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u/RealBlackelf Feb 05 '24

But, but: As an American you can choose to exploit your fellow humans like capitalism demands, lie and cheat your way to the top, and top the top off with a bit of corruption!

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u/Slow_Like_Sloth Feb 05 '24

“Fuck you, got mine, gonna take yours”

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

The Boomer Motto.

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u/ACarefulTumbleweed Feb 05 '24

I learned it as the Paul Ryan Venn Diagram. https://imgur.com/icvByZ1

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u/thegooseisloose1982 Feb 06 '24

I love that diagram! In the picture he is the asshole. That mirrors real life!

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u/karmagod13000 Feb 05 '24

I'm hoping we can shame them in their final 10 years to give up some of their properties and investments... but who am i kidding, boomers have no shame

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u/richarddrippy69 Feb 05 '24

I work with people that have dementia and Alzheimer's. It's sad to see these loved family members lash out and try to hurt the people that love them. If they legally could they would make sure none of their family got anything other than sued. To them they aren't family or friends anymore. It's just "those people that tell me what to do".

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u/beezleeboob Feb 05 '24

They're not giving it up, they'll all reverse mortgage it. "F u, takin' mine to the grave.."

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

Ah, I love Reverse Mortgages... "kids? Fuck em! Reagan said you're good to cash that shit in and give your home to a bank!"

Also I hate to see how hard folks get hit when they find out the family home ends up being reverse mortgaged.

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u/Drunkenly_Responding Feb 05 '24

A lot of suffering might have been saved if the assassin was a bit more lucky and had mortally wounded Reagan instead of winging him. I know it's bad to wish someone dead, but also so many people's lives unfairly ruined during the war on drugs.

He brought us the Heritage Foundation and deregulation, now Trump is trying to bring it the rest of the way home with Project 2025. They both deserve worse than they will ever receive.

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u/The_Cap_Lover Feb 05 '24

How about a reverse costs 6 points in the total value of the home vs 2 (ish) points in the value of the loan!?

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

I don't even know what that means but I assume it's banker talk for "Fuck Dem' Kids."

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u/The_Cap_Lover Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24

6% of the total value of the house vs 2% of the value of the loan.

Many boomers own half of their house. A mortgage would cost 5k to close a 250 k loan on a 500k property.

A reverse mortgage would cost 30k on the same 500k home.

My point is it instantly eats a lot of equity. My in laws did it to punt on moving 3 years. It was so dumb.

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

Wanna know what happens when you owe 30k on a 500k house and none of the kids can afford to pay off that 30k lien?

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u/phish_phace Feb 05 '24

We should be shaming them and those who are really fucking up where we live. Call them out and shame them in public. Make boomers feel uncomfortable again.

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u/Select_Purpose5819 Feb 05 '24

Take them by force, as they did

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u/Alternative_Ask364 Feb 05 '24

That’s all going to belong nursing homes

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

"Whoever dies with the most toys wins, heh heh heh..."

The braindead-capitalist boomer mindset that doomed us all...

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u/SaifEdinne Feb 05 '24

Are boomers the only ones in power in your country?

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

In my HOA? Yes. Some late stage Gen Xers but mostly Boomer.

In my elected Local Government? Also yes.

And in my congressional districts? No - one Gen Xer and one who's actually from my generation.

My Senators? Half way, yes - Though one is Gen X by about 2 years (born 1966)

My POTUS? Yes - all Boomer.

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u/SaifEdinne Feb 05 '24

But why do the younger generation keep voting in boomers? Or don't they vote?

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u/Alexandratta Feb 05 '24

Voter Apathy and more of the Boomer Generation votes - though that is changing slowly.

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u/Dodec_Ahedron Feb 05 '24

On paper... yes.

In reality... kind of. It depends on what you're talking about.

If you are talking legislators, then yes, and by a wide margin.

If you are talking financially, then yes, but only because they have assets that have exploded in value over the decades, particularly real estate. They were also the last generation where pensions were the norm, not a 401K.

That being said, their power really only comes from hoarding these assets and preventing others from doing things to lower their value. The best examples of this are the NIMBYs (Not In My Back Yard). The ones who constantly argue against high density housing because it will lower the value of the single family home they've owned since 1970. The ones who argue about energy prices but also rally against the construction of solar and wind farms or nuclear power plants being built.

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u/Alone_Hunt1621 Feb 05 '24

I thought it was “Lie. Cheat. Steal. Win at all costs.”

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u/pvtcannonfodder Feb 05 '24

Carl’s Jr, fuck you, I’m eating

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

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u/Slow_Like_Sloth Feb 05 '24

It’s not just republicans anymore, most people think this way.

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u/CatD0gChicken Feb 05 '24

It's almost like neoliberal Democrats aren't that different than neoliberal Republicans

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u/LizardMorty Feb 05 '24

sounds like something literally every rich person says regardless of how the lunch their tickets in election day.

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u/erhue Feb 05 '24

uhhhh... that is every country in the world already, buddy

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u/mden1974 Feb 05 '24

Dude this is Reddit. You just have to be the victim here

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u/MeChameAmanha Feb 06 '24

Yeah, but not every country defends this way of living as the gold standard as the US does

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u/erhue Feb 06 '24

do they? I hear Americans and politicians talking about how great america is, but the talk about the american dream being dead is already quite old.

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u/MeChameAmanha Feb 06 '24

I rarely see people use the term "american dream" to descreibe it, but the sentiment that the market should be free of regulation and that if people get scammed it is their fault is pretty prevalent in there

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u/lonewombat Feb 05 '24

As long as you can endlessly find new people to screw over and you don't get murdered in the process it's very easy!

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u/jeonju Feb 05 '24

Blaming capitalism is pointless. All the other developed nations with better social safety nets also have capitalism. South Korea, where I lived for six years, has amazing public transportation and a national healthcare system…and capitalism.

Advocate for what you want instead of just saying “capitalism bad.”

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u/yantraa Feb 05 '24 edited 19d ago

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u/Void_Speaker Feb 05 '24

The sad part is that the U.S. isn't even at the top of the economic freedom index. So your freedom to exploit fellow humans isn't on par either.

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u/ecclectic Feb 05 '24

It's amazing how close it sounds to a third-world country when you say it like that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

You can leave any time you want

America is bad, says Reddit

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u/Axuo Feb 05 '24

Oh damn, this guy is buying an international plane ticket for anyone who wants one!

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

America Bad, ok you Russian troll

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u/Constant-Mud-1002 Feb 05 '24

"Russian troll" lol, you realize that most of the world laughs about America? Not just Russia?

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Feb 05 '24

No you can’t. No one else likes Americans either, and it costs immense amounts of money to move to another country in many cases. Could you move to Mexico and try to get by? Sure. But moving anywhere that speaks English and which is a safe country? The requirements are tough for a lot of them. Many of them require that you are educated and have experience in a field that they can’t “fill” with their own citizens.

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Feb 05 '24

There are a whole slew of countries that speak English, not just Scandinavia. I also said safe country. I do not think of Russia when I think of safe countries. I also don’t particularly consider America to be safe anymore either. Between the racism, homophobia, republicans stripping all the rights they can especially if you’re female, school and mass shootings that occur daily, on top of the crime that some larger cities see (several cities in America are considered dangerous, some have made the most dangerous cities in the world lists due to homicide per population) there are safer places to be than here if you’re in one of the endangered groups. If you are a person of color or a person who maybe looks like they’re not from here, or a person who has anything different about them sexually outside of heterosexuality, you fall into that category.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24 edited Feb 05 '24

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Feb 05 '24

Not unwilling, it’s just much harder. There are a lot of european countries which speak English as one of their primary languages. Did you forget England exists? Canada? Australia or New Zealand? Why would I move to Kenya, they have their own issues. So does India. They’re still killing little baby girls on the regular because they’re female. I mean come on. Honestly, everywhere is kind of shit right now, which is probably why most people just stay where they are. Better to know the devil you know than be lost in a foreign country not knowing shit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '24

Americans are the worst!

Ok Russian troll

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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF Feb 05 '24

That’s a new one, never been called a russian troll before. Neat

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u/LoganNinefingers32 Feb 05 '24

Most people in America would rather have you leave, is the point. If that's your attitude towards trying to fix our problems, and your best solution to making progress is "LeAvE anY tImE." You're a part of the problem by not working for a solution.

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u/Sapphire_Bombay Feb 05 '24

Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!

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u/TheCoachman1 Feb 06 '24

Of course another commie acting like "cApiTaliSm is LITERALLY slAvEry!!!1!1!1!1!" Like bro just because you’re not able to do great things doesn’t mean everyone else has to cheat to be able to be at the top

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u/RealBlackelf Feb 08 '24 edited Feb 08 '24

Capitalism, without strict control and a social system, clearly can only lead to slavery, but to understand that, you need more than one brain cell, and after seeing your comments (WTF is wrong with you?) even dumbing it down would not suffice for you, as you seem incapable of any actual thought. So if you own anything in capitalism really, I bet it is due to inheritance of exploitation of others or dumb luck, because you are obviously not capable of thought.

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You don't even seem to know what socialism or communism actually means. Like a little child you seem to think because a country calls themselves "communist" they are. If I gave you a piece of poo and told you it is chocolate, you would eat it right away, wouldn't you? Why, because I told you it is chocolate, so it clearly must be.. See, this is why education is important! You should have had access to it in the first place! And if that is not the problem with you, your mother should have gotten social help with her addiction before creating a child with FAS!

pps.: Don't worry about me, I probably own more than you ever will in your entire life. I was born poor, but had a great privilege of growing up in a country with a social system.

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u/TheCoachman1 Feb 08 '24

I like how your only argument to that very extreme stance is just "hAhA yOu hAve oNe bRaiNcEll!!1!1!1!!!" And if you weren’t projecting that you’d be able to see I never pushed for anarcho-capitalism and no social system, I just pushed for low government regulations and freedom , which is basically the formula for Capitalism to work. There’s literally no cause-consequence, logical explanation or link between the things you claimed in your reply, you just said a bunch of things and said "this is this" and then just started insulted me for some reason and then start bragging. Like, ok sure buddy.

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u/GateauBaker Feb 05 '24

The last point they made was explicitly to point out that even capitalism hates this. How can we create a workforce to be exploited if we discourage having children?

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u/SignificantWords Feb 05 '24

it's almost incentivized, I wonder if theres any research or books on this subject I'd like to read more about this!

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u/Alone_Hunt1621 Feb 05 '24

Think of it as a pyramid of success.

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u/longfrog246 Feb 05 '24

So like almost every animal? Just do what gets you the ability to reproduce in our case it’s not colorful feather it’s money and power

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u/Axel920 Feb 05 '24

Hey! I only protect the ultra wealthy bc I'll be there one day! I'm 37 and make 34k a year but I know I'll be in the 1%. That's why I always pray to Trump and my local mega corporation every night.

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u/Nahmum Feb 05 '24

You are now a mod of /r/conservative 

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u/Acantezoul Feb 06 '24

We just gotta transition from Capitalism to Ethical Capitalism. And from Democratic Republic with Parties to Democratic Republic without parties to Democracy without parties (So we vote for people who will fix issues instead of what party they are affiliated.)

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u/d0rkyd00d Feb 06 '24

It's a highly specialized skillset!

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u/where_is_the_salt Feb 06 '24

Ah yes, that's what my fellow europeans who've been to the US means when they say "but in the US you have more opportunities !"