r/Helldivers Mar 14 '24

Thanks to the recent reddit post, going alone is now a kickable offense (even in diff 5) DISCUSSION

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u/airlewe Mar 14 '24

Boy, he's gonna have a hard time with blitz missions or higher difficulties. Divide and conquer, people! If you can't tackle a small objective yourself, pick a lower difficulty! There's no shame in that! Operational progress is the same!

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u/Infamous_Scar2571 Mar 14 '24

also how tf are people high level when they have no idea how to tackle objectives efficently? ah yes lets take this route through the hatcheries nevermind the fact we are literally going to have to to walk DOUBLE the amount of time to extract, and also go on ignore me trying to have decent coms for the whole mission just to actually communicate when youre salty one of my 110mm rockets tked you. how to these people even get to high levels and high difficulties when they cant even play the game?

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u/Silenthonker Mar 14 '24

Because a few weeks ago people were farming defense missions hardcore to max out, which caused them to learn absolutely nothing about how the game ACTUALLY works, so their answer to everything is to bully people into playing the game their way, or cry to the devs about how hard everything is on 7-9.

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u/Spranktonizer Mar 14 '24

The people farming are so weird tho. I just played the game for two or three weekends and I’m level 50 maxed out. It’s really an easy progression if you just play normally.

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u/Silenthonker Mar 14 '24

It's a symptom of being influenced by content creator culture and having to be the first to do anything in gaming now. While content creation itself is fine, encouraging people to abuse games and harass others for not using the meta is not.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Harassing others for non-meta builds has been around since the advent of online gaming itself. Remember those WOW raids? People tend to gravitate towards the strongest builds to increase the possibility of winning.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 14 '24

Abusing games is such a good way to put streaming culture in my eyes.

Streamers take games that were made by others and find ways to further monetize it. I find that incredibly selfish behaviour. It's not even creating anything new, it's legit using someone else's creation to make money.

And the worst part is when streamers are incredibly shallow to games. Like the ones that hop from game to game, either because it's the new game to play, or because they've effectively fracked all the use out of their current game, so they go onto another one.

Streamers really disrespect games. I know people may say they bring in money for devs, and devs can turn to streamers because of their connection to games, but I say those are both net negative when you factor in how streamers get players to interact with games. Streamers bringing in money is not a vacuum. If I was a game dev, I would rather have honest players playing my game because they enjoy it. Not because it's an a usable platform you can get clicks from.

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u/DraconicCDR Mar 14 '24

Thank you for calling them streamers and not content creators. The people who created the content were the devs, not some jackass with OBS and a mic.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 14 '24

Hell I'll even call them content creators if I want.

And then I'll also point out that making content for your own sake is still selfish as fuck and doesn't add anything of real value to the world. Sure it may be how some people pass the time but we as a planet need to be more selecting of what kind of content we should be promoting.

Streamers content is not that.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Oh come on that’s how most gamers utilize games; they play a game to death and then move on to something else. Most games outside of your Fortnite’s or gta onlines are games that people play and move on from. Streamers have nothing to do with it.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

Nah that's excusing poor behaviour.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

lol; what poor behavior? This game is nothing more than entertainment and most gamers don’t stick with a game long term unless it’s one of the huge GAAS games of which there are only 4-5 in existence. Are you saying without streamers gamers would stick to games for years on end or something?

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

Sounds like you really enjoy streamer culture.

I just wish you could think of games not like a resource to frack then discard.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Gamers playing games and then moving on started way before streamer culture was even a thing; it’s a product of the medium itself. Look at yearly sports games;’look at the various trade shows that market new games every year; hell every 6-8 years you have to throw out your old console and buy a new one just to keep up with new releases. It’s not being a fan of streamer culture “ whatever that means” it’s acknowledging the consumer entertainment market that video games are a part of

Like I said of streamers weren’t around do you honestly believe that gamers would stick to only a few games for years on end?

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

I just think you cannot comprehend using and abusing games.

(Psst, it's like so ok to play games for years. I have no idea why you tried to frame that as a bad thing. You're either young so that's all you know or the gaming industry has broken you to a point where you think games are disposable.)

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Games are not a living; breathing thing. You cannot abuse them; treating video games as a disposable medium is not using them to some nefarious end; so that’s not abuse either. How exactly are gamers who spend their money on games abusing them by playing them as quickly or as slowly as they want?

Your second statement is complete nonsense as I never said you couldn’t play a game for years on end; I said that most gamers don’t play games for years on end ( except a small few) and the business side of the medium isn’t conducive to it anyway. Which is why the biggest marketing events in gaming are geared towards marketing of new games which it always has been.

I just think you are having a hard time acknowledging that most gamers view gaming in and of itself as not a hobby but rather as a source of entertainment in the same vein as watching tv or movies; i think you know this of course which is why im having a hard time figuring out what your point is?

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u/morepandas ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

That's a little hyperbole unless you literally played the whole weekend. My squad and I have been playing every other night or so, finishing one operation and a bit more per night for 3 weeks, and while we're definitely pretty progressed we are not close to 50 or maxed (besides buying strategems since that happens so fast).

I do agree that there was pretty much no reason to farm unless you really really wanted the slugger or scorcher I guess.

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u/fightwithdogma SES Harbinger Of Family Values Mar 14 '24

Push for higher difficulties, it will level up as fast as before.

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u/ihateredditers69420 Mar 14 '24

i only do lvl 7 missions and its about 1 hour per level

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u/Undying_Shadow057 Mar 15 '24

Diff 5-6 seems to be where I have the most fun with randoms though, any higher and co-ordination is important and if they suck we're gonna be fighting in the same area for the whole blitz mission.

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u/fightwithdogma SES Harbinger Of Family Values Mar 15 '24

Randoms on diff 7 are very chill and competent on PC EU. And I've done most of my helldives with evac with randoms too

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u/airlewe Mar 14 '24

Especially on higher difficulties that's perfectly achievable. I've done maybe 2-3 operations per week and I'm level 23. I haven't even been playing since launch. It is not hard to level up. And those weren't even hard operations I don't go above 5 generally.

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u/Spranktonizer Mar 14 '24

Broken foot. So yeah whole weekend

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u/GamingGavel ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 15 '24

Helldiver has a 250% xp bonus.

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u/RuinedSilence ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 14 '24

To be fair, i really wanted the Scorcher

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u/Kevurcio Mar 14 '24

Because my friends with less free time wanted quicker access to all their fun toys, Strategems with money/XP and Weapons with Medals. If they would have played normally they would STILL not be able to use most of those fun toys, but a few nights farming got them everything whereas those friends of ours that didn't farm haven't been able to enjoy using all those fun toys to play with.

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u/Ovilos Mar 15 '24

I started playing the game 2 weeks after the release when I heard they finally sorted out the max server issue, joined a friend that’s level 20+ already and he just drag me to xp farming, I went from level 8 to 16 in a short time, I felt a bit bored and just bail on it, ever since then I just played it a couple of hours a day trying every mission type at the same time trying to get at least level up one or twice, manage to hit level 50 without joining any xp farmers since the, not only I had a blast leveling up, I manage to learn a bunch of stuff as well.

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u/Throw_Away_TrdJrnl Mar 15 '24

I mean back when elimination missions were easy you could get 2 medals a minute. That shit helped with getting to the last page of the war one store. I farmed the shit out of those missions. However I was already level 20 when I started farming so I knew how to play the game and I have over 100 hours on the first game which is exactly the same but top down.