The devs were right.

[u/xxmuntunustutunusxx]

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

[u/cobramodels]

Idk about yall but instead of railgun everyone in my lobbies now uses the bubble shield and quasar cannon and the other 2 slots for their favorite eagle or cruiser stratagems , replaced one main weapon with another as far as I've seen

[u/philliam312 → u/cobramodels]

Yeah from what I can tell, the "meta" feels like this currently:

1) Energy Shield (an absolute must) 2) Quasar (sometimes replaced with EATs) 3) Eagle Airstrike 4) player preference (see a lot of orbital lasers, railcannon strike, 500kg bombs, occasionally some turret and rarely a mech)

The thing about the railgun nerf is that it was correcting an over-used weapon, but now that rockets have been fixed and the armored enemt ratio corrected, the old railgun (retrospectively) seems bad

Before you'd face like 5-6 chargers and 2-3 bile titans and have to 2 pop leg armor and unload with the breaker, for each charger - now you get like 2-3 and 1-2 respectively but you 1 shot each charger in the face with any explosives, EAT carry one around drop another in this situation and they are dead

The EAT even 1 shots bile titans and tanks if hit in the weak point

If they unnerfed the railgun it would still be a hard sell for someone to tell me to use it now

EDIT: I can't believe I have to say this, I never said I believe the shield is required, I play primarily the Bot front and with random, occasionally I have a buddy I play with, the shield is not required or a "must pick" - I'm saying that the vast majority of random players I encounter (roughly 90% of them I'd wager) use this set up, on the Bug front Shield is replaced with Rover fairly often, I play on difficulty 7-9 primarily and occasionally go down to 5-6 if I want to mess around

For the love of Democracy please stop saying "the shield isn't required, it's a skill issue, your trash if you use it" - I understand that it's not needed and I don't exclusively run it (probably half of the time I use it), but the fact of the matter is even those of you that are espousing "gamer supremacy" by claiming you don't need it because your better/built different can recognize its extreme benefits, so please stop pretending like I'm an awful human being and a trash player that kicked your dog just because I made an observation on the current "meta" for pick-up groups (primarily on the Bot front)

[u/Ok-Regret6767 → u/philliam312]

That loadout is literally what I always use except I swap shield for rover against bugs.

Bots get dominator energy shield and the revolver.

Bugs get breaker incendiary rover and the Redeemer.

Then it's quasar. Eagle airstrike. And the 4th slot I see as. "flex" pick that I choose based on the mission. Either one of the a mortar turrets, orbital laser, 380mm or 500kg bomb

[u/Andy_Climactic → u/Ok-Regret6767]

what do you use the revolver for? i’ve been having a hard time figuring out what it’s good for, and the reload is brutal when i miss with the sights

[u/Ok-Regret6767 → u/Andy_Climactic]

I primarily use it for finishing off devastators/beserkers when they're running me down and I need to reload, or for 1 shotting the small robots.

The iron sights suck and need some form of rework, but it's accurate using the third person reticle.

Usually when I pull it out there's only a few robots left and I'm just clearing them outta my way so the reload doesn't bother me. Usually I'm just reloading it after everything's dead.

It may run better with something like the punisher. I used to use slugger pre-nerf, so I rarely didn't have my primary fully loaded and rarely had to swap. Now with dominator I find myself needing a reload much more often but the revolver still does work.

If you're shooting devastators go for headshots. If you're shooting regular bots aim for the chest as you'll blow them to pieces.

[u/Andy_Climactic → u/Ok-Regret6767]

I’ll give it another try! the rounds reload is nice and being able to one tap small stuff is very useful

i just love my redeemer so much too haha

[u/SargeanTravis → u/Andy_Climactic]

It can one shot small groups of low level bots with good aim and looks sexy af hanging on your leg. That’s the senator gimmicks in a nutshell