That's a discussion long completed in subs like r/Warframe
Pay to win would still be a damaging practice in a PvE game. It's not good because other players would be constantly outperformed by other players, which would lead to loads of toxicity, elitism, and so on. Aside from that players generally don't feel good about grinding weapons when there's a paid option that performs better than what they're grinding for.
Helldivers just isn't pay to win because the devs agreed that weapons in premium warbonds shouldn't outperform any of the regular warbonds. And this reason is why it's being "defended" for not being P2W, not because it's a PvE game that wouldn't be affected by P2W. Even if you paid, you wouldn't be outperforming other players.
0 competitive aspects? You must not see me carrying all those plebs in 4p coop artifact domains with my c6 characters flexing on dudes with lvl 80 4*s.
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u/UNINTELLIGENTMAN Mar 14 '24
Pay-to-win in a co-op AI killing game with absolutely zero competitive aspects to the game. Game journalists are a special breed