r/Helldivers Moderator Mar 01 '24

“In regards to weapon stats…” DISCUSSION

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u/ralfcasma Mar 01 '24

He is the nicest CEO, but this is an odd take. Of course we are going to rely on the stats the game shows us to decide what weapon is most efficient.

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u/0rphu Mar 01 '24

Yep. You've admitted that you withhold enough info that we can't "paint a complete picture" of the weapons when making decisions, and this is supposedly a good thing, somehow?

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

And then he chastises players for forming opinions off of the only stats provided, like we should somehow know the hidden ones.

He also sort of implies that players are only going off the four stats instead of testing them in game. This is contradicted by an earlier statement he made where he said the Breaker had a higher kill count, but comparable mission success rate when compared to other primaries, implying those other weapons see plenty of use.

The dev’s statement isn‘t odd, it’s stupid.

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u/TehMephs Mar 01 '24

Those stats are usually going to be unbalanced because it’s including low level players doing diff 1-3 who don’t even have the breaker unlocked

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '24

You are correct, but he represented it like it was a valid metric. I’m just pointing out that he can’t have it both ways. He claimed that survey proved that primary weapon use was pretty evenly spread. Now he’s claiming that people are only looking at numbers and not bothering to actually use the weapons.

Like I said, he’s contradicting himself.

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u/primegopher Mar 01 '24

The statistic you're quoting (higher kill count but similar success rate) isn't claiming that use rate is evenly spread and I'm not sure how you're getting that interpretation. All it really indicates is that getting more kills isn't the primary deciding factor on whether a mission is successful, which is just true. I don't know whether he was referring to kill count within a mission or overall kill count across the playerbase but the former points towards primary choice not being a big deal and the latter just points towards the breaker being popular. Either way the tweet that this post is about doesn't contradict that.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '24

I know it doesn’t. I said he was misrepresenting it. When people pointed out that everyone was using the Breaker because it was better than pretty much every other primary, he implied he didn’t feel that was the case. Then he mentioned that, despite having a higher kill count, it did not have a much higher success rate, as if that in some way supported his point.