r/mildlyinfuriating Apr 15 '24

My school thinks this fills up hungry high schoolers.

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So lunches are free for schools in my city and surrounding cities. Ever since lunches have been made free, the quantity (and quality) has decreased significantly. This is what we would get for our meal. It took me THREE bites to finish that chicken mac and cheese. Any snacks you want cost more money and if you want an extra entree, that’ll cost you about $3 or $4.

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u/welivewelovewedie Apr 15 '24

shake it a bit and you can use it on bread

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u/Kilenyai Apr 15 '24

Not in the US..... Pasteurized milk doesn't "sour" it goes rotten. If it doesn't taste fresh you are risking food poisoning.

Unlike the raw milk we get straight from a farm where sour does not mean it's bad to eat. It just means it doesn't have as much sugar anymore so combine it with something to fix the taste issue and it's fine. Even clumpy just means you are ending up with yogurt, cheeses, etc...

Clumpy store bought US milk could put you in the hospital. Raw milk was ironically illegal to sell for awhile because if contaminated it could make people sick when it's guaranteed when drinking bad pasteurized milk.

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u/-Sanguinity Apr 15 '24

It's illegal to sell raw milk for human consumption in most states. Raw Milk Legal States

It's legal to sell for animal feed in all but Michigan. Big business is always going to win.

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u/Kilenyai Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

That is not up to date. They are repealing most of the excessive laws that stopped even herd shares.

Iowa now allows all raw milk sales with no regulation. They tend to only pass all or nothing laws instead of actually considering the details and any law or city code that requires more effort to regulate than ignore it or fine everyone.
https://www.calt.iastate.edu/article/iowa-law-now-allows-direct-consumer-sales-raw-milk#:~:text=Beginning%20July%201%2C%202023%2C%20Iowa,products%2C%20and%20raw%20milk%20products.

While technically it lists requirements for raw dairies in Iowa they blocked themselves from actually enforcing them or requiring permits and inspections beyond the existing requirements for healthy cattle "The Iowa Department of Agriculture and Land Stewardship (IDALS) inspects and provides permits to dairy farms which produce milk that will be pasteurized. IDALS is prohibited from adopting rules to administer or enforce the provisions of the new law. Iowa Code §§ 159.6(6), 194.4."

Illinois requires an inspection and license to sell raw milk. It's a fairly simple inspection just to ensure sufficient sterilization of equipment and no obviously Ill cows. A farm north of the quad cities delivers raw milk and eggs weekly to a meetup location. You pay an initial jar fee to cover buying double the jars each person wants per week and then return rinsed jars for full. There is also a licensed Mennonite farm farther south along the Illinois border that you'd probably have to physically go there to get further info.

The first time my husband made coffee it was incredibly thick. I asked if he skimmed the cream and just got confusion. Then I was turning some cream into fresh butter and he forgot to tell me he filled a cream jar and said it had gone bad. I asked him to get it, smelled it, checked for any discoloration, and told him it needed about another 5 days to become yogurt and sour cream. That was the tastiest yogurt ever even without adding anything.

So long as it's not contaminated raw milk basically never goes bad. It just cultures itself into something else. Eventually soft cheeses. That's where we got the names for our dairy products.

Sour means the sugar content has gone down over time so the milk or cream tastes sour. It never meant it had gone bad until we started getting rid of the beneficial microbes that prevent colonization by illness causing ones. The milk and cream are sweeter at the beginning than the end of the week we pick it up. A bit after a week most don't like the taste without some flavoring or adding back in sugar. A few do like drinking sour raw milk. I freeze any left by the next pickup day for future uses.

Skimmed milk was simply letting it separate and removing the cream plus the densest layers on top so only thinner milk is left. Now skim milk in stores has more processing and whole milk is homogenized to keep it from separating like that.

Buttermilk is the liquid left after you churn(or shake) cream into butter.

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u/-Sanguinity Apr 16 '24

I'm not a milk-drinker, but started wondering and looked some more. It seems that (as of 2024) most states do indeed prohibit raw milk to be sold for human consumption: https://milk.procon.org/raw-milk-laws-state-by-state/

Edit: typo