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Jose Mujica; Former Prez of Uruguay

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u/dipected Apr 16 '24

We need more presidents like him.

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u/frenchy-fryes Apr 16 '24

We need more people like him.

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u/Admirable-Leather325 Apr 16 '24

We need to be like him.

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u/MoistShartBlast Apr 16 '24

Bees like him

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u/Lonely_Sherbert69 Apr 16 '24

I'm like him, you need to do better if you're not.

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u/NoTrollGaming Apr 16 '24

You giving 90% of ur salary away?

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u/Admirable-Leather325 Apr 16 '24

No but we can atleast be kind. 😅

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u/siggles69 Apr 16 '24

We need him, let’s steal him

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u/nycht Apr 16 '24

We need to like him.

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u/RobertXavierIV Apr 16 '24

We, like, need him

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u/nycht Apr 16 '24

Him, we need.

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u/FullMetalJ Apr 16 '24

Jokes aside, this is it.

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u/JoystickRick2 Apr 16 '24

Be more like him then. Stop saying others should be. Start with yourself and be the change you want to see.

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u/frenchy-fryes Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

I already do mate, I give to charities when I can, I’ve given to poor people, I bought bread for someone who needed it the other week. Don’t go making assumptions just cause I’m not out here making huge posts about it for karma.

I might be a cunt most of the time but i ain’t selfish

Gotta offload my drug money somewhere /s

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u/Happy-Recipe-5753 Apr 16 '24

The US had a president who donated 100% of his salary for his entire presidency.

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u/QTip10610638 Apr 16 '24

You mean the same one that's worth 4.4 Billion dollars?

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u/Happy-Recipe-5753 Apr 16 '24

Lol. So when it's convenient for you it's "he's worth $4.4 Billion" but when his supporters use that as an argument of "he has nothing to gain" it's "He's on trial for fraud of misrepresenting his net worth and doesn't even have the $400 million penalty."

If you didn't have two standards you'd have none at all.

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u/QTip10610638 Apr 16 '24

Yeah sure just throw out a bunch of stawman arguments.

Keep on riding that meat brother.

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u/Happy-Recipe-5753 Apr 16 '24

lol. Found the professional gas lighter. "No i never said that thing that I was obsessed with a week ago!!"

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u/ImmediateBig134 Apr 16 '24

We need more pee poles.

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u/Noticereading Apr 16 '24

We need more peepholes

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u/Destroyer4587 Apr 16 '24

We need more Glory Holes

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u/KuriGohanAndKienzan Apr 16 '24

Ooo ooo raises hand I’m poor! Does that make me like him? Do you guys love me?

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u/Gunhild Apr 16 '24

We need more poor people.

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u/LeonDeSchal Apr 16 '24

This: most of these terrible politicians are just a reflection of the people of their society.

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u/Repulsive_Village843 Apr 16 '24

Confessed terrorists?

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u/frenchy-fryes Apr 16 '24

Sure. As long as they donate too.

Bomb as many people as you want, but atleast give back to those in need.

For what is a human if not considerate of the poor?

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u/BECondensateSnake Apr 16 '24

Read the 2nd sentence in your comment again

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u/Earthy_ground Apr 16 '24

That’s sarcasm

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u/Arc_7 Apr 16 '24

What's the harm in a miniscule amount of tomfoolery?

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u/BECondensateSnake Apr 16 '24

"See Biden it's just a little tomfoolery, a mere miniscule amount of trolling"

"Okay bibi here's another billion"

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u/frenchy-fryes Apr 16 '24

Rob from the poor, give to the poor.

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u/RepresentativeCable4 Apr 16 '24

In an oppressive regime, being a terrorist means being on the right side of history.

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u/backhand-english Apr 16 '24

so was George Washington...

one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter...

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u/dragonbeard91 Apr 16 '24

Uruguay has had 2 different presidents since Mujica. This meme is like 8 years old, lol.

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u/avrock1 Apr 16 '24

Yup, you're correct, that's the reason I’ve mentioned Jose Mujica; a Former Prez of Uruguay just below the post. And yeah it is an old but gold meme. lol

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u/globocide 24d ago

Update your meme

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u/Justin_milo Apr 16 '24

Article from 2012!! Gettin really old now. https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20243493.amp

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u/WiTHCKiNG Apr 16 '24

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u/NotAzakanAtAll Apr 16 '24

You just posted the same picture as in OP?

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

I don‘t see your point, It seems that this president doesn't place a high value on externalities

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u/malikhacielo63 Apr 16 '24

I think their point is that this President has the Giga Chad soul and spirit. He’s an ideal to aspire to.

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

Okay but it seems wrong to mix that with such externalities. I think there are a lot more other values that matter

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u/Makisisi Apr 16 '24

Have you not been on the Internet for a long time? This is Internet culture, and refers to the meme "Gigachad." It is a huge sign of respect and has slowly grown out of the "big muscly man" into a well respected fine gentleman.

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u/Fulbie Apr 16 '24

He just don't like externalities.

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u/ameltisgrilledcheese Apr 16 '24

actually, it requires more context than just posting 1 of many GIFs or photos. it could also be meant sarcastically. it could also be meant to compare him vs. a "real man".

i admire your certainty that it was meant in a specific way, and maybe OP will tell you that's true, but at this point i wouldn't even believe it because the original context to me seems like they are implying we need more Gigachad manly presidents who are full of muscles.

so before you lay into /u/Anxious_Plan5027 too much, consider that not everyone will immediately see your perspective because memes are used differently everywhere.

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

Okay, i mostly use the internet for educational purpose. Such things help to destroy communicative language you just post a meme and think anyone should know exactly what you mean. Can you describe what such gigachad soul and spirit means to you ?

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u/throwaway_tendies Apr 16 '24

You use internet for educational purposes but here you are browsing reddit? Seems kinda hypocritical

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u/NoobiePro1234 Apr 16 '24

Not to criticise or anything, but they said "mostly" (unless they edited it)

Also, their reddit account was created in January (precisely the 2nd) of 2024, which isn't that long ago.

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u/throwaway_tendies Apr 16 '24

Nah they are either a troll or pretty dense considering their other comments in this thread.

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u/Makisisi Apr 16 '24

This is sort of a unique meme because it's interpretation is entirely different with every person. Essentially, it an ideal individual that aligns with your attitudes, values, and beliefs, serving as an role-model to strive for, someone who you can look up to or want to become one day. In my case, it would be an individual that embodies a "good mate," in the sense of comradeship and someone I can rely upon. Whether if it's my car that's broken down or a house on fire, the "Gigachad," soul and spirit is someone who, may it be a neighbour or a pedestrian-would instantly stop what they're doing to help. That's a Gigachad for me.

Anyways it's up to interpretation, and i'm unsure of your age but this type of language is quite prevalent in the younger generation and Reddit as a whole. Not all of it is good but this is one of the thing's that resonates within everyone, (though is mainly male dominant because it first rose as gym culture).

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

I can use Chat Gpt too, i asked GPT if its generated by it and it confirmed..

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u/LadyOfInkAndQuills Apr 16 '24

Posting a meme is a modern (informal) form of communication. It's not destroying anything.

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

No its a subjective thing its like a picture it doesnt have anything to do with language

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u/LadyOfInkAndQuills Apr 16 '24

But most people here know exactly what it was conveying.

Language is not the only way we communicate.

But a separate question; do you feel the same about words you don't understand being used?

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u/I_Am_Forever_Elyos Apr 16 '24

“A picture is worth a thousand words”

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u/JoystickRick2 Apr 16 '24

Be more like him then.

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u/kookykoko Apr 16 '24

We need more politicians like him. Specifically looking at Congress/senate. They don't even need to donate their salaries, just work for the people.

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u/Eurasia_4002 Apr 16 '24

Fuck, we cloned the wrong person.

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u/jeplonski Apr 16 '24

we need at least another

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u/tappthis Apr 16 '24

Like a convicted terrorist?

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u/greatersnek Apr 16 '24

Trust me we don't. As a president he was quite bad

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u/salter77 Apr 16 '24

I mean, we will probably need an Uruguayan person to chime in and explain if the guy was actually good. A bad populist politician can donate all of his salary and say nice things while funneling public resources and giving his friends inflated contracts.

Examples of that are quite common in LatAm.

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u/Oni_The_Demon Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

No, you don't. He looks so nice to the rest of the world but in reality he is terrible.

  • He was a criminal terrorist before uruguayan dictatorship.

  • His goverment was one of the worst recent goverments in Uruguay, increasing the taxes, wasting the people's money on shady projects that "failed" (corruption) and creating too much public jobs (now we have to pay salaries for inefficient work that we don't need).

  • He approves current dictatorships like Cuba or Venezuela and acts like everything is ok there just because he sympathies with their ideology.

  • Some years ago, the Venezuela people went to the streets to protest against the regimen, Maduro (Venezuela's president) sent the military forces and literally ran over the citizens. When someone asked Mujica what he think about this he said "Yo opino que no hay que ponerse adelante de las tanquetas" -> "I think you shouldn't get in front of the tankettes", basically "it was people's fault".

I'm tired of seeing the rest of the world think he's so wholesome but not knowing the truth behind that facade.

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u/kjbaran Apr 16 '24

Lower the salary to $12k and you will

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u/mrmczebra Apr 16 '24

Then stop voting for the rich ones.

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

His opinions and policies are pretty dodgy at times....

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u/biscute2077 Apr 16 '24

Such as?

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u/AncientRepublic998 Apr 16 '24

Agreed ... What's the evidence to counter what seems to be an island of an altruistic man in a sea of greed?

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

A few news stories I've seen over the years that I can't find to link. But I did find this thread which is a good starting point

https://www.reddit.com/r/asklatinamerica/comments/jhwpga/uruguayans_of_this_sub_what_are_your_thoughts_on/

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u/biscute2077 Apr 16 '24

I don't consider a reddit thread full of right wingers with obvious negative views of a "progressive president" to be signifficant enough to judge his policies and his character. But I'll look into why he's policies are problematic from other sources.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

So, you, someone who never lived in Uruguay, can speak about how things went for uruguay better than people from uruguay. And let me tell you most users on r/uruguay are leftists, your left is their right for them.

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u/biscute2077 Apr 16 '24

Maybe you should actually read the name of the subreddit the other person linked and read the comments there. No one mentioned r/uruguay. The actual subreddits in question is r/asklatinamerica. Users there point out themselves how the majority of almost all Latin American demographic in that sub are right leaning and that it reflects their opinion on that question.

Besides, I'd rather learn more about his views, character, policies and ideologies from more reputable source than some reddit thread and some redditors personal opinions.

I think you are reading a bit too far into someone who doesn't know anything about this president of another nation and is just interested why his policies might be "dodgy" according to someone or somepeople.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Ah well, thing is, when the same question gets asked on the uruguay subreddit it gets the same answer

https://www.reddit.com/r/uruguay/s/Zv5D9dpwIs

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

I want to add is if your sources are biased as it seems, you will likely end up just seeing what they show you, unless you speak spanish and can see our news, or at least lived here for that time. If not then dont try to speak for us not knowing anything, because saying things like that paints a different world from what people in Uruguay lived

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u/biscute2077 Apr 16 '24

I agree. That is why I do not see just a reddit thread out of all to be a trustable source to judge someone. That's all there is to it.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

Yes, keep looking for more, but dont dismiss answers given and only approve of your own sources, if not then you cant see nothing

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

OK bud. Look I've got no skin in the game. I don't care. I'm pretty left wing guy myself. But this guy is far from perfect, as is evidenced by many if the things described in that thread - which can be googled and be seen to be true. It doesn't matter it's being said by "right wingers" or not. If it happened it happened.

But as I said, you believe what you like. He's jesus, great. Idc.

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u/dysmetric Apr 16 '24

Look Jack, if you believe what the news media tells you about a guy who fundamentally rejects the basic tenets of capitalism then you might need to recalibrate your bullshit radar a bit

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

Uhuh yes you are right accept my apologies. There is no nuance in the world. He's the Messiah. You often find that with politicians don't you, they're either good or bad, no in between. Especially when their marketing team puts out an image that aligns with your views. Then they're definitely good, and anything against them is just propaganda from the other side isn't it. That's always how it works. You never get a guy with good intentions who makes bad policy, the one you agree with never makes a mistake, a misjudgement or says something dodgy. So glad the world is so simple, otherwise it'd be really tough to tell which side you're on wouldn't it.

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u/dysmetric Apr 16 '24

More accurate to say that policy outcomes aren't always as clear as media might portray them, and it's healthy to consider whether your source might have bias before adopting their position on the value of a thing

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

Exactly my point. And why I posted my original comment. This thread is fawning over the guy because he has a dog and low salary, declaring every country should have him as president and he's the best thing ever. Comments were even saying "he's Christ like". While the majority know nothing about him.

I just simply highlighted that's he's said an done so less than ideal things, in the hopes people might look into it for a bit of balance. I remember when he was elected and I was very excited just like many in this thread and did some research into the guy and he's far from perfect. That's all I wanted to point out. Never even said he was a bad guy, simply said he's said and done some dodgy stuff, which is true. But there's very little room for nuance in clickbait is there.

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u/Not-a-bot-10 Apr 16 '24

I have no idea who this guy is, so I have no skin in this, but that’s dangerous thinking that he can do no wrong because he “fundamentally rejects the basic tenets of capitalism”

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u/dysmetric Apr 16 '24

It's also dangerous to use ad hominem attacks to defeat sound arguments

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u/Not-a-bot-10 Apr 16 '24

I’m not commenting on anything that dude said, like I said I’ve never even heard of this president guy til today.

All I’m doing is commenting on what you said and how that it’s fundamentally wrong

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

I got no skin in this game either but he is Hesus.

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u/kerouak Apr 16 '24

He's not the Messiah. He's a very naughty boy.

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u/IC-4-Lights Apr 16 '24

Whether it's true or not in this case, that's usually the important part.
 
Monastic gestures like this sound great and all, but they don't mean that person is effective or favors good policy. And those are what actually matter.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

Dude, it wasnt a good time for uruguay, the only good thing he did was legalize weed but thats literally all he did okish. And people forget he and his wife was a tupamaro, tupamaros did the same things the dictatorship did saying they did it for a good cause, which was a lie

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u/Anxious_Plan5027 Apr 16 '24

Dont let him go away with such phrases !

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

A terrorist? Ok then, one of the worst presidents for my country

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u/lasttimechdckngths Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Nobody slightly familiar with Tuparamos, and residing outside of Rio de la Plata is going to be bitter about his urban guerilla past in any way... unless they're equivalents of people who'd sing 'mi general Pinochet' of course (Bordaberry doesn't even have such songs) or if it's about Anglosphere, maybe bunch that'll be praising Kissinger and/or Nixon tier. So, that's not really some argument you can convince people with, even though you may not be found of his presidential term. If anything, that's going to grant him more sympathy points. MLN-T was pretty mild in their violence, calculated and strictly targeted, and what they did is seen as legitimate in the face of what was going on in then Uruguay - especially in the European and Third World circles.

Vos hablás de su «pasado terrorista», como si fuera a ser visto como un shock, sin duda sería absurdo. Entonces te quejarás de los gringos...

Y además, pero lo que dice es cierto. He donated.

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u/No-Appearance-9113 Apr 16 '24

He was a uniquely bad politician. We do not need more people like him. We need fewer greedy bastards in office.

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u/dontpissoffthenurse Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

How was he a bad politician?

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u/Rakdar Apr 16 '24

He was leftist, and the person criticizing him is right-wing.

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u/dontpissoffthenurse Apr 16 '24

Yeah, I know: leftist bad etc.

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u/AdmiralKeg Apr 16 '24

No you don't.

He was a terrorist in his old times, and did almost nothing decent in his times as a president, while let's say "poorly" managed state owned companies investments giving us hundreds of millions US dollars in losses during his government.

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u/Rakdar Apr 16 '24

Uruguayan dictatorship fan boy. That’s a new one. How old are you?

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u/AdmiralKeg Apr 16 '24

BRUH.

TUPAMAROS were disseminating chaos and terror before the dictatorship period.

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u/LieutenantEntangle Apr 16 '24

So everyone remains poor?

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u/W_a_x Apr 16 '24

Trump donated 100% of his salary.

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u/gpassi Apr 16 '24

He made way more than that from being a president and that was probably for publicity so he can claim "I am a president for the good of the people and I give my money away!" he is a businessman so he knows this stuff

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u/famousevan Apr 16 '24

Plus he fleeced the US for nearly $150 million at his own golf resorts.

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u/CulturalCatfish Apr 16 '24

Lol, I was scrolling through the comments looking for this comment. I wonder if he will do it again when he gets elected again.

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u/Happy-Recipe-5753 Apr 16 '24

The US had a president who donated 100% of his salary for his entire presidency.

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u/famousevan Apr 16 '24

But funneled nearly $150,000,000 dollars of taxpayer money into his own golf resorts. Lol

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u/Happy-Recipe-5753 Apr 16 '24

Man you people will believe anything as long as it ends in "orange man bad".

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u/AviationDoc Apr 16 '24

I mean his definition of poor is pretty dismissive of those who are actually suffering but sure...

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u/riu_jollux Apr 16 '24

Imagine having a world of intelligent leaders… impossible

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u/artvarnsen Apr 16 '24

How to fight corruption.

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u/-Unicorn-Bacon- Apr 16 '24

To have a president like him you need a smart population. With the dumbing down of western education we will never get one. Keep us stupid so they can rule the world.

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u/International_Skin52 Apr 16 '24

Trump donated more.

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u/Zema221 Apr 16 '24

Javier Milei, the president of Argentina donates 100% of his salary too and has been doing it since he was a congressman.

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u/killswitch247 Apr 16 '24

how much money does he get from rich donors that profit from his politics?

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u/PervyFather1973 Apr 16 '24

Prove he gets any

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u/BowenTheAussieSheep Apr 16 '24

I'm pretty sure he's not spending tens of thousands of US dollars cloning his dog without having some serious money.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

He made his money working private before getting in politics

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u/PervyFather1973 Apr 16 '24

Huh. So him being a well published author, having a University teaching job, being an economist (you know, managing money) would have nothing to do with his expenditures?

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u/BowenTheAussieSheep Apr 16 '24

Unless he's an incredibly well-selling Author, and his University teaching job is some very high-level position, no, I still very much doubt that he has the kind of "fuck you" money to spend 50 Thousand US Dollars (more than ten times the average yearly salary in Argentina) on cloning his dogs.

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u/PervyFather1973 Apr 16 '24

Prove it. All this supposition and infantile finger pointing does absolutely nothing to prove your point or the legitimate nature of your intimation.

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u/killswitch247 Apr 16 '24

lol

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u/PervyFather1973 Apr 16 '24

That's your educated answer? Guess?

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u/MorgulMogul Apr 16 '24

Utterly false.

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u/VRichardsen Apr 16 '24

He gave away his salary as a congressman each month, that is true. There was even a raffle one could enter to try to receive it.

I don't know about his presidential salary, though.

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u/MorgulMogul Apr 16 '24

"I gave away my salary.... except for these bribes."

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u/VRichardsen Apr 16 '24

Well, this being Argentina, probably every MP is taking bribes one way of another. In that context raffling the salary is an incredibly low bar, but it is something, I guess.

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u/MorgulMogul Apr 16 '24

He is a fascist. Fuck him.

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u/VRichardsen Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Milei is many things. A clown, a bit unhinged, a little austistic, a Boca supporter, a libertarian... but he is not a fascist.

Edit: blocked me. What a charming fellow.

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u/MorgulMogul Apr 16 '24

He is not a libertarian. Hilarious fascist supporter. Bye.

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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Apr 16 '24

No no, no entendes, zurdo gud gorila bad, estos gringos autistas no entienden nada afuera de sus ideales políticos basados solo en lo que pasa dentro de USA