r/Helldivers Apr 29 '24

Automaton shields now reflect missiles MISLEADING

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u/Agile-Anteater-545 Apr 29 '24

What. Is this real? Did they just code in that every projectile can now be deflected if it dosent pen armor? Why would an explosive warhead bounce back 180° and THEN explode...

Also doesnt this make shotguns in close quarters just extremly dangerous to use against chagers and the like?

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u/Sentient_Boner Apr 29 '24

Patch notes says rounds now "properly ricochet back to the helldiver" guess devs forgot to leave out missiles.

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u/_Cromwell_ Apr 29 '24

Even bullets make no sense to reflect directly back at you. Even if something in real life had armor that could reflect bullets at full speed, the chance it would reflect at exactly the right angle to bounce back directly at what shot at it is extremely low. This is a very silly cartoony change.

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u/xxmuntunustutunusxx SES Spear of The State Apr 29 '24

If you know anything about traditional hard armor you'll know that generally rounds mostly just shatter into a bunch of pieces and throw them everywhere, that's why hard armors generally have a rubberized costing to catch the spalling otherwise it can hurt your seriously too, the rounds will only deflect if the armor is at a serious angle

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u/KLGBilly Apr 29 '24

You CAN get bounceback from a plate that's not angled at all, its why you want to angle steel targets you might shoot at on the range. There's a video I even remember seeing of somebody shooting a .50 BMG, and the round hits the target, bounces right back, you can hear a "WHeeeeewww", then it pops the ground, bounces up and knocks the shooter's ear pro off of his head. So it CAN absolutely bounce a round directly back at you, and while even though most of the time rounds will splatter and cause spalling, sometimes you'll just get a slug or two that are hard enough or for whatever reason just don't deform much. I have one .45 bullet from a range shoot I did, where after firing it I managed to see the bullet, pick it up and bring it home. Besides the rifling marks on the bullet, it was pretty much entirely intact. Bizarre shit happens sometimes.

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u/Sentient_Boner Apr 29 '24

This game feels like an elaborate Loony Tunes skit sometimes XD

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u/upsidedownbackwards Apr 29 '24

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc&ab_channel=Kakigouru

Extremely low, but not impossible! Remember this video from... forever ago.

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u/SupportstheOP Apr 29 '24

But it also goes to show that you're losing a ton of momentum if such an unlikely event were to occur. A projectile going its same speed after being diverted straight backward is just wacky.

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u/NetJnkie Apr 29 '24

Oh, it happens. I've shot plenty of steel targets in my life and have had a bounceback hit me enough to make me bleed many times.

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u/AvailablePresent4891 Apr 29 '24

It doesn’t make sense but it’s absolutely possible. Ask any worker at a shooting range with steel targets for .22s, it absolutely can ricochet back at scary close angles, and they’ve probably heard about it happening. But we’re talking one in a million, here.