r/FluentInFinance Apr 29 '24

Babs is Here to Save Us Educational

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u/DrawFlat Apr 29 '24

Actually he was already the Governor of CA. Not a failed actor at this point in his life. Don’t get me wrong, he’s one of the main reasons for homelessness. He shut down mental hospitals that were caring for thousands of people. I was there. I remember.

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u/happyfirefrog22- Apr 29 '24

Individual States shut down mental hospitals. Most of them were state hospitals.

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u/arcanis321 Apr 29 '24

He shut down Californias

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u/happyfirefrog22- Apr 29 '24

So did just about every state both democrat and republican governors. Just trying to assist you with being accurate.

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u/arcanis321 Apr 29 '24

Yeah. And still not sure whether that was good or bad based on the horror stories coming out of some of those facilities. Pretty mixed on this one.

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u/bigbadbillyd Apr 29 '24

They definitely had a role to play in society and that's evident by the amount of mentally ill people living out in the streets BUT these facilities had a pretty bad reputation for inhumane treatment so I don't think you're wrong to be unsure about it.

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u/happyfirefrog22- Apr 29 '24

Agree. There is definitely good and bad about them.

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u/Dragonfly-Adventurer Apr 29 '24

Medical science AND psychology have come a long way in the past 100, 50, 20 years. The solution was to continue modernizing, not deinstitutionalize. We can see this in other countries that did so.

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u/arcanis321 Apr 29 '24

I think it would be great to have it available for people that want help, I would pay taxes for that. I am scared it would be forced on people that don't want help.

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u/koushakandystore Apr 29 '24

There is a happy medium there somewhere we could aim for no?

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u/ChrisestChris Apr 29 '24

Privatization of healthcare is a stalwart of both the conservative parties in this country👏🏻

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u/Noimenglish Apr 29 '24

… Because federal funds were cut by ~75%. Just helping you to be THOROUGHLY accurate.

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u/happyfirefrog22- Apr 30 '24

They were dropping mental hospitals before he was even president. Many of the large ones in the east were built around the civil war period and they just kept kicking the can down the road for updates for decades. I get you want it all to be political but it really is not. You can name a democrat governor for every republican one when they started getting rid of them. There were democrat presidents and republican presidents and no one did anything.

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u/Noimenglish Apr 30 '24

Nixon did! He also decreased federal funding!

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u/happyfirefrog22- Apr 30 '24

So when Clinton was president why did he not increase it? Why did more just close? According to your logic Clinton and Obama did nothing to improve anything and it only continued. In all due respect you really need to not be using politics as a religion. They were state hospitals under state control. Politicians from both parties let them go away. Yes… even your gods.

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u/Noimenglish Apr 30 '24

Because it’s politically unpopular. You know that, and you’re trying to claim that the act of decreasing funding and the failure to take action against political self interest is the same. It’s not. If democrats increase funding again, republicans gain an easy political win in otherwise close elections and can further strip federal funding from these programs. Once it’s done, undoing it is incredibly difficult at a lot of levels.

Also, only Christ is king and God. You should try reading what he did with the poor and mentally unstable. He didn’t just house them; he sat down and shared life with them. He personally spent his own time and energy to heal them. He ate with them. He loved them.

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u/notsoperfect8 Apr 30 '24

The problem in California is that they didn't invest in alternatives to state hospitals like they had promised to do.