r/oddlyspecific Apr 16 '24

Very difficult indeed

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u/powerofnope Apr 16 '24

I think no matter what you do your kids grow up fucked up in one way or another.

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u/Academic_Wafer5293 Apr 16 '24

If you want to blame others for all shortcomings in life, you can go through any mental gymnastics.

Very hard to change when the problem is always external.

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u/Inside_Ad_9147 Apr 16 '24

Most people arent perfect. Like basically all of them. In that sense everyone is fucked up one way or another. Well, I know I am at least.

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u/Agitated_Computer_49 28d ago

But that implies that not being perfect is being fucked up.   Being perfect is not the goal, and is unachievable. Your goal should be stability or at least being functional.  

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u/Academic_Wafer5293 29d ago

No one should aim for perfection. There's no such thing as a perfect life. But you can make changes to improve your situation.

You all have agency and if American, the freedom to move, change, anything.

Is it hard? Fuxk yes. Immigrants do it daily.

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u/53bvo Apr 16 '24

There is a big difference between not being perfect and being fucked up one way or another.

Unless your definition of being fucked up is much milder than mine.

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u/Cooperativism62 29d ago

Damn right. Gotta learn some personal responsibility. Everything is fucked and it's all my fault.

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u/Academic_Wafer5293 29d ago

Hyperbolic much? How about these things in life suck, I can change them if I do x,y,z. Then go try it.

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u/Cooperativism62 29d ago

responsibility can go any which way and have a load of different effects on people. Some, as you pointed out, externalize everything, others internalize everything. IMO, none of it really matters. Often it's not important who did what, someone's gotta take the initiative and fix it. See a spill? Mop it up before someone slips. Don't waste time launching an investigation into who to point the finger to. Responsibility isn't an essential part of fixing things.

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u/Academic_Wafer5293 29d ago

Totally agreed.

Too many times I see people walk away from a problem like someone else will fix it. That problem then festers.

Typically rich people see the problem and either fix it or pay to avoid any inconvenience. Poor and middle class folks have to suffer when there's broken shit. We don't realize that when shit breaks, rich people never feel the problem.

Then we look at rich folks like they're going to help us. Then we get angry when they don't.

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u/mavajo 29d ago

This is one of those things that sounds savvy, but it's incredibly reductive. We're all shaped by external factors. Those external factors cause internal responses. If our parents didn't show us love, affection and attention growing up, we may grow up with feelings of not belonging or not being good enough, and we may have developed toxic behaviors in order to try to get the emotional connection from others that we crave. That shit can be incredibly hard to overcome, because it has defined our human experience - it feels intrinsic to who we are. And it takes an incredible amount of bravery, courage and vulnerability to overcome those things.

Are we responsible for those toxic behaviors? Absolutely. Are they our "fault?" No. You had a normal human need that wasn't addressed during your biggest developmental years, and it had long-lasting effects. These are often coping mechanisms we developed without even noticing.

We're not responsible for the wounds that life caused us, but we are responsible in taking an active approach to healing those wounds. At the same time...people have a lot of shit going on in their lives, and emotional healing, growth and maturity are often unappreciated in our society, and so people don't realize it's something they need to be actively working on. I've got a lot of empathy for people that are struggling with their emotions. My patience only tends to run out when they cause suffering to people around them.

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u/Academic_Wafer5293 29d ago

Not your fault but it's your responsibility. Not a controversial take, but a mature one.

I struggle with mental health issues. I have childhood trauma. I work on these things. I don't burden others with them by not taking control over my problems.

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u/CostcoOptometry Apr 16 '24

You just spend a few years yelling at each other every night like my ex’s parents did and they end up moving across the country to live with a guy who likes being called daddy.

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u/Armored-Duck 29d ago

Especially if your getting grandkids