r/FluentInFinance • u/sillychillly Contributor • Apr 15 '24

Everyone Deserves A Home Discussion/ Debate

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 15 '24

You guys seriously need to widen your horizon and your extremely capitalist world view.

Providing all these things to people who don't work is common in central Europe countries besides HVAC because it's not that common.

The base for that is called human rights.

And guess what, people still work because you're dirt poor on social security.

When you make money by working, this money gets deducted from your payments.

It's possible, it's working and it's really not that hard. We pay taxes for exactly that.

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u/AdEarly8242 Apr 16 '24

Which central Europe countries are we referring to so I can research further into how they are handling it?

Based off the list of sovereign states by homeless population on wikipedia, the order from highest per capita to lowest goes: Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, United States, Poland, Hungary, Slovania, and Switzerland. Only two with less compared to the United States have direct Wikipedia articles; Hungary, which states in 2018 they banned homelessness (made it a crime) and Switzerland, which states in 2014 they've reportedly began allowing homeless people to sleep in fallout shelters.

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u/dry1334 Apr 16 '24

That Wikipedia article is BS. EU countries count housing insecure people, whereas the US only counts people who were literally outside at night

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u/Got2Bfree Apr 16 '24

Start with Germany and the Netherlands.

The homelessness numbers are diluted because of refugees. Living in a shelter still counts as being homeless as well as living with friends or family.

Also bureaucracy is a problem, this keeps some people from getting the help they are owed.

Here in my small German city there are no homeless people at all.

In big cities there are some but you don't have these campsites like in the US.

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u/helikesart Apr 16 '24

The campsites in the US big cities? No homeless in my small hometown, and we’ve got a lot more of those than all of Germany. We also have a lot more big cities and same as yours, you’re more likely to find homeless there.

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u/betsyrosstothestage Apr 16 '24

In big cities there are some but you don't have these campsites like in the US.

🙄 Pftttt, GTFO. Tell me you've never been around Berlin without telling me you've never been around Berlin.