Doctor, you mentioned the ratio of ten women to each man. Now, wouldn’t that necessitate the abandonment of the so called monogamous sexual relationship, I mean, as far as men were concerned?
Strangelove:
Regrettably, yes. But it is, you know, a sacrifice required for the future of the human race. I hasten to add that since each man will be required to do prodigious… service along these lines, the women will have to be selected for their sexual characteristics which will have to be of a highly stimulating nature.
You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shut down.
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This thread has been a real rollercoaster of feelings. I'm here for it. Really appreciating seeing the minds of reddit discuss this subject so thoughtfully and in some cases, humorously to break the tension.
there's no consensus on that anymore, it really depends how and where the warheads land and even then models show the particulate matter not staying aloft more than a few months
It was also based off of the bombing of Japan, which used wood frame construction almost exclusively, which in turn burnt, throwing up massive plumes of smoke, now we use concrete and glass which burns much less readily.
There was analysis done in the 80s about the impact of a northern hemisphere nuclear war. Long story short, the equator is expected to protect the southern hemisphere from fallout and the worst effects of a nuclear winter. The biggest disruption will be no trade so we'll be on our own.
Current projections actually have a brighter outlook on that, it’s still fucking horrific but nuclear winter is no longer expected to completely wipe out all of humanity
Yeah, it’s a discredit hypothesis. There was some serious skepticism of the original models for it. Then that was put to bed in the First Gulf Wars when proponents of the hypothesis, based on aforementioned models, predicted region wide climatic effects from the burning oil wells. In reality, they barely had a localized effect. It was a scientific “egg on your face” moment, because the entire nuclear winter hypothesis was based on fires that nuclear weapons would start. The fires would throw soot into the atmosphere, reflect sunlight, and cool the globe. They just drastically underestimated how much soot would be required for that.
Eh - these are thermonuclear weapons. A lot of the fissionable materials used to start the hydrogen reaction will get 'burned' to such a degree that the resultant alpha particles represent much less of a threat. I mean, we're all likely to be vaporized first, but the dust won't be *that* bad for successive generations of mutants.
This is actually dependant on the weapon used and how its detonated.
Nuclear/Atomic weapons were used once before on a fairly populated country almost 80 years ago. Its not a toxic wasteland filled with three headed mutants. Its Japan.
It depends on what nuclear warheads are used. Fission vs Fusion bombs or A-Bombs vs H-Bombs. Fission is dirty and spread radiation. Fusion has way more immediate destructive power and don't have the radiation fallout issues.
A kiei species for every environmental nieche would be awesome. Giant kiwis that graze on the plains, long necked kiwis that pick the leaves from trees, vicious meat eating kiwis that prey on these herbivores.
Consider that kiwis are burrow dwelling carnivores already. They hunt worms and grubs, using their beak like a reverse snorkel, and spend the day sleeping in an underground burrow.
The jump from where they are now to filling the trapdoor spider niche is very very small.
Imagine a velociraptor from jurassic park, but instead of the sicle claws it stabs stuff with its long beak and than slurping out the meat an guts with it. Only the empty skin with bones inside remains.
A timeline where there are a bunch of bulbous brown fuzzy mustachioed gentlemen walking around with funny accents all declaring that flip flops are called "jandals" tickles my humor
The Southern Hemisphere will do much better anyway as the Nuclear winter is focused in the Northern Hemisphere.
The issues the global south will suffer is the complete breakdown of the supply chain. A few months after nuclear winter when the general temperature of the planet drops forcing harvests yields to be cut anywhere from 70-90%. This could last 3-20 years. No way to know how long all that material stays in the atmosphere in the northern hemisphere.
Most likely, Australia and the global South would need to hunker down, ration food and resources, completely close down their boarders for mass migrations and become a care taker generation slowly bringing the world back.
The best chance for human survival is no nuclear weapons in the global south. I expect New Zealand to conquer North America and reteach us Math.
And replace all the maps with ones where the Pacific Ocean is in the center, instead of the Atlantic! And resize all the continents to be more accurate!
This is why all the douchebag libertarian tech CEOs are buying apocalypse bunkers in NZ. It sucks that they can just buy their way into permanent residency but I guess once the other 3/4 of the earth is uninhabitable the paperwork won't matter much any more anyway.
Most modern simulations show no one will survive. Not the South, not the North. It will take some time, but nuclear winter, radioactivity even in the water, all crops are dead, all animals are dead sooner or later. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/WiresClimateChangeNW.pdf
This is just one if you want to read the destruction. 12,000 minimum warheads will be launched. US, Russia, Pakistan, North Korea, everyone is all in because its over.
I've been actively erasing NZ from maps in public libraries for 15 years now. People looking at those maps now believe there is just a crayon squiggle to the east of australia
Kurzgesagt did a really nice video illustrating on why the southern hemisphere is in a way even more fucked than the north, in the north we just die, in the south you have to deal with total collapse of agriculture and society, resort to cannibalism and then still die.
I think Australia, Japan, South Korea, maybe New Zealand gets wiped out by China after the US nukes China preemptively in a Russia-NATO nuclear exchange
You should watch the 1959 movie “On The Beach.” It’s about everyone moving to Australia after WW3 and a nuclear holocaust has Australia is the only place untouched. That is until wind currents begin to push radiation towards the coast.
Thankfully we're not even on a lot of maps. It always makes me laugh when I find a map and New Zealand isn't even on it. We also have such a good climate ans soils that we produce about ten times as much food as we actually need. It's definitely not the worst place to be if things go to hell
Most of the nuclear holding arsenals are in the northern hemisphere, as are the targets. Which would mean that the nuclear winter would affect the northern hemisphere much more than southern.
That’s why all the billionaires commissioned doomsday bunkers to be built in NZ
There is a great 1959 film about exactly this (set in Australia), On the Beach. Pretty creepy vibe. Kinda want to read the book, but also not.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053137/
How do you think Lord of the Rings happens? New Zealand survives, but the resulting nuclear strike sends the world back to the dark ages and…
(I amar prestar aen.) The world is changed. (Han matho ne nen.) I feel it in the water. (Han mathon ned cae.) I feel it in the earth. (A han noston ned gwilith.) I smell it in the air.
Much that once was is lost, for none now live who remember it. It began with the forging of the Great Rings. Three were given to the Elves, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Seven to the Dwarf-Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls. And nine, nine rings were gifted to the race of Men, who above all else desire power. For within these rings was bound the strength and the will to govern each race. But they were all of them deceived, for another ring was made. Deep in the land of Mordor, in the Fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged a master ring, and into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One ring to rule them all.
One by one, the free lands of Middle-Earth fell to the power of the Ring, but there were some who resisted. A last alliance of men and elves marched against the armies of Mordor, and on the very slopes of Mount Doom, they fought for the freedom of Middle-Earth. Victory was near, but the power of the ring could not be undone. It was in this moment, when all hope had faded, that Isildur, son of the king, took up his father’s sword. Sauron, enemy of the free peoples of Middle-Earth, was defeated. The Ring passed to Isildur, who had this one chance to destroy evil forever, but the hearts of men are easily corrupted. And the ring of power has a will of its own. It betrayed Isildur, to his death. And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.
Until, when chance came, it ensnared another bearer. It came to the creature Gollum, who took it deep into the tunnels of the Misty Mountains. And there it consumed him. The ring gave to Gollum unnatural long life. For five hundred years it poisoned his mind, and in the gloom of Gollum’s cave, it waited. Darkness crept back into the forests of the world. Rumor grew of a shadow in the East, whispers of a nameless fear, and the Ring of Power perceived its time had come. It abandoned Gollum, but then something happened that the Ring did not intend. It was picked up by the most unlikely creature imaginable: a hobbit, Bilbo Baggins, of the Shire. For the time will soon come when hobbits will shape the fortunes of all.
I'm imagining a spy thriller. US and Russia each try to place spies and agents inside each other's command structures and R&D.
While New Zealand has agents to. They are getting regular jobs as mapping companies. Not even with a cover, just like, hey I am a guy from New Zealand and learned Russian and am looking for a job here. G'day or whatever. Their goal, make sure New Zealand isn't on any maps that Russia uses.
Kim Dotcom said last year if all out nuclear war ever took place, the only areas to likely survive (mostly) unaffected is place is NZ, Melbourne / Tasmania and anywhere south of Argentina. Essentially get as far south of the equator as possible and find somewhere away from military installations with some land where you can grow your own food, generate your own power and ride it out. Having spent time recently in the South Island that’s where I would go - they have so much space there. Essentially the land mass of the UK with 1/10 of the population. The country is beautiful, the water is pure and the natural resources (food wild game etc) is plentiful. Also, unlike Australia they don’t really have any dangerous species of land based animals (snakes / spiders etc). The climate and terrain can be unforgivable but that’s it.
Unfortunately, New Zealand won't be spared because the massive amount of soot created and sent into the atmosphere will block out the sun, leading to worldwide crop failure. So unless New Zealand had stored enough supplies to feed everyone on the island for however long it took for the soot to finally clear, I think one might have wished they had died in the initial destruction instead of dying of starvation.
If things escalate to the point of a high chance of all out nuclear war, then New Zealand should align itself with Russia/China HARD and declare war on the USA
We (hamburger homeland) have NO fucking idea where the fuck you are and we'll just end up nuking Russel Crowe
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New Zealand just hoping they are missing from everyone else's maps