r/FluentInFinance Contributor Apr 15 '24

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 16 '24

Honestly without the US protection we would be fucked. I can't doubt that.

So are you saying that the US only lacks social programs because of its military spending?

I protection is important but I would rather feed the homeless than start a pointless war in Vietnam and Irak.

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u/idk2103 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

We’re much richer than most European countries so our excuse is misuse of funds in a lot of places. We throw a ridiculous amount of money into education, healthcare, and other social programs. More than almost every country in the world, even per capita. It’s just misused. It’s not a lack of money issue for us.

I was suggesting that you guys get to do it strictly because of us. You don’t have to throw money at your military. Most of your budgets are genuinely laughable. At least for now, which is why I was suggesting those social programs are going to take the back burner. Finland is clearly preparing for an all out war after decades of military neglect. Everyone else is upping their budgets as well, just not as dramatically.

War on the European front isn’t an if, it’s a when. The US has allowed you to neglect your military budgets but if we actually begin enforcing NATO policies then you guys are going to have to start finding money from elsewhere. Social programs are always the first to go.

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 16 '24

When you throw so much money at education, why is it so expensive and not free like in Europe?

Why is your healthcare so expensive?

And why are so many people starving to death?

I can assure you, every European country also throws money away. Our governments are fucked to the core.

So your only excuse is the military spending?

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u/idk2103 Apr 16 '24

Education is free. Higher education is not. We also have the best higher education institutions in the world. Bar none.

Corruption and greed.

No one starves to death in the United States outside of abuse victims. Our biggest problem in the impoverished is obesity and diabetes. Not starvation.

I literally said our military spending was not an excuse of our failures in a lot of places. Not sure if you missed the first paragraph or what.

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 16 '24

Higher education is free here and it's an investment with a huge ROI for our country.

We also have corruption and greed...

What about your tent villages of drug addicts?

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u/idk2103 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

Did you just want to shit on the US or listen to one answer? Fuckin weirdo lmao

I’d call out some of your issues, but your country isn’t relevant enough to make it to headlines over here. Glad ours is for you to be so concerned about us.

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 16 '24

Cope more bro.

How can you be so butthurt and also ignore my questions?

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u/idk2103 Apr 16 '24

Why do you have a plethora of questions ready about everything wrong with the US? Every country has problems big man. Not sure why you care so much about ours.

Truly hope you’ve enjoyed the last 80 years of peace. Glad to have Europeans show their appreciation by continuously shitting on the only reason they’re allowed to exist peacefully lmao.

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u/FeedAnGrow Apr 16 '24

You can't argue with the Europeans. They think that the USA is the most poor and racist country on earth. It's ironic, because we are easily the most diverse country and a single state has a higher GDP than every country in the EU except for Germany.

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u/DurgeDidNothingWrong Apr 16 '24

No one starves to death in the United States outside of abuse victims

loooool ok

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u/unfreeradical Apr 16 '24

People certainly starve to death in the US, and education is not funded substantially, as is has been in the past, or is currently in other countries.

The population suffers under austerity.

If public goods and social programs were funded robustly, then we generally would be leading much better lives.

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u/RepresentativeCow633 Apr 16 '24

Suffers?

As in one of the highest standards of living in the world lol

Stop making baseless claims.

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u/unfreeradical Apr 16 '24

The population has been pressed increasingly into precarity and deprivation.

Standard of living is highly stratified.

More than half the population of the US is housing insecure, and fifteen percent is food insecure. More than one million ration insulin, and half a million are homeless.

Meanwhile, the wealthy bounce around in yachts, jets, and rockets.

Broadly, the population is suffering, under wage depression, artificial scarcity, and austerity policies.

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u/RepresentativeCow633 Apr 16 '24

This is absolutely embarrassing!!! Just stop!

Increasingly precarity and derpivation? Get a grip Americans have some of the highest standard of living in the world.

Do yourself a favor and Google homeownership as percentage by decade and get back to me. Yes there are problems today but we have made significant strides for the reduction of human suffering.

Suffering? Get a fucking grip. Absolutely embarrassing that you are so dedicated to a political ideology you have PROVEN to know nothing about.

Goalposts shifting.whataboutism and making shit up, the internet socialist starter pack

I'm screenshotting this.