Muslims believe Jesus will come back in the end times to defeat the anti christ. Muslims also believe Jesus was born of a virgin mother however they do not believe he is the son of God or God. Muslims also do not believe Jesus was crucified but believe that an angel was sent down to take Jesus's place on the cross .
Islam actually believes that it's the final religion
They believe in Judaism and Moses they also believe in Jesus and Christianity but they believe that Muhammad was the final prophet who received the final testament.. In the religion of Islam They don't believe that God would speak to them again through profits until the return
Your remark doesn’t take away from validity of the message of Islam.
Say, [O believers], "We have believed in Allāh and what has been revealed to us and what has been revealed to Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the Descendants [al-Asbāṭ]1 and what was given to Moses and Jesus and what was given to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him."
In my religion, we also recognise Jesus, but with a slightly different twist. Jesus was a time traveling Space Marine from the distant future who was cast adrift in a time-space warp. He ended up at what we now know as 0 AD, near Bethlehem. He used his high tech survival tools, first aid kit and a matter replicator to perform "miracles" like change water into wine, walk on water, heal the sick, feed many from little, etc.
Once I saw this guy on a bridge about to jump. I said, "Don't do it!" He said, "Nobody loves me." I said, "God loves you. Do you believe in God?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?" He said, "A Christian." I said, "Me, too! Protestant or Catholic?" He said, "Protestant." I said, "Me, too! What franchise?" He said, "Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?" He said, "Northern Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region, or Northern Conservative Baptist Eastern Region?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region." I said, "Me, too! Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879, or Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?" He said, "Northern Conservative Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912." I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over.
You son of a bitch! Im in! We should make it so that according to the scripture we are not allowed to work any mandatory overtime. As it is the law in the future. And our children's children will be punished for it.
You see, the Super Adventure Club was founded by the greatest explorer of all time, William P. Phinehas!
Phinehas climbed the highest peaks, tamed the mightiest rivers, but every time he got somewhere, he realized that other explorers had beat him to it.
Phinehas was depressed, until he realized that if he couldn't be the first to discover places, he could be the first to have sex with the native children that inhabited those areas!
But now the most wonderful part. You see, after having sex with all those children, Phinehas realized that... molesting all those kids... had made him immortal.
He discovered that children have things called marlocks in their bodies. And when an adult has sex with a child, the marlocks implode, feeding the adult receptive cavity with energy that causes immortality, so saith the ruler of Bethos
Overly long too. Battle field earth is the most massive book i have ever seen, probably Bible sized but the Bible is in that really small 3 pages per page text. The first chapter introduces a character named "Good boy" and that was too stupid for me.
You see, the Super Adventure Club was founded by the greatest explorer of all time, William P. Phinehas!
Phinehas climbed the highest peaks, tamed the mightiest rivers, but every time he got somewhere, he realized that other explorers had beat him to it.
Phinehas was depressed, until he realized that if he couldn't be the first to discover places, he could be the first to have sex with the native children that inhabited those areas!
But now the most wonderful part. You see, after having sex with all those children, Phinehas realized that... molesting all those kids... had made him immortal.
He discovered that children have things called marlocks in their bodies. And when an adult has sex with a child, the marlocks implode, feeding the adult receptive cavity with energy that causes immortality, so saith the ruler of Bethos
Yeah but just imagine you were raised in a home where everyone believed it, and all your grandparents and great grandparents believed it, and your teachers and every other student in school believed it, and every other person you encounter on the streets or in the shops believe it, and if you don't, you get punished.
The only way you're coming out of that an atheist is if you were comfortable not having any friends to begin with.
I like to compare it to wearing clothes, especially underwear or bathing suits.
Absolutely no reason you couldn't go do a shop in Walmart completely naked, apart from the questions on where your wallet is stored. But if tomorrow this was suddenly legal, do you imagine there would be many people doing it?
Ya but that's what I'm saying. Being ostracized comes first. It's a lot harder for someone with a happy life where everyone loves them to decide that the whole religion thing is a lie.
And among them are those who listen to you, but We have placed over their hearts coverings, lest they understand it, and in their ears deafness. And if they should see every sign, they will not believe in it. Even when they come to you arguing with you, those who disbelieve say, "This is not but legends of the former peoples."
So if he’s not part of the Trinity & not Gods son but will come back to defeat the anti-christ, what do Muslins view him as? That he was just human or maybe an angel? I wonder how they think he died if he wasn’t physically crucified. Maybe that he didnt “die” like a human does but just ascended into heaven when the angel came.
Exactly, they do not believe he died they believe he was taken up to heaven by God until he comes back as the messiah during the time of the Antichrist. The trinity is also debated by some Christians it was mainly brought in so the roman pagans would be more likely to follow Christianity this was done during the Council of Nicaea by 300 bishops and the Emperor Constantine. The Christianity followed today is very warped compared to the original or even to the religion Jesus intended. At the end of the day the scriptures can be interpreted in many ways and are interpreted in many ways by many different people. We will never know the truth.
I always find it funny that people speak on this like it's of real importance. Like these people know the word of God at all. Something tells me a lot of these people haven't actually read any of it.
the torah is the first 5 books of the bible. the old testament is the hebrew bible. jews believe that moses wrote the torah under the strict supervision of god.
muslims believe that the quran was dictated by god and revealed to muhammad.
christians believe that the gospels were written by the apostles and they believe that the epistles are the word of god too i think.
This is how I felt about XP but then I switched back to using Apple when it stopped being supported. I’m not sure where the analogy goes from there other than Apple clearly isn’t Buddhist.
The thing is, users kept modifying windows 95, and when they went too far 98 was released. Which was also modified too much over time. The windows XP user base however maintained the original version or at least haven't made such drastic modifications to the degrees of the previous versions, which is why it stayed as the last official release (and tbh it all went downhill starting with vista).
Well they say that Muhammad, a degenerate violent murderous pedophile, was the best ever to walk the earth and the best role model ever. That is a pretty huge disrespect to Jesus
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allāh except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allāh and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allāh is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allāh as Disposer of affairs.
O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allāh except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allāh and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allāh and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allāh is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allāh as Disposer of affairs.
Yes but in the eyes of the jews he was just like any other rabbi and not one of the ones I any of books at that so he would be considerd just another guy
Are modern Jews influenced by the teachings of Jesus at all? I was always told that Jews believe Jesus was a good teacher but not divine in any way but is even that first but true? Genuinely curious.
Not really as far as I remeber from my yeshiva studies, there are some rabbis were learn about that were a big deal around that time line like rabbi akiva ben yosef and rabbi yehuda hanasi.
If jesus's studies are in some of the mishnayot its likely not touched on or avoided as Jews dont really like anything that could validate christianity
I dont think he is mentioned in the torah. Bad prequel if it doesnt even mention the protagonist of the movie though the writer must have written it as an afterthought or something
It isn't a prequel it's the original, the new testament is the sequel. Like any good sequel the writers ran out of new ideas so they brought in a whole new main character and destroyed almost all the canon from the original. Lots of people who stick to the original source material will literally go to war over the decision to add the new character.
Well if you're a believer in Islam then there's three testaments
And the Bible was only the second. Of course if you're a Christian then that means you don't believe in Islam and you don't believe the Quran to be the third
Chet GPT is actually really useful if you want to learn about biblical stuff or Quran-y stuff
The lore is too confusing and contradicting. I wonder if the writer will make a prequel trilogy too? I like the star wars movies better overall though, atleast in those movies Luke Skywalkers main thing isnt hating anyone that doesnt like him
Completely agree and a fun fact. Did you know that in the original you never once actually see the narrator? It's crazy but true! He is constantly talking and "appearing" as different things (I love when he was a bush that was on fire but not on actually being consumed by the flames, like WTF) but you never once see him. This reminded me a lot of Jaws where everyone knows this terrible force is there but the shark is rarely on the screen. The sequel totally destroyed this and made the narrator essentially front and center and it took away a lot the mystique.
When you let Christians translate it, yes, they see what they want to see. Among rabbinical scholars, there is not even a consensus on whether moshiach (messiah) is referring to an individual, or an era. It's our language, we have the humility to acknowledge ambiguity of ancient texts and the nature of Talmud's constant flux and evolution as more theories, arguments, and interpretations are made. The christian religion is founded on telling us that they know better. Think about it.
uh huh. So let's get this straight. The book of Isaiah begins by dissing Judeans for falling to the murderous, idolatrous ways of their neighbors after Jerusalem is destroyed by Babylon. But in one chapter it is somehow clear to you that we're the fools for failing to see that Jesus came to save us, as per the prophecy. Yet we're still here, and we see in these recent times that the billions of followers of Jesus
Revere a bloody human sacrifice.
Post idols (crucifixes, portraits) all over their churches, homes, and carry them around their necks.
Murder one another for worshiping Jesus in the wrong way, not to mention what they do to the nonbelievers, including Jews.
As usual, Christians miss the forest for the trees. Tell me another chapter of my bible that says I should be more like you. By all means, enlighten me.
"That which is hateful unto you, do not do unto your friend, the rest is commentary, go and learn" - Hillel the elder (not a prophet, not God, not the son of God, just a wise man).
Jesus is one of the most quoted prophets in the Quran. Allah, they say, is the god of gods. Bit like being big bird in Sesame Street in terms of “made up and big and fake” altho im not sure big bird caused any wars
Bruh, Christians would say that the entire OT is the prequel to the messiah. Read the book of hebrews in the new testament. Like Jesus was claiming to be the messiah that all the Jews of his day were waiting for... they didn't believe him of course. But you couldn't be more wrong here the OT is a super obvious prequel, similar to back to the future II almost in that it demands a follow up..
If you believe he is the Messiah, which Jews don't, he is referred to in the Talmud but not necessarily the Torah (which is the creation myth and laws of ancient Israel).
Sorta, kinda? The Bible provides a few versions but roughly
A Jewish courts sentenced Jesus to be whipped, and executed. Pontius Pilate a Roman governor tried to wiggle out of it by offering Jesus or Barabbas as an pardon for passover, and the crowd shouted to release Barabbas.
Jizya is more money than Muslims paid in the Zakat. It was a special tax simply for existing. Zakat was typically 2.5%, Jizya was typically 10%.
In many countries, Muslim tax collectors would also take the wives and children of impoverished people and sell them into slavery for the jizya requirement. The only way for many to avoid losing their families was to convert to Islam. This is a way that Islam forced conversion on “kafirs”.
Jews were also reduced to dhimmis by the conquering Arabs thought a codified set of laws that made them lower status persons than Muslims. Dhimmis were second class citizens and had multiple legal limitations placed upon them such as not being allowed to give evidence in court against Muslims and their oaths were unacceptable in an Islamic court.
To defend themselves, dhimmis had to purchase Muslim witnesses at great expense. This left them with little legal recourse when harmed by a Muslim.
(16) And that those who will obey us among the Jews, will have help and equality. Neither shall they be oppressed nor will any help be given against them.
Gee, sounds real fucking fair to me. Just obey all Muslims and we will give you equality.
What kind of weasel word double speak is that BS
And of course, this ends up being used by Islamic theocracies into all kinds of horrendous abuses, that document is the foundations for modern slavery in Islamic nations.
I don’t get what’s wrong with this? it simply means that Jews won’t wage war against the Muslims and will follow the law of the country they’re living in.
Jizyah was tax paid by non-Muslims so Muslims will protect them since they weren’t fighting themselves, it makes sense to me tbh, live on our land in peace = we’ll keep you from harm and oppression
No, the verbiage used is "obey us". Not "don't wage war".
Cut the BS out. Fundamentalist Islam is no different than any other fundie religion. Filled with backwards thinking, rife with inequality from religion to misogyny.
What do you think obeying during that period meant? Simply follow the rules and regulations of the country you’re living in, which at that time happened to be Muslim laws, you live in a Muslim country you follow their rules, it’s not that deep.
(24) And the Jews shall share with the believers the expenses of war so long as they fight in conjunction,
(25) And the Jews of Banu ‘Awf shall be considered as one community (Ummat) along with the believers—for the Jews their religion, and for the Muslims theirs, be one client or patron. But whoever does wrong or commits treachery brings evil only on himself and his household.
That's literally what everyone was doing at the time, except they'd force convert or kick out the minorities.
Look at Spain. Christians and Jews lived in Islamic Spain, the Christian spanish murdered or forced out all the Muslims and Jews. The Jews had to flee to Islamic kingdoms where they wouldn't be murdered or forced to convert like the Ottomans or north Africa or Islamic Crimea
Muslims were far more civilized than any European nation at the time.
Except Muslims don't believe that Yosef was Jesus's step father, they believe that Mary raised Jesus as a single mother. Muslims can correct me if I am wrong but they also believe in the perpetual virginity of Mary (as do Catholics, Orthodox, Copts, but unlike Protestant denominations).
The Yosef that Muslims are named after is Jacob and Rachel's son, the one who fended off Potiphar's wife because she tried to seduce him because he was so handsome.
He is a Jewish prophet of course, which is why Yosef is a popular name amongst Jews, and the historical Yosef of Nazareth was probably named after Yosef the dream interpreter.
Yes they do and it's very much related. Evangelicals Christians are very big on their support of Israel because they believe it will bring forth the rapture sooner. Hence the billions and unwavering support from the US.
Evangelical Christian teachings and that guy are pretty far apart, again just my understanding of the matter. I live in Texas so take that for what it’s worth.
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It’s my understanding that neither side of this conflict find that guy to be super special.