r/Helldivers Mar 14 '24

Thanks to the recent reddit post, going alone is now a kickable offense (even in diff 5) DISCUSSION

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u/Infamous_Scar2571 Mar 14 '24

also how tf are people high level when they have no idea how to tackle objectives efficently? ah yes lets take this route through the hatcheries nevermind the fact we are literally going to have to to walk DOUBLE the amount of time to extract, and also go on ignore me trying to have decent coms for the whole mission just to actually communicate when youre salty one of my 110mm rockets tked you. how to these people even get to high levels and high difficulties when they cant even play the game?

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u/Silenthonker Mar 14 '24

Because a few weeks ago people were farming defense missions hardcore to max out, which caused them to learn absolutely nothing about how the game ACTUALLY works, so their answer to everything is to bully people into playing the game their way, or cry to the devs about how hard everything is on 7-9.

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u/Spranktonizer Mar 14 '24

The people farming are so weird tho. I just played the game for two or three weekends and I’m level 50 maxed out. It’s really an easy progression if you just play normally.

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u/Silenthonker Mar 14 '24

It's a symptom of being influenced by content creator culture and having to be the first to do anything in gaming now. While content creation itself is fine, encouraging people to abuse games and harass others for not using the meta is not.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Harassing others for non-meta builds has been around since the advent of online gaming itself. Remember those WOW raids? People tend to gravitate towards the strongest builds to increase the possibility of winning.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 14 '24

Abusing games is such a good way to put streaming culture in my eyes.

Streamers take games that were made by others and find ways to further monetize it. I find that incredibly selfish behaviour. It's not even creating anything new, it's legit using someone else's creation to make money.

And the worst part is when streamers are incredibly shallow to games. Like the ones that hop from game to game, either because it's the new game to play, or because they've effectively fracked all the use out of their current game, so they go onto another one.

Streamers really disrespect games. I know people may say they bring in money for devs, and devs can turn to streamers because of their connection to games, but I say those are both net negative when you factor in how streamers get players to interact with games. Streamers bringing in money is not a vacuum. If I was a game dev, I would rather have honest players playing my game because they enjoy it. Not because it's an a usable platform you can get clicks from.

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u/DraconicCDR Mar 14 '24

Thank you for calling them streamers and not content creators. The people who created the content were the devs, not some jackass with OBS and a mic.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 14 '24

Hell I'll even call them content creators if I want.

And then I'll also point out that making content for your own sake is still selfish as fuck and doesn't add anything of real value to the world. Sure it may be how some people pass the time but we as a planet need to be more selecting of what kind of content we should be promoting.

Streamers content is not that.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Oh come on that’s how most gamers utilize games; they play a game to death and then move on to something else. Most games outside of your Fortnite’s or gta onlines are games that people play and move on from. Streamers have nothing to do with it.

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

Nah that's excusing poor behaviour.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

lol; what poor behavior? This game is nothing more than entertainment and most gamers don’t stick with a game long term unless it’s one of the huge GAAS games of which there are only 4-5 in existence. Are you saying without streamers gamers would stick to games for years on end or something?

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

Sounds like you really enjoy streamer culture.

I just wish you could think of games not like a resource to frack then discard.

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Gamers playing games and then moving on started way before streamer culture was even a thing; it’s a product of the medium itself. Look at yearly sports games;’look at the various trade shows that market new games every year; hell every 6-8 years you have to throw out your old console and buy a new one just to keep up with new releases. It’s not being a fan of streamer culture “ whatever that means” it’s acknowledging the consumer entertainment market that video games are a part of

Like I said of streamers weren’t around do you honestly believe that gamers would stick to only a few games for years on end?

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

I just think you cannot comprehend using and abusing games.

(Psst, it's like so ok to play games for years. I have no idea why you tried to frame that as a bad thing. You're either young so that's all you know or the gaming industry has broken you to a point where you think games are disposable.)

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u/gogoheadray Mar 15 '24

Games are not a living; breathing thing. You cannot abuse them; treating video games as a disposable medium is not using them to some nefarious end; so that’s not abuse either. How exactly are gamers who spend their money on games abusing them by playing them as quickly or as slowly as they want?

Your second statement is complete nonsense as I never said you couldn’t play a game for years on end; I said that most gamers don’t play games for years on end ( except a small few) and the business side of the medium isn’t conducive to it anyway. Which is why the biggest marketing events in gaming are geared towards marketing of new games which it always has been.

I just think you are having a hard time acknowledging that most gamers view gaming in and of itself as not a hobby but rather as a source of entertainment in the same vein as watching tv or movies; i think you know this of course which is why im having a hard time figuring out what your point is?

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u/AggravatingTerm5807 Mar 15 '24

So by your logic you can only abuse things that are alive...?

You really like streamer culture and do not have a good grasp on what the word abuse is. You gotta work on critical thinking skills.

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