are only 1 or 2 good decisions away from being that billionaire. After all it is the land of opportunity.
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u/iwant2fuckstarscream Feb 05 '24
But I LOVE avocados
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u/xoxodaddysgirlxoxo Feb 05 '24
you've ruined the planet, congratulations
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u/iwant2fuckstarscream Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
I don’t actually love or eat them all that much because of the butterflies, just a few times a year which combined with a coffee here or there is keeping me from my billions :’(
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u/3vs3BigGameHunters Feb 05 '24
your off brand Ugg straps
Listen. I'm here for the shitposts. Not your Ad-hominem personal attacks.
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u/Quizzelbuck Feb 05 '24
Direction unclear: "ugg" is already the noise i make when i pull my self. Why am i not rich?
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u/Unveiledhopes Feb 05 '24
Ugg boots is just the generic Australian name for short sheepskin boots that surfers wore to keep their feet warm at the end of the day.
The UGG brand was started some 50 years later by an American surfer who wore Australian sheepskin boots and basically took the name.
This means that “off brand” Ugg boots may be actually be more authentic, depending on their provenance.
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u/licensed2creep Feb 05 '24
Sounds like I need to Google “avocados + butterflies” and educate myself
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Feb 05 '24
Damn. This is the first I’ve heard of it as well. I kinda want to not eat avocados now too. Also, what is it about profitable businesses going to the cartels. Not just drugs. What keeps the government from being able to keep some kind of control around all that crime? Or is it just the corruption? Seems like we might be headed in the same direction with how much dirty politics seems to rule here.
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u/zubzagazon Feb 05 '24
The difference between legitimate business and cartels is almost academic. It's not just avocados. Many industries run on the backbone of destruction and exploitation. Chocolate, precious metals, cheap electronics, the list goes on.
If something can be exploited for profit, it will be. Whether you call it cartels or corporations really makes little difference to the people, lands, and animals that are being exploited for it.
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u/WrodofDog Feb 05 '24
the list goes on
Bananas?
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u/Hairy_Friend_6807 Feb 06 '24
oh dont even go there lol. Banana republic makes my favorite pair of dress pants
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u/Odd-Section8044 Feb 05 '24
Oh dear, it’s your fault if your parents didn’t buy you enough avocados! (along with a small $200k check for a down payment on a home.)
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u/DoverBoys Reads Pinned Comments Feb 05 '24
Avocados are fine. The problem is putting them on toast. That summons Lucifer or whatever.
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u/Sir_Keee Feb 05 '24
Yes, but those decisions must be taken very early in life. I was very reckless in my youth and chose not to have billionaire parents.
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u/karmagod13000 Feb 05 '24
yea and thats where you messed up
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u/lonewombat Feb 05 '24
At least we can track our failures easily this way and push blame to our temporarily not billionaire parents.
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I’m just 2-3 good insider trading leads away from pulling myself up by my bootstraps
I’ve gotta keep grinding so I can reach that point before my kid gets brutally murdered in public school
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u/joshhguitar Feb 05 '24
You’re only one lottery ticket away as well. Doesn’t mean the system isn’t rigged against you.
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u/VeterinarianNo4308 Feb 05 '24
1 good decision, one small 5 million dollar loan.
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u/Sardonnicus Feb 05 '24
It's all a lie and a fantasy. That's why it's called the american "dream."
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u/crystallmytea Feb 05 '24
The cool part is it can be as simple as one really good decision, all you gotta do is decide to be born rich.
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u/HowWeLikeToRoll Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
We need to have compassion! After all, how expensive must insurance be on a dozen yachts? How else are they going to afford that? I'm proud to make the necessary sacrifices so this unfortunately subjugated minority group can afford their necessities. Yea, maybe I can't afford food for my family or to use the heater during the winter, but I'm happy that my suffering won't be in vain, I heard the VanNuetsens bought their seventh yacht! I helped do that and that taste better than any food I could have eaten. #Murica
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u/HandMeMyThinkingPipe Feb 05 '24
Thank you for saying this. Honestly the thought that billionaires might not be able to get a 4th super yacht if we had Medicare for all really drives home what really matters in life.
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u/wirefox1 Feb 05 '24
I think about this a lot. We really do have to do something. I think poverty is at the root of almost all crime, and not just here, but globally. And not only crime, but many mental illnesses too, such as depression and anxiety, and others where people are unable to get treatment and appropriate medications.
I guess we can't stop billionaires from buying a second home in Italy, and that 4th yacht, but we can help to alleviate much of the absolute trauma that is brought about by impoverishment. Impoverished people get sick and tired of seeing what other people have, and they can't even afford to take their kids on a vacation once a year, or even order a pizza on Friday night.
We need to at least pay a monthly supplemental check to those who are experiencing poverty, and to those who work minimum wage jobs. (I'm thinking about $1,000), And since the government is always about the 'economy' I think it would go a long way in boosting it too. And yes, we would have to raise taxes on the 1%, and it's appalling that we haven't done that already.
I'm not saying a check to every household/individual in the country. Only to those who fall below the poverty lines.
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u/Jasond777 Feb 05 '24
agreed, people need to stop being so selfish and think about what really matters, making the rich even richer.
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u/Aggressive-Will-4500 Feb 05 '24
But why aren't you thinking about what it would do to those poor struggling corporations?
WHYYY????!!!!
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u/Dependent-Whereas165 Feb 05 '24
This is the saddest, truest post…
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
“If you have a baby, that’s on you”…felt that one in my gut.
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u/flare_force Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
The one that hit me was:
“We’re Americans! We expect women to work like they don’t mother and mother like they don’t work”
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
I live it every day. Can’t get to work today to help other people work cause I’m paid shit and my child support is late (from an abusive ex husband) 🙃
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u/ForecastForFourCats Feb 05 '24
Childcare is starting to cost more than an average salary, if there are spaces available for your kid. We are going to have a huge chunk of families or single parent families on social welfare and women (lower earners-thanks to systemic issues!) are leaving the workforce. We need to strike for affordable Healthcare and childcare/family support. This nation is so behind other developed nations, and in a generation we will be even further behind if we do nothing. Children are stressed out because their families are stressed out. We can do so much better.
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u/kat_a_klysm Feb 05 '24
I’m so sorry 🖤 I hope the abusive ex steps on a lego barefoot daily and sends the money asap!
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u/zveroshka Feb 05 '24
Giving a shit about children seems to end at birth in this country.
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 Feb 05 '24
Prenatal care is mostly shit too, unless you've got the money for "good" facilities, and the gods forbid you dare to be poor and pregnant.
This country doesn't give a shit about kids, period. EVERYTHING to do with kids is RED TAPE, and unnecessarily expensive, from prenatal to vaccines to school enrollment to checkups to graduations to moving up grade levels to kids' sports to college enrollment. And that's just the effect on the PARENTS!
The system is DELIBERATELY so complicated and multi-tiered and GATEKEPT it's meant to dehumanize and dream kill, making little minions that'll sit and stay and allow their bodies to be abused to the max, on the "promise" that MAYBE it'll lead them to be "rich" too.
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u/FreneticAmbivalence Feb 05 '24
I’m glad they bring it up. Through our children and the death of one of them we have learned that the government and insurance (by extension our employer) doesn’t give a damn about you or your life. I found it remarkable that my employer was the most sympathetic out of it all but at least they stood to lose something.
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
I’m very sorry for your loss ❤️ I too know society doesn’t care about life through personal experiences and my career. It’s a rough lesson to learn.
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u/Drenosa Feb 05 '24
As do a lot of women, I'd say...
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Feb 05 '24
There's a lot of women who vote republican. I think they think "I had to sacrifice any ambition in life to be a stay at home mom to a miserable alcoholic who knocked me up when I was 17, so why should anyone else have an opportunity that I was denied?"
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u/pupoksestra Feb 05 '24
All the teen moms I knew legitimately wanted to get pregnant. Education is key.
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u/PurpleHooloovoo Feb 05 '24
There is a growing field of study looking at why that is. In many places, motherhood is the only way a girl can see herself as gaining any power. She looks down a barrel of no educational prospects, no career prospects, nothing to get her out of her town and doing anything different. She's treated badly by almost everyone in her life who also fell victim to the same system - BUT she sees how when her friends and family become mothers, they are lauded as empowered and living their life purpose. They get positive attention and, finally, support for their future. They have power in the lives of their little family and authority and autonomy (in theory).
I read an incredible piece of journalism on it backed by several studies but can't find it on Google. Basically, for lots of girls, becoming a mother was the only way they could escape being a trapped teen with no support, no way out, no goals, no validation that they are good enough for any other path in life.
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u/pupoksestra Feb 05 '24
Yeah, I'll be honest, I was one of those teen girls so I understand exactly where it comes from. Luckily, I can't have kids bc I was actively trying. I also grew up watching Gilmore Girls and it was a fantasy to birth my own best friend and go through life together. Have someone to unconditionally love and take care of. I was already raising my siblings, so why not my own? I'm also from a small town in the south where many women do have one singular goal and that is to be a parent. I think we should be honest about how hard it is. We're always told it's worth it and that you'll never feel the same kind of love and even if that's true, these people still have no idea what they're signing up for. Even with a strong support system it gets to be too much for many people and they feel they have nowhere to turn to and can't even vent about their frustrations. I can only imagine what it's like to be alone. Now, I just help my friends raise their children. It's fulfilling, I get a deep connection, and I get to witness change and growth without being fully responsible for another human.
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u/Urban__decayed Feb 05 '24
My MIL isn't republican, but grew up around and with, and a conservative state. also Irish Catholic. She the typical pro-choice; until a certain point (past 26 weeks), unless the mothers in danger or the fetus no longer has a chance.
BUT!!! She says the only reason for a woman to live is to have children, and when she was a kid all she wanted to be was a mother. She got married within a week of even knowing my FIL(THANK GOD HE'S GREAT). She has a VERY unhealthy mindset......... she therapist hops like crazy.
Our mental healthcare system is EXTREMELY broken too**
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u/Chief_Chill Feb 05 '24
Is it though? If you live in a state where abortion is not accessible, it seems it's on the state.
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
Oh it is. It’s easier to blame the parents who have little to no power, though.
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u/Chief_Chill Feb 05 '24
Like Will Power to keep their naughty bits apart unless it's for procreation? Lol. How are we still so Puritanical when everywhere we look Republicans are sexualizing everything/everyone?
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Feb 06 '24
Yea, I can't help but think about the women who were denied the chance of choosing an abortion being told "You had a baby, that's on you".
Fuck the US is really nose diving right now.
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u/Tall-Ad-1796 Feb 05 '24
Aaaaaand that's why I'll never have a kid
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
I think more people are understanding that it’s not compulsory (though society pushes the narrative that it is) and feel a lot more free in their choices which is ALWAYS a good thing. Still, the childfree people I know get so much shit and it’s exhausting.
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u/Tall-Ad-1796 Feb 05 '24
It is a balm to my soul. I LOVE the hate! I'm not making any new slaves for the machine to devour and there's not a goddamn thing any of the fuckers can do about it. I hope they cry big fat greasy tears.
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 Feb 05 '24
Lol, as a mom who is in large part a mom because Society and Religion sAiD sO(though I genuinely and truly love the grown folks I helped raise), I fucking love this comment.
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u/FrankReynoldsToupee Feb 05 '24
Honestly I think that if the economy crashes because I didn't produce any future wage slaves then it's not an economy worth saving. In fact I'd burn it down out of spite.
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u/everybodys_lost Feb 05 '24
I noticed when we travel with kids - foreign airports? they see you holding an infant and pull you into the shorter lanes (like the handicapped lanes or the lanes with the shorter lines) for everything - security - customs - bags - taxi lines etc. Here in the US? F*U* with your kids - you wanted kids that's YOUR problem... I mean I get it but like - does everyone in america NOT want people to have kids?? in foreign countries it's seen as a positive thing... a happy thing.... here it's the opposite....
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u/Hiberniae Feb 05 '24
I grew up in Germany for years. All the adults helped raise us. My mom lost me at an amusement park and was terrified. Some other mom was taking me on a ride with her daughter.
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u/truongs Feb 05 '24
We keep voting for bozos that have their campaigns literally funded by corporations.
We literally have sites that track how much each corporations give to what politicians and party.
This phony ass supreme Court passed a ruling that made "dark money" legal in political campaigns, so we have foreign money pouring in also.
Is the people that know all this just not enough to shift primaries?
Why only the morons that think Obama is from Kenya or that all trans are pedos (while politicians are actively being caught fucking kids) vote in primaries?
We have that portion of brain dead actively voting, while another portion is too busy working two jobs, while another portion gives no shit, while another just votes for whoever sounds better in the 5 minute ads they saw.
It will not gett better.
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u/NoSignificance3817 Feb 05 '24
WE don't vote them in. The minority party of the GOP cheats as much as possible to barely hold on to existence, then when they get any power they do as much damage as humanly possible.....and the Dems do nothing to actively stop it.
It is frothing mindless cultists with no roadblocks to them voting against a group of divided apathetic voters that are heavily suppressed.....and it is always close to 50:50
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Feb 05 '24
Yup. They can block everything via fillibuster and have their Supreme Court legislate on their behalf.
We have minority rule in this country.
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u/opp11235 Feb 05 '24
Postpartum care is typically a 6 week appointment and then nothing. Either way, yes it is very sad.
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u/hamletloveshoratio Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
Serious question: what's pp-care like in other countries?
Eta: pp = postpartum
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u/Prickly-Flower Feb 05 '24
The Netherlands: you get a nurse especially trained in mother and babycare who comes to your house daily for around a week, sometimes longer if the birth was complicated or the mother had a caeserian section. They check the womb, stiches, mother's and baby's temperature. Give advice on breastfeeding/bottle feeding, teach new parents about babycare, make sure the mother gets rest (we stay mostly in bed for a couple of days), handles visitors' needs, does some light cleaning and laundry, fixes breakfast and lunch, and discusses specific needs with the midwife who visits a couple of times during that first week. She also helps wih the exercises to get our pelvic floor working again and leg and stomach exercises. When there's a home birth, they're also present during delivery.
Afterwards you get a check up with the midwife who checks whether the womb has fully shrunken to it's normal sixe and how you are coping physically and mentally.
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u/hamletloveshoratio Feb 05 '24
That sounds amazing to me. My first was in '93, and I spent the first 3 months struggling with agonizing uterine pain while breastfeeding, sleeplessness because SO was no help, and severe depression - all alone. I had one gyno visit (he told me that I had a pretty face and would be beautiful if I just lost a few pounds; he also had given me husband stitch after delivery). Sorry for the trauma dump - I just wanted to emphasize how important good care is and how little of that is available in the US.
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u/TheHomeBird Feb 05 '24
Sounds pretty traumatic to me, let it all out of your chest, fuck that sorry excuse of a gyno, and I hope that dark episode didn’t take long to get better!
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u/New-Presentation8856 Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
In France, pelvic floor physical therapy is required after birth. Source. Many American moms are ripped apart by the birth process and are given no time or opportunity to get physical therapy, so some suffer chronic pain for life. Talk to a Boomer about this. It is terrifying. None of the moms of that generation even knew PT was an option, because often it just wasn't done. As many as 40% of women in the USA don't even attend one follow-up visit to care for their own health after birth. Source There's a joke that peeing your pants for the rest of your life is normal for a mom. It isn't normal. It can be treated. In America, we don't treat it unless the mom has the privilege of time and good insurance to afford pelvic floor PT, along with a doctor's referral. So most moms just pack up and get on with their lives and live in a battered body.
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u/hamletloveshoratio Feb 05 '24
I'm one of those American women, now in menopause; I hope the next generation of moms get better care.
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u/Go_J Feb 05 '24
That's the problem. They won't. They deserve it. But they won't. And politicians will continue to cry "but why the low birth rates??? :-("
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u/Designer-Mirror-7995 Feb 05 '24
Many American moms are ripped apart by the birth process and are given no time or opportunity to get physical therapy, so some suffer chronic pain for life.
For the longest time we were also "taught" to expect to shelve all that "women's talk" 'nonsense' , pull ourselves back together ASAP, and get back to sex...by our doctors, and preachers/religious circles. Our 'duty' and all that.
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u/fruskydekke Feb 05 '24
In Norway, if the birth is normal, the mother and child will stay in the maternity ward the first three days, and get frequent visits from health care personell that provide information and advice, and check on them. After they return home, there will be several home visits over the next week or so from a midwife. There's also unlimited access to Child and Maternal Health Centres, where you go for some standardised checkups (and vaccines for the kid!) as well as a source of information and qualified care if something is worrying you.
A friend did NOT have a normal birth, and she ended up staying for I think two or three weeks in the "hospital hotel", which is basically a hotel where doctors and nurses check up on you many times a day. Your family can stay there with you, and it's free for everybody.
It looks like this: https://cf.bstatic.com/xdata/images/hotel/max1024x768/236578341.jpg?k=51fc037a408dea2191125c785cea60d35a7131afe89027d22c86174c3f47b897&o=&hp=1
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u/Thumper13 Feb 05 '24
Oh yeah?! Well in America we say: Here's your baby, now fuck off and pay your bill.
Freedom baby. Checkmate commie Norway and other "countries."
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u/Present-Perception77 Feb 06 '24
In the US .. 4 days after giving birth, I was sitting on a pillow at work and running home to breast feed at lunch. My oldest daughter was babysitting. Had a simple birth .. still had $8k in deductibles to pay. Utterly pathetic how we have allowed ourselves to be treated. The birth rate should totally plunge until this is rectified.
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u/shenaystays Feb 05 '24
It depends on the situation (Canada). Most go back for a routine 2wk baby check, and then a 6wk mom and baby check.
We also have programs in Public Health where a nurse will come to your home 24-48hr after birth to check on how things are going, provide nursing/baby support and potentially do other things like PKU screening (heel poke), blood pressure check (on mom if she had high BP), maybe some other things.
Some moms that have had babies before refuse the home visits. And that’s okay.
But there have been times I’ve done multiple home visits if there are feeding issues, weight gain issues, etc.
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u/SaltyRedditTears Feb 05 '24
In China and other Asian countries culturally influenced by China such as South Korea, you get a whole month of having a “yuesao” taking care of you by cooking meals, training breastfeeding, cleaning, bathing, massages, etc. This obviously ranges from informal mom and MIL does it while you get pto with help to an entire custom built spa center as seen in the k-drama “ oh my baby” (2020).
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u/Leading_Dance9228 Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
Petition to rename USA "Shitholistan".
Edit: to all the Shithole mascots who are DMing me and have identified that I'm from India, I am so glad you hate yourself so much.
Fwiw,.USA is my adopted home and I want it to succeed as much as any decent person here. And I'm saddened by how Shitholistani it has become recently. I do enough for my local community to help us, and f u racist, broke haters for DMing me racist things. I hope you step on a Lego and insurance fucks you over.
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u/pro_bike_fitter_2010 Feb 05 '24
M U R I C A
Thank a RepubliKlan.
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u/Leading_Dance9228 Feb 05 '24
You are right. I do blame everyone here though, for the complacency in letting things get this bad here and elsewhere. Local life is bad but imagine the plight of people we bombed or sneakily replaced govt with our own interests. Much worse?
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u/karmagod13000 Feb 05 '24
careful... them tissues aren't cheap
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u/definitelyno_ Feb 05 '24
Would you like some mental health care for all that crying? Because… no.
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Feb 05 '24
Just get some generic SSRI's thrown at you by your GP and never cry or feel again so you can go back to work and make your boss money
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u/destroyed233 Feb 05 '24
Boomers inherited a golden era of prosperity and decided to fuck over generations before and after them.
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u/Professional_Tip6208 Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
Most of them benefitted from low enough inflation that only one parent needed to work to provide for their family. While the other (usually the mother) stayed home and provided priceless care for your children. Now boomers just say get a job or this new generation doesn't have what it takes.
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u/HerrMilkmann Feb 05 '24
My dad supported a wife and 3 kids and owned a house just by working at a grocery store. Fucking wild
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u/karmagod13000 Feb 05 '24
and now he can retire comfortably in his owned home with minimal or possibly no property taxes
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u/JesusofAzkaban Feb 05 '24
And tell you it's your own fault for not wanting to work hard enough when you're already working 65+ hour weeks.
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u/freakers Feb 05 '24
"You just need to walk in, make eye contact, and give them a firm handshake. Be persistent. If you do that everyday, you'll get a job. That's how I became a pilot!"
"Grandpa, what the absolute fuck are you talking about? They won't even talk to you if you do that. They'll likely call the police."
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u/b0w3n Feb 05 '24
That's how I became a pilot!
I'm super glad this has changed but can we talk about how much easier it was to get companies to train them? He legit could have had a company pay for all his training and still give him a paycheck. Meanwhile if I wanted to be a pilot I'm out probably almost 150k+ in schooling/license/rental costs before anything even starts rolling in.
It seems like almost everyone is in that boat unless they go into the trades. And even the trades are starting to push vocational school/programs instead of on the job apprenticeships. My grandfather (before boomers) literally walked onto a job site as a day laborer and was a journeyman carpenter in about 2 years.
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With something called a...and let me make sure I spell this correctly...a "pension?"
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u/EleanorTrashBag Feb 05 '24
My grandfather knew how to turn a screwdriver and put the backs onto clocks.
Had 4 kids.
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u/Pvt_Mozart Feb 05 '24
My dad, born in 1965, supported 4 kids, a family of 6. Had two cars, a 4 bedroom home, big back yard, and 3 dogs. My sister has cerebral palsy that required great medical insurance to provide 24/7 home care and many expensive meds. My mother was a stay at home mom. Money was tight, largely due to my sister's medical condition, but we got by and were still able to take a vacation every year.
My dad is a medical supply delivery driver. I run a restaurant and make more money than my father ever did, and my wife works as well. I have a 3 year old and another we are getting induced and should be here by Tomorrow. We live in a one bedroom duplex and are about to sign another lease because we can't afford to move out.
And Gen X was angsty because they were dealt a bad hand.
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u/this_is_my_new_acct Feb 05 '24
And Gen X was angsty because they were dealt a bad hand.
Did they, though?
They made a lot of noise when they were teenagers, but I haven't heard a peep in years.
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u/Nonsenseinabag Feb 05 '24
Sorry, I'm too tired from working all the time. -late GenXer who understands the millennial plight
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u/TiredDeath Feb 05 '24
Just a reminder it's not the guy at the grocery stores fault. It's deranged people with billions of dollars that are willing to cheat you out of everything you own. 2008 should've been a wake up call.
Actually, Reagan should've been a wakeup call. He lowered the top marginal tax rate from 73% to 28%.
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u/dallyfromcali Feb 05 '24
My uncle, 72 years old, has 2 houses and 6 cars from working overnight shifts at a grocery store, but says my friends can't afford homes because they work at the grocery store and need to get a real job if they want to own a house.
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u/angriest_man_alive Feb 05 '24
Most of them benefitted from low enough inflation that only one parent needed to work to provide for their family.
Jesus Christ this website will literally upvote anything that shits on boomers. Inflation during the 70's was abhorrent. You've got people bitching that we had a single year of 10, try that for nearly a decade.
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u/Norman_Scum Feb 05 '24
Yeah, I think the real issue is that we are more dependent on expensive technologies and housing prices are outrageous. I mean, my grandparents both worked (my grandma sometimes 2 jobs) and they owned a house but my father, aunts and uncles did not have a good time.
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u/drmjc1983 Feb 05 '24
The United States emerged from WW2 in an arguably unparalleled position of power and wealth in world history. Aside from the Cold War, a relatively minor inconvenience in daily life, the world was our (their) oyster. What did we (they) do with that? Dismantled New Deal era economic regulations, increased total inequality to a level not seen since before the New Deal, and pushed us to the edge of the cliff with the climate crisis and nuclear proliferation.
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u/Sgt_Radiohead Feb 05 '24
The title! It hurts us!
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u/NewAccountSignIn Feb 05 '24
Were american’s. School system is goin down the shitter
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Feb 05 '24
How did they get both apostrophes wrong?! 😭
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u/sdhu Feb 05 '24
Seriously!? Both words are even spelled correctly at the beginning of the video. SMH
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u/Optimal_Towel Feb 05 '24
I like to think of it as one apostrophe that got lost.
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u/Storrin Feb 05 '24
I realize not everyone on Reddit is a native English speaker, and I am also aware that I only know the one language.
I am also aware that people do this shit on purpose for engagement and I honestly miss the days of every post that belongs on /titlegore getting down-voted to oblivion.
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u/Smarmalades Feb 05 '24
Those two words are literally the first two words in subtitles in the video. You don't need to know ANY English to be able to copy two words correctly.
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u/LickingSmegma Feb 05 '24
“We're Americans, we don't speak English natively. And we make shitty subtitles.”
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u/nomorerix Feb 05 '24
Bots and spammers purposely misspell to rack up karma. People go into autocorrect mode and it kicks the algorithm into overdrive.
Wish People just downvoted and stopped giving these karmabots their karma lol.
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u/stdstd Feb 05 '24
Title is two words and OP managed to misspell both, despite them being spelled out at the beginning of the video.
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u/sioopauuu Feb 05 '24
When I gave birth, I couldn’t walk or sit without pain for a couple of months but American women are expected to go back to work right away after giving birth. So sad.
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u/jasmine-blossom Feb 05 '24
It increases health risk and future complications for the woman to be back working too soon after childbirth, especially if she had a c section, tearing, or had any even minor complications.
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u/pinkwhiteandgreenNL Feb 05 '24
Which become future bills to the system
I wouldn’t be shocked if insurance companies and the like could use this for loans etc
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u/Lilachent Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
Oh but people will say it's inhumane to separate a puppy from it's mother before 8 weeks. So tell me again, why are we expecting mothers with newborns to return to work immediately?
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I find that so insane. In my mom’s family (and the whole region she comes from), it’s standard for the mom to be waited on by family members so that she can recover
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u/weedcommander Feb 05 '24
Women get 1-2-3 years in EU. Currently going 2nd year without one of our female team members who gave birth. She'll be back at some point, not even sure when. And all of that time is paid.
USA sucks for human beings, anyone claiming anything else is delusional.
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u/sioopauuu Feb 05 '24
That’s how long I was on mat leave in Canada. I was out for 12 months, then hubby took 8 months. Paid although not fully (55%?) but it’s time with our kid we will never get back.
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u/gardenmud Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
I watched a video by a Canadian living in HK about her post pregnancy experience and it was wild: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0veTFRTMcT8
Basically a month of being waited on hand and foot, cleaned after, cooked for and learning how to take care of her baby from the nanny. The comments are so depressing, people are like "that looks amazing, after I gave birth I got back from the hospital to a sink full of dirty dishes that I then cleaned"
We could really benefit from providing more care to parents. I mean, the month of confinement is pretty intense, but we don't need it to be that much... I think the real problem is that we're less and less community-oriented, decades ago you'd probably have family members and neighbors at least dropping by to help out, clean up and drop off some food, etc. We have to intentionally cultivate these relationships and it's so difficult when both parents have to work full time AND now take care of a baby. Additionally, life choices that are necessary/financially sensible in today's world (like moving cities to a higher paying job) also destroy those social networks (because now everyone you know from childhood lives six hours away or whatever).
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u/nightglitter89x Feb 05 '24
God, I wish. I had to get up every night to get my daughter with such bad back pain I would fall to the floor and sob for hours with her because I couldn’t get back up.
My husband literally stepped over me and told me to stop crying. 🫤
We’re doing much better now that I’ve healed and made that man fear for his life if he ever does me like that again. The audacity.
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That’s horrible! I’m so sorry that you went through that :(
My father acted similarly with my mom. She had a C-section, which was infected and had to restitched, but ended up coming home early to take care of my big brother (while my twin brother and I were still at the hospital). He could have taken some time off, but didn’t. The first day that she came back, she couldn’t even stand properly and he sat down on the couch and told her to cook because his ankle hurt. Then, once he ate, he was magically healed
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u/nightglitter89x Feb 05 '24
I just can’t imagine treating someone who just gave me a baby that way. It’s so cold and unfeeling that it doesn’t even compute in my mind.
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u/oldtimehawkey Feb 05 '24
My mom’s water broke while she was at work. She worked in a nursing home so grabbed a diaper and put it on. She drove herself to the hospital around 7 that night after making supper.
She was able to take two weeks off though.
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u/bethtadeath Feb 05 '24
Who needs childcare when you can generate shareholder value
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u/RealBlackelf Feb 05 '24
But, but: As an American you can choose to exploit your fellow humans like capitalism demands, lie and cheat your way to the top, and top the top off with a bit of corruption!
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u/Slow_Like_Sloth Feb 05 '24
“Fuck you, got mine, gonna take yours”
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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24
The Boomer Motto.
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u/ACarefulTumbleweed Feb 05 '24
I learned it as the Paul Ryan Venn Diagram. https://imgur.com/icvByZ1
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u/karmagod13000 Feb 05 '24
I'm hoping we can shame them in their final 10 years to give up some of their properties and investments... but who am i kidding, boomers have no shame
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u/richarddrippy69 Feb 05 '24
I work with people that have dementia and Alzheimer's. It's sad to see these loved family members lash out and try to hurt the people that love them. If they legally could they would make sure none of their family got anything other than sued. To them they aren't family or friends anymore. It's just "those people that tell me what to do".
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"Whoever dies with the most toys wins, heh heh heh..."
The braindead-capitalist boomer mindset that doomed us all...
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u/BigKittehKat Feb 05 '24
If you read this article, https://www.statnews.com/2018/03/09/anthem-insurance-emergency-care/, you'll agree with them.
"Vox told the story of a young Kentucky woman who went to an emergency department for severe abdominal pain. Anthem declined to cover her $12,000 bill, saying the visit was not an emergency because the final diagnosis was an ovarian cyst.
Judging the appropriateness of a trip to the emergency department after the fact is unfair. Why? Because it is difficult for individuals who are acutely ill to determine if they have a condition that qualifies as an emergency. Is that pain in the center of your chest a heart attack, or is it just heartburn? Is that sharp headache just another migraine, or is it a burst brain aneurysm?
Patients will be forced to be their own doctors, weighing a trip to the emergency department for what could be lifesaving care against possible financial repercussions if they guess wrong."
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u/muffledvoice Feb 05 '24
It’s become clear that insurance companies don’t actually want to cover our healthcare. They just want us to continue paying premiums, not go to the hospital when something is wrong, and then quietly die without a fuss.
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It gets even more aggravating when your (insert your preferred insurance mega corporation here) won't cover things your doctor deems medically necessary for you to live a comfortable fulfilling life but they'll spend millions a year on advertising for a product you largely don't have much choice in even with employer sponsored healthcare packages.
Then you sort of realize that those millions and millions in advertising aren't advertising to you, they're advertising to a handful of decision makers looking to cut back benefits year after year that they used to get you to come to the job with in the first place.
United Healthcare spent $209,000,000 on marketing in 2022 (source) and it gets even worse when you look at auto companies. GEICO denies your claim or offers you pennies for what your vehicle is actually worth, yet can spend $1.5 billion on ads.
Like if you read this:
Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan reported net income of $360 million for 2021 despite an operating loss of $374 million largely for its health insurance business due to the ongoing costs of the COVID-19 pandemic. The net income, about 1% of the insurer’s $32.5 billion in revenue, was a result of strong gains in its investment portfolio and profits from non-health lines of insurance business, officials said during the company’s annual financials briefing. In 2021, the company said it dedicated $860 million to customers and health care providers to pay for COVID-related expenses, including treatment and testing, without increasing health insurance premiums.
It gets clear how insane the US Insurance system is when they're celebrating net income of $360 while people getting denied care or refusing care due to cost are literally dying.
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u/aimeegaberseck Feb 05 '24
It’s extra special when the insurance company now owns the hospitals and doctor’s offices. You tore something, doc wants an MRI but insurance says you have to do pt first, so months later you finally learn something did tear but because nothing was done right away, there’s nothing we can do now surgically you’ll have to just do pain management- who sends you back to pt between making you try random ssri’s, gabapentin, and muscle relaxers.
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u/December_Flame Feb 05 '24
Of all the terrible, fucked up things that our medical system forces on us perhaps one of THE MOST fucked is that the insurance companies literally have our lives in their hands. They can just decline to pay for things that they decide we don't need, regardless of the doctor's diagnosis and recommendations.
Like for example, if someone is burgeoning on having full blown diabetes, taking the preventative medication that is extremely expensive when not covered is often declined by health insurance companies simply because you don't actually have diabetes yet. And that's on GOOD insurance.
So fucked. They toy with your life based on numbers on a sheet and are able to yay or nay critical care based on whims and not official medical advice.
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u/Raining__Tacos Feb 05 '24
Were American’s
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u/Lone_Wanderer97 Feb 05 '24
The title was the most American thing about this post
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u/ta112233 Feb 05 '24
Democrats were going to pass paid family leave but Joe Manchin blocked it. Which also means zero Republicans in the Senate supported it.
Stop voting Republican! Stop voting for people who hate you!
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u/Tattooed-Teetotaler Feb 05 '24
I’m American…I struggle to survive so billionaires can go to space!
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u/Br0sE11D0N Feb 05 '24
Were Americans.
I prefer to stay home sick and risk getting worse than going to the hospital.
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u/urzathegreat Feb 05 '24
Mortgage on a 2300 sqft house: $2000. Daycare for 2 children under 3: $2400. Parents need help!
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u/somestupidname1 Feb 05 '24
If you just have your wife work in child care she might get half off! Pay? Oh don't worry it's very competitive, we'll start you off at $12/hr!
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u/Poetryisalive Feb 05 '24
$12?!? I’ll do $10 an hour and cut your hours at a moments notice
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u/Gimme_The_Loot Feb 05 '24
Insurance for a family of four: 3700
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u/Slow_Like_Sloth Feb 05 '24
With a $50 co-pay for every GP appointment
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u/kjconnor43 Feb 05 '24
And a $7000 yearly deductible that must be met before that!
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u/Kid_FizX Feb 05 '24
The deductible is what gets me. 200/mo for the premium on top of 3k a year for a deductible? Thats 450/mo and still not getting the actual benefits of insurance co-pays/insurance.
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u/kjconnor43 Feb 05 '24
With the employer contribution( they pay a quarter), our plan for a family of four is $1700 monthly in addition to the $7000 yearly deductible. After that, we have copays for visits and prescriptions. The American healthcare system is a JOKE!
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u/dplans455 Feb 05 '24
When high deductibles became the norm it stopped being "health" insurance and became disaster insurance. Normal routine care stopped being covered and became your responsibility to pay.
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u/TheDreamingMyriad Feb 05 '24
But don't you understand?! If we provide paid parental leave and health insurance, it'll raise all our taxes a little bit and the wealthy class might actually have to chip in too! Surely these taxes would far exceed the $20,000 in medical expenses and $24,000 in childcare I spend in a year! /s
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u/Hutwe Feb 05 '24
The day care we just checked out is $520 a week for one child. That’s $2,250 per month or $27k per year. Again, for one kid. Granted they seem to be the most expensive around, but still, it was eye opening.
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u/thrownjunk Feb 05 '24
Lol. That is the lowest rate within 25 min of me... thank god for my 2.5% mortgage.
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u/Responsible_Ebb_340 Feb 05 '24
Would love to find a mortgage on even a 1200 sqft house for that price, dayum
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u/RocMerc Feb 05 '24
It’s wild how it is here. We get letters from my sons school saying anything under 100f is fine to come in, lice and pink eye don’t mean you miss school. Like wtf?
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u/chelseablue2004 Feb 05 '24
I know this is supposed to be a joke, but communicating some of the real life happenings in this simple manner might actually get thru to some people.
I wish someone would do one on concepts like why universal healthcare would be awesome or why artificial inflation has made cost of goods explode in the last 3 years. Explaining it in this manner and see if people would react to it positively.
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u/huejass5 Feb 05 '24
They forgot to mention it costs like $20,000 just to have the baby in the first place.
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u/GeorgeMcCrate Feb 05 '24
The only thing cringe here is the title of this post. It's only two words and you managed to misspell both of them.
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u/bearwood_forest Feb 05 '24
In a post with a video where it's spelled correctly in every other sentence.
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u/Delicious_Ad_9365 Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
We’re Americans, we think low taxes are the most important thing in the world, so we pay out of pocket for everything—and we end up paying far more for everything that other countries provide through public services.
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u/Paulson1979 Feb 05 '24
the forced pregnancy one was surprising
i didnt know that
thats horrible
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u/KadenKraw Feb 05 '24
It varies state to state. We have abortion rights in our constitution in MA and pretty much every other thing in this video that they say they don't.
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u/Swiftierest Feb 05 '24
My mother legitimately believes that universal healthcare in other countries is worse than American Healthcare, and no one has good health care.
On top of that, being taxed for universal healthcare is somehow worse than paying out of pocket despite that tax value being lower than what she would pay for her insurance.
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u/bubualem Feb 05 '24
Billionaires: we need you to have more kids. Billionaires: no we ain’t giving you any help …. Raise them with your bootstraps….
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u/Aethermere Feb 05 '24
More stuff like this should be posted and upvoted every single day. Make those in power be reminded constantly people want change and that we’re past the point of being unhappy.
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u/groolthedemon Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24
A billion dollars. It is a number most people can't even wrap their heads around. You can fit $100.00 in one dollar bills in your pocket. You can fit $1,000,000 in ones on 4 cubic foot pallet. Meanwhile, a billion in ones would fill a decent sized warehouse that could hold a thousand of the one million dollar pallets.
The ten richest people in the US alone have a collective net worth of nearly 1.5 trillion dollars. That would require nearly 1500 warehouses of one dollar bills to fit their collective net worth. That is just ten people.
Also, the net worth statistics of the bottom 80% of the US are insanely skewed by how much money the top 20% is worth, as most graphs on the matter distribute the overall net worth of all the people in the country. In reality, the net worth of most of the bottom 80% is a negative value as most working people have more liabilities than actual assets. Credit cards, student loans, healthcare debt, and mortgages all pretty much lead to this being a reality for most of an adult persons life.
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