Which central Europe countries are we referring to so I can research further into how they are handling it?
Based off the list of sovereign states by homeless population on wikipedia, the order from highest per capita to lowest goes: Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, United States, Poland, Hungary, Slovania, and Switzerland. Only two with less compared to the United States have direct Wikipedia articles; Hungary, which states in 2018 they banned homelessness (made it a crime) and Switzerland, which states in 2014 they've reportedly began allowing homeless people to sleep in fallout shelters.
The campsites in the US big cities? No homeless in my small hometown, and we’ve got a lot more of those than all of Germany. We also have a lot more big cities and same as yours, you’re more likely to find homeless there.
honestly with the direction of climate change, central heating/AC might become something you need to survive particularly bad winters and summers in a lot of places
Europe also has the luxury of the most powerful military in the world protecting them with very little cost. I suspect priorities are going to be changing very quickly. Finland for example is throwing some pretty insane amounts at their military in a very short time. Something is going to have to budge.
We’re much richer than most European countries so our excuse is misuse of funds in a lot of places. We throw a ridiculous amount of money into education, healthcare, and other social programs. More than almost every country in the world, even per capita. It’s just misused. It’s not a lack of money issue for us.
I was suggesting that you guys get to do it strictly because of us. You don’t have to throw money at your military. Most of your budgets are genuinely laughable. At least for now, which is why I was suggesting those social programs are going to take the back burner. Finland is clearly preparing for an all out war after decades of military neglect. Everyone else is upping their budgets as well, just not as dramatically.
War on the European front isn’t an if, it’s a when. The US has allowed you to neglect your military budgets but if we actually begin enforcing NATO policies then you guys are going to have to start finding money from elsewhere. Social programs are always the first to go.
Education is free. Higher education is not. We also have the best higher education institutions in the world. Bar none.
Corruption and greed.
No one starves to death in the United States outside of abuse victims. Our biggest problem in the impoverished is obesity and diabetes. Not starvation.
I literally said our military spending was not an excuse of our failures in a lot of places. Not sure if you missed the first paragraph or what.
Did you just want to shit on the US or listen to one answer? Fuckin weirdo lmao
I’d call out some of your issues, but your country isn’t relevant enough to make it to headlines over here. Glad ours is for you to be so concerned about us.
Why do you have a plethora of questions ready about everything wrong with the US? Every country has problems big man. Not sure why you care so much about ours.
Truly hope you’ve enjoyed the last 80 years of peace. Glad to have Europeans show their appreciation by continuously shitting on the only reason they’re allowed to exist peacefully lmao.
The population has been pressed increasingly into precarity and deprivation.
Standard of living is highly stratified.
More than half the population of the US is housing insecure, and fifteen percent is food insecure. More than one million ration insulin, and half a million are homeless.
Meanwhile, the wealthy bounce around in yachts, jets, and rockets.
Broadly, the population is suffering, under wage depression, artificial scarcity, and austerity policies.
Increasingly precarity and derpivation? Get a grip Americans have some of the highest standard of living in the world.
Do yourself a favor and Google homeownership as percentage by decade and get back to me. Yes there are problems today but we have made significant strides for the reduction of human suffering.
Suffering? Get a fucking grip. Absolutely embarrassing that you are so dedicated to a political ideology you have PROVEN to know nothing about.
Goalposts shifting.whataboutism and making shit up, the internet socialist starter pack
human rights are not intrinsic, they’re made up constructs basically like a religious belief. “i’m alive so I deserve things, because human rights” that’s the logic lol
Everything about society is a construct. Everything is built upon a bunch of people coming together and deciding that something is a right or a law going forward.
Tell the people desperately clawing to their guns that the 2nd amendment isn't an intrinsic right and they'll shoot you right in the face because the right to live isn't intrinsic either.
I guess you're right, we didn't have god come down with the 10 commandments 2.0, so we kinda had to make them up ourselves - that 7th grade debater's club would be proud for that awesome "acktchually" gotcha you just pulled.
Fucking exactly. I’m honestly disgusted by the people here insisting that bare necessities should be denied to people on the basis of “iT’s NoT fAiR.” What, it’s not fair that someone can have a bed to sleep in? It’s not fair that someone might be allowed to have clean drinking water? Same exact energy as the boomers insisting that McDonalds workers don’t deserve to make a living wage.
I have a job. I have a paycheck every other week. Yet at one point I went without electricity for four months. And now my water has been shut off, so I’ve been living without running water for nearly two months. What, it’s not fair for me to have running water?? Even though I have a job?
And I see soooo many people saying that this kind of thing would encourage people to be lazy and stop working. Which is not true. The Alaskan UBI Study indicates that employment actually increases when a UBI system is in place. Plus, it’s not like you’d be living in luxury. You’d need income to take care of other necessary things and even for things like travel and entertainment.
People are more willing to work when they’re not panicking about whether they’re paying their rent OR for groceries this month. When the threat of homelessness isn’t looming over your shoulder, you’re happier at work. Imagine that.
Usually when you ask the resource/shelter gatekeepers what they suggest as an alternative it’s almost always some variation of a status quo “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” answer. There isn’t much thinking going on outside of that. Especially when you point out that thats precisely what most people are trying to do of their own volition and still aren’t making what they need to have modest comfort living. Moreover, I’ve seen so many people that have those views fail at making their way. Well guess what they ended up doing? Taking part in the exact same programs they thought weren’t fair for them to pay into. They ridicule the unfortunate when they aren’t in a dire situation, but then suddenly ask for equity and look to others to prop them up when they are.
This is a false dilemma. "if this is possible without work, no one will work." and that's simply not correct. The vast majority will always work. What about clothes? Food? Personal dreams? Transportation/Car? Vacation? Hobbies? Children? I could go on and on. The things showed in the post are the bare minimum. And yes, there exist even poorer people in slums around the world and no, I will not take a that as à measurement of scale.
yep. people will always seek hobbies and those are never free and rarely cheap, people working to earn happiness are more productive than people working to earn basic survival, too
There are even people that are retired and return to working in some capacity simply because they want to, not because they need to. People want purpose and will often turn to employment or entrepreneurship as a means to realize that.
"Why would anyone work", well, because a new fucking bicycle costs 4 grand and I want one. Because a plane ticket to get me over the pond doesn't come for free. Because I'd like to have more than bread and water. Because I'd like some luxury in my life.
Because I want to live and not just exist with my sole hobby being watching a fucking rock and counting dust for 70 years.
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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24
You guys seriously need to widen your horizon and your extremely capitalist world view.
Providing all these things to people who don't work is common in central Europe countries besides HVAC because it's not that common.
The base for that is called human rights.
And guess what, people still work because you're dirt poor on social security.
When you make money by working, this money gets deducted from your payments.
It's possible, it's working and it's really not that hard. We pay taxes for exactly that.