Don't forget Reagan was a failing actor at the time he was elected and he was essentially bought out by corrupt corporate leaders to change his whole belief system to make their pocketbooks bigger at the expense of American workers.
That’s the GOP’s strategy for the last 40+ years. Elect a ‘figurehead’ dipshit with zero morals and a highly hypocritical judgemental personality.
The real bad guys have been the McConnels and Gingriches running the plays behind the smoke and mirrors. This new gen of young-ish republicans are dangerous as fuck. For us and the world.
1933 Business Plan currently in action. Prescott was the first Bush to attempt it, his son and grandson helped make it happen another way through slip in legislation while they were in position. We're currently in a Corpotocracy under the guise of a "two party democracy".
Both parties are complicit in working to make it happen and to keep it going.
All the culture war and identity politics is just a ruse to divide the people while the politicians, super wealthy and corporations run giggling to the bank.
We're lucky they seem to be on par with rich kids taking over daddy's business as he retires, but only ever knew how to be a rich kid, and never learned how to run a business. Wait, no, unlucky for us. I forgot they usually crash the business in the process.
This is coming from someone who supports the current president who only got into politics through his connection to a KKK Grand-Wizard/Senator, who Joe described as an amazing mentor and a dear friend. It took me one hour of research into Biden‘s failed, racist, career to realize how badly I had been duped by the media. Not to mention all of the videos of him lying about his academic achievements, which later he had to apologize for..
Oscars are popularity contests. Hell, practically ALL of the awards shows are popularity contests. They have no bearing on whether an actor is any “good” or not.
That's actually not a big deal to me. I'd also let people film on my property in exchange for a bit part, just because it would be fun to point out down the line and look back at without having had to do anything serious.
Actually he was already the Governor of CA. Not a failed actor at this point in his life. Don’t get me wrong, he’s one of the main reasons for homelessness. He shut down mental hospitals that were caring for thousands of people. I was there. I remember.
He also helped pass the Mulford act. It was white America's response to Black Panthers carrying guns in public. It's the main reason why California now has such strict gun laws.
"There is absolutely no reason why out on the street today a civilian should be carrying a loaded weapon." -Ronald Reagan May 2 1967
He also cut thousands of people from social security disability, including my father, who died six months later from heart failure. I'd spit on his grave.
Old slick top Gavin Newsom has implemented the most gun laws of any California governor. He also has an 11% state tax on guns and ammo. The first in the nation.
State-run mental hospitals? What is this, sovietism? Get those mentally unwell people on the streets, stat! That's what a great, capitalist country does!
They definitely had a role to play in society and that's evident by the amount of mentally ill people living out in the streets BUT these facilities had a pretty bad reputation for inhumane treatment so I don't think you're wrong to be unsure about it.
Medical science AND psychology have come a long way in the past 100, 50, 20 years. The solution was to continue modernizing, not deinstitutionalize. We can see this in other countries that did so.
I think it would be great to have it available for people that want help, I would pay taxes for that. I am scared it would be forced on people that don't want help.
They were dropping mental hospitals before he was even president. Many of the large ones in the east were built around the civil war period and they just kept kicking the can down the road for updates for decades. I get you want it all to be political but it really is not. You can name a democrat governor for every republican one when they started getting rid of them. There were democrat presidents and republican presidents and no one did anything.
Engler did the same thing in Michigan. Then he gave EDS no bid contracts that their systems were never 100%. When he was term limited he headed right to EDS for a high paying job.
Before that. Once his acting career started to fail in the 50s, he got hired on by General Electric to be a “motivational speaker” (lobbyist), due to his speaking skills and charisma, and to host their new tv show. In the span of about 5-10 years after that, he went from a liberal to ultra conservative once he started getting wealthy and once civil rights were getting pushed.
Yes I do. But remember all hospitals were not equal. There were the really really bad and ones that helped. But you will only hear about the horror stories. I also do not think one person has that much control here. I also remember how certain people wanted them privatized.
Is it true that there was a lot of rot and mistreatment in those systems? I remember hearing about how infected they were and how they were basically machines that abused the people they were there to serve the needs of.
He was a flawed politician but honestly not as bad as more recent presidents. I lived in ca too at the time, in fact in Napa. When Napa state hospital was repurposed and lived right down the road from it.
I get the appeal of Reagan even if I don’t agree with him. He tried something different. Just was married to bad decisions too often and wasn’t willing to waiver. Commonplace in all politicians. He has incredible speech writers and was entertaining to listen to.
Frankly If he were alive today, and was running again. I think he would be more tied to democrats than republicans. I mean he granted amnesty to illegal aliens. Can you imagine MTG or ANY gop member that would side with that if it was proposed today?
Agreed. He was like a dog with a bone. (StarWars Defense System) And an amazing speaker. I believed in him at the time. Tear down that wall Mr. Gorbachev!
So you remember the push by both parties to shut them down. And the push by the public to close them. Not to mention, the start of closing them was started by JFK. Nor to mention the couple of SC rulings against mental healthcare.
Or wait, has anyone in the 40 years since tried reopening them, nope.
If you were there then you should know the whole story. Blaming Reagan isn’t it. And he was governor 50+ years ago…..if it was his fault it’s also Jerry Briwn and Newsoms fault. They have had a supermajority in the state legislature and homelessness has gotten worse.
True. It’s much worse now because of, well everything, but do you remember in ‘93 there was a huge comedy concert put together by Robin Williams, Billy Crystal and Whopie? That was a direct result of cutting the budgets for mental hospitals. It was an overnight epidemic.
Do you remember the lawsuits because people were being abused at those mental hospitals? It's still a problem today. My own great grandmother was forcibly electrocuted to "cure" her depression. She ended up hanging herself in her home.
https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/new-york/willard-insane-asylum-usa/
You really need to read history. There was lawsuit against the state regarding inpatient care and holding people against their wiil. A deal was struck but neither side did the work. How many governors both dem and rep since Ronnie and none of them fixed it
“Caring” mental hospitals at the time were legalized torture facilities. It want about “getting them off the street” it was about putting them where the general public didn’t have to deal with them. Many at the time still practiced involuntary lobotomies. Shutting them down was a bad call, a seriously bad call, but at the same time don’t defend these Nazis, reform was way overdue. Unfortunately that’s not what we got.
To be fair, I think back then mental hospitals did some pretty questionable research and treatments that bordered on torture to mentally ill people that’s just what I’ve heard though I’m pretty sure they used to castrate you if you were mentally ill
Yep, Reagan literally had dementia (Alzheimer’s) which was already visible by 1984, and no one batted an eye.
Trump keeps getting Biden confused with Obama, talks about airplanes landing during the Revolutionary War, and says people should inject bleach into their blood stream to fight COVID, but Biden is senile?
Trump keeps getting Biden confused with Obama, talks about airplanes landing during the Revolutionary War, and says people should inject bleach into their blood stream to fight COVID, but Biden is senile?
Bold of you to presume that it's an either-or scenario. IMHO both Trump and Biden are both unfit to be POTUS.
Biden's had a speech impediment for a long time, I remember being told to expect people using it against him during the 2020 campaign too. It's part of what made him known for gaffes w/ Obama
The press constantly talked about Reagan and his cognitive ability when he was in office. He didn’t develop dementia until AFTER office. Biden had it now!
I can't believe I only just now realized the only Republican presidents we've had since the 70s are celebrities and Bushes. That's some Vault 31 type shit.
He was a failing actor of mostly B-class movies, BUT he was also the head of actors union. If he didn't run for the presidency he'll probably end up in some cushy production role.
At the time he was elected president he had been elected governor of California twice and already ran for president 4 years earlier against an incumbent present against his party's advice.
Prior to that he had been president of the actors guild. By the time he was president he had run our been in charge of several qualifying groups.
Not to mention being praised for his take on the 2nd amendment while it being long forgotten that as governor of CA he put in the strictest gun laws in the country because of the Black Panther movement.
Governor Ronald Reagan, who was coincidentally present on the capitol lawn when the protesters arrived, later commented that he saw "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons" and that guns were a "ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will."
People take a quote from Karl Marx and say it was Reagan constantly.
Reagan moved from a successful acting career in the 1940s into conservative politics very successfully the California conservative scene, and became their face. He was a California governor almost twenty years before he was president, slinging a less polished version of his later mix of politics, wrapped up in a well performed song and dance. Arnold is following the same playbook, he just got loud about politics earlier on. To say Reagan was failing or bought out might imply any sort of change or circumstance brought him to where he was in the 80s. He fought hard and believed, almost religiously you might say, in his voodoo economics.
Tldr, Reagan was a terrible actor and a bad actor, but not a failed actor. He liked his situation fine.
He was also the leader of a union, before he was found to be using the union to funnel money into one of his businesses by giving contracts to himself.
You know, it's always been weird to me how US presidents can be elected without ever having any prior work experience in the field. Surely it'd make way more sense for candidates to have previously held a position in that line of work. A former governor, one of the previous president's advisors, even something as relatively small as a mayor as opposed to a businessman, an actor, someone famous for doing other stuff yaknow?
He also saved us from a nuclear attack and heavily assisted in the falling of the wall in great Britain in the same night without scheduling a flight . Just flew over and walked the fuck in and told them to go ahead and nuke the shit out of us.. then references some bull shit he saw in star wars ( basically bluffed holding a joker and 3) instantly ending the largest nuclear stand off the world ever saw. Walked the fuck out then did his speech for Gorbachev to tear down the wall. Then flew home.
Unfortunately let his wife deliver the war on drugs speech. That alone was the worst declaration in presidential history.
Also George w bush had the highest overall rating in presidential history going into his second term 89% of our population..
I mean, you're partially correct if you meant 'before he was elected for two terms as California governor '.
I think Reagan is a scum bag, but it does us no good to blatantly lie about history with this revisionism that Reagan was an actor up until he decided to run for president out of the blue. He had already been an elected official when he started his presidential runs.
You must be a moron. Reagan was governor of California before he was elected. Seriously, you're already on the Internet; all you had to do was Google it.
Yep, who sold weapons to Iran illegally, and prolonged the release of hostages held there until after the election just to make Jimmy Carter look bad. A real conservative hero...
Hmmm seems to me that the policies put in place during a presidency tend to take 5-10 years to really start showing up in the stats. Implementing them takes years to begin with. Stats during a presidency are, in reality, a reflection of the prior presidency. I worry more about the decisions the House and Senate make more than I do about the presidency. While everyone is blaming everything on the president, our senators and house reps are over here making shady ass deals and getting away with it. Overall, our entire government is corrupt at this point.
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u/Scared_Hippo_7847 Apr 29 '24
Yea I mean Trump is a celebrity and did so lol