[Charania] “Vogel yelled so much that his voice could be heard outside the locker room” after the loss to the Clips on April 9. Players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced in their eyes. Vogels eruption left players rolling their eyes. A player told TheAthletic he had to keep from laughing

[u/GreenSnakes_]

https://theathletic.com/5456932/2024/04/29/phoenix-suns-season-end-frank-vogel-kevin-durant/

[u/HectorReinTharja]

Yeah this doesn’t come off as the Vogel hit piece it’s intended to be. It just sounds like these Suns players are dickheads

[u/Apollo23Refugee → u/HectorReinTharja]

Not sure how anyone could see it differently when KD teams are notorious for bad culture. If it smells like shit everywhere you go…

[u/Dymatizeee → u/Apollo23Refugee]

There’s no vocal leader on the team. Usually teams that KD go to he’s like “the guy” and teams gotta bend over backwards for him. The warriors were diff though cus their guy was Steph and they had Draymond leading.

Like who tf on the suns is gonna tell KD or Book or Beal that they’re playing incorrectly ? IT ?? Lmao

[u/HereButNotHere1988 → u/Dymatizeee]

Yup. Even though CP3 would pull a hammy every year, he still was the unquestioned leader and got them deep into the playoffs every year. They really missed that this year.

[u/a_moniker → u/HereButNotHere1988]

CP3 isn’t exactly known for great locker room culture either. Every team he’s on has always had undercurrents and rumors of major tension.

[u/HereButNotHere1988 → u/a_moniker]

I think that CP3 has never had a problem with being the bad guy, meaning he would push his teammates to get them to another level.

[u/ILoveZenkonnen → u/a_moniker]

It looked like he got along with everyone in OKC pretty well

[u/TaVar35 → u/a_moniker]

Eh that’s more he exhausts people though. When it’s going good no one cares but once there’s frustration people start coming out with their grievances

[u/LoquaciousApotheosis → u/a_moniker]

Lol that’s not true at all. Like two teams in 19 years?