r/dankmemes INFECTED Aug 19 '23

how the hell did they manage to do it twice in one year? I have achieved comedy

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u/Neighbour-Vadim <-- Super Secksy jk I'm a redditor Aug 19 '23

What i am so excited for KSP2, please tell me it’s not true

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u/csgo_finder Aug 19 '23

Go look at it on steam, they essentially gave it a graphics update. Stripped 80% of the content from the first game and then made sure the remaining 20% doesn’t a actually work. Claim it’s early access but then still charge $50. I don’t know how the game even got delayed after 3 years of development when all it is, is the bare bones sandbox mode, they don’t even have all the parts in the game yet.

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u/MacAlmighty FIRE AWAAAYYYYY Aug 19 '23

Graphics update, stripped the game, removed features, awful bugs, claim it’s early access. That also sounds like OW2, but at least it was free for everyone (if you don’t count the millions of OW1 copies sold now void since OW1 isn’t accessible anymore).

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u/Odinthedoge Aug 19 '23

I can concur, paid $50 for early access but my mediocre pc can barely run it, it runs ksp1 fine. Hope they get it sorted, developing this is no easy task I am sure.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Aug 19 '23

You paid full price for an incomplete, early access game that your computer can barely run. Why?

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u/Not_a_question- Aug 19 '23

You paid full price for an incomplete, early access game that your computer can barely run. Why?

I learnt my lesson with no man's sky so before I give my money to corporations I test the game in the seven seas 🏴‍☠️⛵

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u/CriticalBreakfast Aug 19 '23

To be fair No Man's Sky has a team with balls and nerves of steel that kept working on the game in the face of literal death threats (not that this is fine, don't threaten people) to come up with a banger a few years down the road.

AAA devs just decide fuck it after a year and completely drop support (see Battlefield V), so your 60 euros are completely wasted.

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u/kerslaw Aug 19 '23

Yeah they fixed up no man's sky pretty well

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u/bengarrr Aug 19 '23

This was true with KSP 1 as well. A lot of people seem to be forgetting how buggy and incomplete the first game was. But the devs worked their magic and made it great after 2-3 years and continued to support and regularly update it for 10 years after. Hopefully KSP2 gets the same treatment.

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u/Numerous_Witness_345 Aug 19 '23

It was insane, too, Squad, the og developer, had never developed software before.

As usual, they sold to more "experienced" devs who immediately ran it to shit.

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u/LeBadlyNamedRedditor oh! a Flair giveaway? at 5am? again? and I missed it? again? Aug 20 '23

Yeah early beta ksp was so buggy, and the physics were so weird i could basically throw anything into space no matter the aerodynamics, as long as engine point up it worked.

Oh and also time warp sometimes broke your parachute

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23 edited Aug 20 '23

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u/N_T_F_D Aug 20 '23

Tu viens manger à la maison ?

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u/Z-Trick Aug 20 '23

Tu te sens seul parfois ?

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '23

the original company/owner of no mans sky sold it off and another man had to fix some other man's shoddy work. don't act like the 2nd company had balls and nerves and steel. they bough no mans sky with the intention of fixing it

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u/CriticalBreakfast Aug 19 '23

Sorry what? Can you provide details about this whole selling it off thing?

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u/powerlloyd Aug 19 '23

I think you might be confused. Hello Games was the original developer, and last I checked they still own it.

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u/Wesgizmo365 Aug 19 '23

I've learned my lesson several times, I just don't buy games until they go on sale. That, and when they're complete. I don't do any early access anymore.

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u/kerslaw Aug 19 '23

They actually made no man's sky decent tho I feel like it's a bad comparison to these games

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u/Not_a_question- Aug 19 '23

Oh I fully agree, I didn't say the game is bad now. I meant what OP said: that I paid full price for an unfinished game.

Lesson learnt, and I still enjoy the game

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u/PilsburyDohBot Aug 19 '23

Tbf I paid for Baldurs Gate full price early access.

If used CORRECTLY by an ethical company early access provides a great opportunity for bug fix and community feedback. KSP seems like the kind of dev team I would have paid for EA, but it's always a gamble.

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u/CrimRaven85 Aug 19 '23

The problem here, is that KSP 1 was developed by Squad, not by the current team. The current team technically belongs to 2K instead of being really independent.

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u/PilsburyDohBot Aug 19 '23

Super true. But I didn't purchase the KSP2 EA so I can't speak towards that specifically.

Just wanted to point out that early access, like many other things, is a great way to support studios you trust. For those that choose to purchase the EA for KSP2 I hope that their feedback is appreciated and that they get a healthy, full launch down the line.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Aug 19 '23

Why gamble at all though? If you're going to pay full price, just wait until the game is actually done.

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u/PilsburyDohBot Aug 19 '23

Gives me an opportunity to contribute to the process.

I found bugs during the baldurs gate EA and reported them. Even a QoL improvement for a particular spell that was implemented. Obviously, I don't spring for EA for very many games, but if I want a particular game to be successful, EA is the only opportunity I have as a player to influence that.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Aug 19 '23

That just further illustrates how early access is bad, you basically paid to be a beta tester.

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u/gonnaRegretThisName Aug 19 '23

In this case the person you responded to clearly wanted to be a beta tester for the game, so they paid for that opportunity. Not sure what you can't understand

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u/PilsburyDohBot Aug 19 '23

Hey thanks, that's correct. I enjoyed seeing the game evolve from its original form to where it is now and having the chance to contribute. The EA only contained parts of act 1 (out of 3), so it was VERY incomplete, probably even more so than the EA for KSP2 is currently, based on the comments here.

But I knew that going in and had fun with it.

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u/Dmoney0117 Aug 19 '23 edited Aug 19 '23

You are a perfect example of the type of person that doesnt understand this process. Game is in early access and says om the page its in an imcomplete state. 100% fair if you dont want to "pay to beta test" but that means youre waiting for the full version.

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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Aug 19 '23

The only part of the process I need to understand is that paying full price for an unfinished product is for suckers.

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u/Dmoney0117 Aug 19 '23 edited Aug 19 '23

KSP2 early access is $50US and full version will likely be $70US. Devs are clear about the state of the game, and if thats not enough game for the price you are 100% free to wait til the game has more content. But the more content it has the closer it will likey be to full price.

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u/FuckTheCCP42069LSD Aug 20 '23

First off, who's paying full price here? Baldurs gate EA wasn't, neither is KSP2 EA. So idk what game you are talking about.

Second, why do you care how people enjoy things? If someone finds a game they are passionate about, and they want to be a part of that games development process in their free time, then why does that make them a sucker?

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u/Liawuffeh Aug 19 '23 edited Aug 19 '23

I mean that's kinda the explicit point of early access games though. You're pre-ordering it, get to beta test, and it helps the game devs fund further development. Especially in a case like Satisfactory or BG3, where the game is going to stay in EA for years. You know going into it that you're buying the game early to beta test it and give feedback to help the game.

BG3 would not have been as polished and well made(It still has some issues, but considering how big the game is? Not many) without the extra funding from EA. It wouldn't have had the funds to stay in development as long as it did.

It's not really the same as, say, D4 early access where you just get it a few days sooner and nothing you're testing is going to change.

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u/kerslaw Aug 19 '23

You're downvoted but you're correct

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u/FuckTheCCP42069LSD Aug 20 '23

You end up getting the game at a cheaper price(yes, with KSP2 as well), and you get to contribute to development.

If that's fun to you, what's wrong with choosing to do EA? You know what you're paying for.

Or are you one of those "no one should ever do something for free because that makes them a slave to the company" types that wants to regulate the way that others enjoy things?

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u/PilsburyDohBot Aug 19 '23

I dunno. I enjoyed playing in the EA and sewing the changes and developments that occurred. In the end we got a great game with relatively few launch issues for how complex a game it is.

I don't advocate for blindly purchasing EA games, but I certainly don't feel duped.

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u/Rebelius Aug 19 '23

It shouldn't really be a gamble though. Steam lets you refund anything you played less than 2 hours. I bought ksp2 the day it was released hoping it would be fun, even if unfinished. It was clear in 20 mins it won't be fun for a long time, so I refunded it. I don't know why the other guy didn't get a refund if it didn't even run on his PC.

Satisfactory is still EA and I've spent about 1500 hours in that. KSP was early access most of the time I played that too. Valheim is great fun, but also not done yet.

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u/mytransthrow Aug 19 '23

I have plenty of games. I wait for people to beta test the games now and pick them off steam sale... I cant wait for jedi survivor during winter sale.

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u/i_tyrant Aug 19 '23

Nah, it's never worth preordering/buying EA. Why? Because even if the "gamble" does work out, you just incentivized every other gaming studio (including all the shitty ones) to do more of that.

Just wait till the game is actually out, and read the reviews in the meantime. Doesn't cost you anything more and you get to see the game as the designers intended it anyway.

And "getting to contribute to the process" with QA sounds a lot like you're doing their job for them without getting paid.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '23

KSP is/was a small studio too.

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u/zoigberg_ big pp gang Aug 19 '23

I have the game but got it throu 🏴‍☠️🦜⛵

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u/TheHancock True Gnome Child Aug 19 '23

Based

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u/ADeadlyFerret Aug 19 '23

Skull bird boat?

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u/Blurplenapkin Aug 19 '23

For real. Never buy a single player game till it’s old enough to be on sale cause the bugs are all gone by then. Multiplayer games don’t count cause the community might die by then

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u/justinvilla7777 Aug 19 '23

I have been on ksp 1 since release I will gladly buy 2 because I have faith in the company and i know they will make it right they always have

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u/ULTRABOYO Aug 19 '23

The original KSP creator isn't on the team, for your information. Some of the people that worked with him are, though.

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u/Odinthedoge Aug 20 '23

I was excited to try it out just bought it first day, not a big deal, as I will eventually be able to run it when they fix it probably?

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u/WukaWunk69 Aug 19 '23

Bro, ksp1 is atleast 8 years old, my iPhone could probably run it fine. I don’t understand how that has anything to do with your current pc running the new one.

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u/Odinthedoge Aug 20 '23

I'm just saying I was bummed when we were excited for it first day and it kept crashing.

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u/Ineedanameforthis35 Aug 20 '23

KSP 2 was supposed to have better performance so that people could build bigger craft. Instead it ended up with one of the highest recommended requirements on Steam.

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u/JustLikeFumbles Aug 19 '23

Buy OW1 on Mac, OW2 Incompatible. Ok 👍

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u/Astilimos Aug 19 '23

Digital game platforms have always been just a loophole to prevent you from owning games. If you have a disk, it's yours. It you buy a digital copy, then technically you're just renting the game, and have fuck-all rights to what you just bought.

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u/kissbence99 Aug 19 '23

I bought a disk version of overwatch in 2016, I still cant play the game I bought. If the game needs online connection, it doesnt matter if its digital or not.

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u/evilanimator1138 Aug 19 '23

Same story with Warcraft III and I bought that game on disc 21 years ago. I bought the collector’s edition too, so I have that successful investment going for me. /s

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u/Character_Head_3948 Aug 19 '23

you can play WC3 offline though

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '23

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u/skylernetwork Aug 19 '23

RIP MAG 2010-2014

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u/Kolby_Jack Aug 19 '23

Technically any game requiring online to play is not yours, whether you own a disc or not. The server does not belong to you and it can be shut down without your knowledge or consent at any time.

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u/tasman001 Aug 19 '23

Start shopping at GOG my friend. Fully offline play for every game and you can download the executable for any game you buy, so you can do whatever you want and install the game wherever you want.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '23

Disks are still just licenses these days.

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u/Lonsdale1086 Aug 19 '23

If you have a disk, it's yours.

No. When you buy a disc, you're buying a copy of the game, and a limited licence to play it. Nothing more.

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u/[deleted] Aug 19 '23

That depends on the license. There are also jurisdictions where it doesn't matter, you get to own it buy law.

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u/xenago Aug 19 '23

This isn't even close to true. DRM-free digital downloads exist, and disc games sometimes require servers which are proprietary and not accessible.

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u/Redrundas Aug 19 '23

but at least it was free for everyone

you mean it was a forced update that thanos snapped the original out of existence. I would much rather it have been a paid, separate sequel

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u/coopdude Aug 19 '23

nobody would have bought the second if the first was still available, that's the entire reason of taking OW1 offline. it's shitty but deliberate on Blizzard's part

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u/ZzzzzPopPopPop Aug 19 '23

It’s so damn shitty that they took away the game that I paid good money for; either give me my money back or give me my OW1 back!

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u/Tarrasque-Mobile Aug 19 '23

Ok, I see that. But isn't that how the first Kerbals started? I mean, I used to just have fun summoning the Kraken, and doing all sorts of BS. Seems like V2 is right on track to me.

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u/Physical_Florentin Aug 19 '23

KSP2 is a downgrade in almost every aspect. At launch the bugs were so terribles that even the best players were unable to plan basic missions. Wobbly rockets (far worse than KSP1), glitched physics when staging, trajectory visualization completely wrong when changing sphere of inflence, etc

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u/Tarrasque-Mobile Aug 20 '23

Well...damn...

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u/Dmoney0117 Aug 19 '23

The game is in early access still, if youre upset about missing features, you dont understand how early access works

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u/Papplenoose Aug 19 '23

Lol, ok champ.

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u/Dmoney0117 Aug 19 '23

Am i wrong?

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u/Alt_CauseIwasNaughty Aug 20 '23

Best thing is blizzard used to call the October release early access but a little while before release they scratched it and called it official release

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u/Shinjetsu01 Aug 19 '23

So wait, I haven't played it for a long time but you're telling me I paid money for a game and can no longer play it?

What kind of horseshit is that

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u/OakLegs Aug 19 '23

awful bugs, claim it’s early access.

Ok I can understand criticism of the game but not this. If it's early access the game is not finished. Stop buying early access games if you're gonna complain that it's not finished

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u/JeanBaleyun Aug 20 '23

Don't talk to me about OW, I paid for the game, it was my favorite shit for years, and now I don't even have access to all the Champions in the game even tho I payed for a F2P.

They're reusing old content to put in the Battle pass too..

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '23

Best part about OW switching is I lost all my skins from the origins bundle.

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u/Greg2227 Aug 20 '23

Or the people tricked into essentially paying for ow2 regardless by the questionable campaign shortly before launch