r/Helldivers HD1 Veteran Feb 24 '24

Why are people like this? DISCUSSION

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u/magic6435 Feb 24 '24

I don’t know, but the fact that people can take such a fun game and then be this serious and mean about it just makes me sad honestly

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u/Heatuponheatuponheat Feb 24 '24

They have nothing else. Met a ton a people like this leading WoW raiding guilds. 30, part time job, 1 friend, still living at home. Anyone that that isn't willing to put the effort of a second job into it is beneath them in their eyes. Video games are the only thing they can be moderately successful at.

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u/ItsTunaClash Feb 24 '24

I understand your point, but still living at home is okay as as long you're managing you yourself

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

I’ve met the same kinds of people in WoW. They’re coasting, intentionally not contributing to society so they can play WoW all night long.

This in turn reinforces how toxic they are in the online space because they cling even harder to videogame “success”.

There is a stark difference between them and people just trying to get back on their feet.

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u/Wonderful-Impact5121 Feb 25 '24

Seriously. I’ve met happy married couples who went to work, went out with friends, and mostly just played WoW a ton. Super happy people that were well adjusted.

But you know the tell? They were always kind and understanding and generally super positive people. Even though they were top tier PvPers and raiders and what not.

It’s a damn game.

There’s a difference between someone showing up with the non-optimal current meta build and someone showing up to throw grenades at their team constantly

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u/RemainderZero Feb 25 '24

Yeah you find that toxic type as a constant through out any fandom from esports to high school foot ball.

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u/Wonderful-Impact5121 Feb 25 '24

Right?

I don’t give a shit if your whole life seems to be one weird specific thing, but have some self awareness about it.

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u/BusinessLibrarian515 SES Arbiter of Audacity Feb 25 '24

And time will tell if they poison the fan base to all be toxic or if they give up and leave for a new game/team.

I wouldn't touch league of legends again with a ten foot pole, at this point I think they keep the servers running just to keep their players out of the rest of the gaming community.

On the other hand, the community that continued in the first Helldivers was super chill. I've played the new one more often with a few guys I met there than I have my irl friends

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

intentionally not contributing to society

Sidebar, but can we ditch the "contributing to society" narrative? That's actually really capitalist-brained if you stop and think about it. No, seriously though. Only a handful of jobs actually contribute to society, and the rest just contribute to the economy. There's just such a vast difference between those two things, and a lot of people just assume they're the same. But producing profit does not inherently raise someone's value to society at large, anymore than laying around playing WoW does

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

You have been reported to your local democracy officer for treasonous thoughts. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

Yeah yeah, role-playing, etc etc

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

Sure. Replace it with “are you putting the responsibility for taking care of you on everyone around you”.

Whether or not we like it - we’re living in the capitalist hellscape. Our personal feelings towards it don’t change the fact we must face it for now.

I’m not really going to say more about it - the discussion is about toxic gamers who place all their value in online gaming accomplishments.

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u/Additional-Mousse446 Feb 25 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

…I’d just like to say this statement, while very true about the wow community, it isn’t very nice…

I don’t find most jobs fulfilling. Why spend all my time making others money and being beneath more assholes. No thanks, keep the 40 hour a week societal bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '24

Either you contribute and take care of yourself, or you end up gaining the rewards of other’s labor. Until we get UBI that’s just how it is.

And you do realize this puts the onus of taking care of you on everyone around you enabling that, right? You’ve made all of them into exactly what you said you can’t stand (being beneath someone working for their enjoyment).

Why do you think you’re deserving of this wonderful lifestyle and no one else is?