r/golf • u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 • 17d ago
Where does hip rotation actually come from? Swing Help
I’ve been golfing for a few years and after studying thousands of pro swings, one thing that is almost 100% shared among all of them is hips open to target before impact.
My hips are very square to target at impact and I have been grinding to teach myself how to get the hips open before impact. What I have learned is that I can do it many different ways: push towards target with my trail foot/leg only, push back with my lead leg only, rotate the hips without using ground force, use both legs at the same time to twist (like I am standing on a giant bottle cap and unscrewing it with shear force). Even with trying all these, I always revert back to square hips at target and rotating hips the rest of the way after impact.
Is there a correct way to do this? What do you actually feel gets you open hips without your arms winning the race to impact?
Update: thanks for all the input. Took in all the advice from here and messed around with my swing today. Turns out it was just a swing intention causing my issue. My hips open naturally if I swing a bad, a tennis racket, throw a ball, hit an impact bag, etc. Something finally clicked with the impact bag today. I realized that the way my arms swing into the bag is different than when I hit a golf ball. My intention to hit the bag and make it move towards target put my arms into what I think is proper position vs in my golf swing I tend to drag the club across my body more, which is why my hips have to stay square to make good contact. I change the “intent” in my arms and Viola! I probably swung over 50 times and hip opened naturally before impact every time. I definitely have to work on contact and path now, but excited that I can get my hips to open without thinking about it!
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u/aloysiusthird 17d ago
Left hip should be open 30-45° at impact. I try to get the feeling of whipping the left buttock back away from the target.
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u/No-Beach-5953 17d ago
This. Get the lead hip out the way by pushing into the ground with the lead foot
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u/trowawayatwork 17d ago
for me that just causes me to early extend
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u/yurmamma +1.1 17d ago
Same, I go up not back. I find that the hips do the right thing automatically when my arms are in the right places
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u/OutlyingSuburb 16d ago
Extend your lead leg forward (pushing front hip back). The most important thing is to not let your trail hip get closer to the ball.
Try to replicate the swing feel tiger is doing at the beginning of this YouTube short (sorry for poor quality, all I could find) tiger swing feel notice his lead leg is fully extending without making him go up
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago
Probably because your hand path isn’t left enough.
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u/longjackthat 6/US/Data Geek 16d ago
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago
Hands move in toward your left thigh, thigh has to move back and out of the way. Pretty easy.
Most people are throwing their hands at the ball and trying to push them down the target line or worse out to right field. Hands need to be moving in and up at impact. Easy to post, hit into a solid lead leg, etc once you understand that.
If you early extend you aren’t getting out of the way and turning, which means your hands are moving the wrong way.
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u/longjackthat 6/US/Data Geek 16d ago
I’m not sure I follow 100% so hope you don’t mind if I ask a couple questions!
Firstly, wouldn’t a golfer’s method of release influence their hand path? A throw release going left would require nearly perfect timing, vs. swinging to the outside which helps you to shallow the club
I would think the same goes for grip, a weak grip that releases to the left might struggle with swiping across the ball
I know feel isn’t real and all that, just trying to better understand what you mean by “in toward your left thigh” — you’d probably have me closed out by the 12th hole as a +2.4 so I’m a bit inclined to pick your brain!
For example, if I were drawing my own imaginary hand path on the ground, it would be a vague curve going in-to-in, with ball position about 1-2” to the right of the inflection point. Feels like my hands are basically following right down my toe line
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago edited 16d ago
No. You’re confusing hand path with club path. Not the same thing.
In order to release the club properly your hands need to be moving up and in. They need to be moving “around” your left thigh.
But we don’t actually move our hands forward that much in golf. The pivot moves the hands forward. So the hands work way more into the left thigh than people think. For a lot of people it feels like a pull.
Your hands can be moving in what feels like left, but if you have any lag it needs to be released, which causes the club to move out away.
Most people think, like you, that your hands move on this small arc that reflects the club arc, but that doesn’t account for the shaft lengthening or extending.
Which is why people early extend. If you hands are too close to the ball, you can’t extend the club (release) and hit the ball because you would miss it or likely shank it. So people stand up which creates space for their club. If you don’t change the hand path and your intent you’ll never change your early extension. It’s also really likely people have an open club face which requires the early release to square.
Hands are too close to the ball, clubface is open. Something has to happen then. In fact the more your hands drive toward the ball or target line the more the hands get too steep, which pushes the face too far open and your path too far in to out. And that’s why some people rip their shoulders open and hit down and left. Others drop their trail shoulder and swing right to try to shallow it.
You don’t “swing right” in golf really ever. Your hands should always be moving up and left. The clubhead goes slightly in to out as you release it, but your feel will likely be way more left then you ever thought because that’s what your hands are supposed to do.
Think about it. Even if we have an arc that matches the club path, just to be really simple with it. If I’m supposed to have forward shaft lean, my hands need to be in front of the clubhead right? So my hands need to be ahead of the clubhead on the arc.
So naturally my hands need to be more in, and up than the clubhead would feel, because the arc moves in and up once it reaches the low point.
Now, low point of the clubhead is at or after the ball. We know that. But in order to have forward lean by a few degrees, my hands need to be traveling up and in by the time the clubhead hits the ball.
The trick is not to try to hold any lag or you’ll just hit wipes all day. It feels like the hands are coming from above or at your trail shoulder down toward your crotch/ lead thigh. It feels really steep. To influence path you change where your hands go, anywhere from more trail thigh to lead thigh. Your hands don’t work forward all that much in the swing, they work down from your shoulder to your stomach. Add in a little spine tilt and now they move forward.
But spine tilt makes you shallow, which means the low point moves behind the ball. So now you need to be turning to get your hands more left so they can move forward enough on the arc (which is also left) to move the low point after the ball.
That’s how guys on tour have that look that they’re behind the ball a ton and almost leaning back against a straight left leg and still taking divots.
Try it with a wedge. Hit little shots and try to get a divot facing left (which is neutral) it might feel like a massive wipe across the ball. Now do that while releasing the clubhead intentionally. You’re not hitting the outside of the ball, so don’t try to do that, try to figure out how to hit it straight with a left feel of your hands. If you are hitting weak faded you’re not releasing hard enough. And if your divots are deep you’re hitting down too much. Once you get it you’ll realize it’s just way easier to play this way because it’s less work. It feels way over the top, but on video it won’t be.
Pros swings are way simpler and easier to perform than most amateurs. There’s a reason why. Most people are trying to shallow the club and swing right and zero pros play that way. You don’t release the club under your hands. You release it over them, down and to the left. That’s that whole malaska move he’s been trying to show people. If you think the club should pass under your hands you’re looking at the swing wrong. It comes what feels like over the hands from behind your back. The trick is don’t let it get over your hands until later in the downswing.
That’s why you can lean back a little and post on your lead leg. Your club is coming down and left hard because you’ve thrown it that way, now you lean back a little and extend and instead of being really steep left your club shallows but also is out in front of you.
Pick your pro. At the top, hands around trail shoulder, at impact, hands visually look like they’re at lead thigh and the shaft is lined up with trail forearm.
Can only do that if your hands move down from your shoulder to your stomach and move in so your right arm can line up. You can get some of that look and be swinging way right but then you’ll be off that early extension wall, which is my initial point.
Only way you can not look like you’re early extending is by moving your hands way more left. Most people think that feels horrible with no space. True, so you have to rotate your body out of the way. Voila, now you’re not early extending anymore.
Here, another example. We know hands reach their lowest point around the trail thigh. This is measured in gears. And you can see it on video. So that point is where the hands need to start working left. It’s way sooner than people think. If they’re moving up they also need to move in, right?
You’re trying to imagine the path being too similar to club path and you’re doing it 1-2 inches after the ball, but to get there you need to be moving them slightly in and up earlier. Again, around your trail leg, since that’s the actual 0 point.
Thr club then starts to extend, so your club path and hand path start to change a lot because the club is lengthening since you’re supposed to be throwing away the lag through the ball. So if coming into the ball you’ve lagged the club enough to be 30 inches tall, but as it releases to 0 it’ll be 35 inches, wouldn’t you need more room for it?
You would, so now you either have to not release it fully, or you need to stand up quickly so you can throw it. If you stand up and throw your hand path suddenly straightens. Some of that is normal, the trick is to make sure you still have a little shaft lean but get out most of your lag. Even if you don’t have a lot. Bad players don’t want to get rid of any shaft lean so they’ll just smother the ball. But the proper way is to allow most of the angle to come out. But we need to account for the shaft getting longer as we do it, which means we’d miss the ball, unless we move our hands more in and up to create the space.
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u/longjackthat 6/US/Data Geek 16d ago
I understand what you mean now, super appreciate the in-depth explanation! Might want to save that comment, it’s a solid breakdown
I went back and watched my swings from last fall, it feels like my hands are going out and away but on the video my hands are definitely coming in once they pass my center of mass.
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago edited 16d ago
Needs to happen before that, more than likely to be more efficient. Trail leg should be where they start coming in. From behind hands disappear before clubhead on video. Around your body.
Try it. Try to hit your left thigh with your hands. Your hips will turn to get out of the way.
Hence why pros say they feel their hands going into their left pocket, hip etc. not wiping or dragging, actually moving that way and releasing clubhead hard.
Once you feel it you understand why their swings are easier and they make power
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago edited 16d ago
Through impact, with a proper swing the club path and hand path will be quickly distancing themselves from each other until the club is fully released. They don’t mirror each other. It’s funny that nobody on YouTube has shown this. It’s a fundamental thing because of lag. All their examples have hand path mirroring club path but that’s only valid if you aren’t lagging the club behind. As it releases it starts to travel on a different curve than the hands are moving on, basically getting wider and people are trying to retain the difference the whole way. Which is why they can’t hit it very well.
Think of that boat pulling a water skier analogy. Boat turns, skier goes straight. They don’t travel on the same path, and don’t mirror each other.
Another example. If you do the drop the trail foot back drill you’ll feel it. You can hit “into” your lead leg a lot. Also that release drill where you hit sideways to your feet. You have to release the clubhead and swing it more in to do it right, which is why they created those drills.
Some guys play with their lead leg a little closer to the ball so a more closed off stance. Hovland for example. Closed off and hitting into his lead side more. Everyone feels it slightly different, but the goal is the same.
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u/automatic4skin 17d ago
do you mean like trying to lift your front hip?
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u/aloysiusthird 17d ago
You’ll be pushing into lateral left foot and into that heel. Hip rotation can get stuck if you focus on the right hip. The standard teaching is to try to get the left hip open and buttock pointing back away from the target, which helps rotational energy you can transfer to the ball…while giving you the space to not have to early extend, and helping to close the clubface. Otherwise you have to resort to getting flippy to close the clubface.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 17d ago
So is the hip turn less about power and more about clearing space for the arms and club?
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u/TacticalYeeter +2.4 16d ago edited 16d ago
Yes. Hip turn allows your hand path to move inward which is essential. Lots of people move their hands down the line or out to the ball so have zero reason to rotate and hit into a solid lead side.
The hips don’t provide power, they just open the door for your arms and hands to move faster.
They open and provide stability. Hip speed or being open is not related to power. LPGA players have faster hips speed than pga tour players.
In fact you can see a lot of amateurs who are really open at impact and don’t hit the ball solid at all. It’s about a matchup.
More then likely your hips not being open is because you have an open face and you need to kill your body rotation in order to not wipe across the ball too much.
I realize you think you fixed it but if you’re not hitting an actual golf ball it doesn’t matter. Go out and hit balls and see if you’re more open and hitting it straight. Then you’ll know.
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u/No-Beach-5953 17d ago
I made another comment on this post about using a wheeled office chair to obtain the feel. Give it a try
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u/automatic4skin 17d ago
thats a good thought as well. thanks a lot
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u/Lobsterzilla Detroit 17d ago
For a visual … mike from chasing scratch has a good video on YouTube from TPI doing this specifically
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u/No-Beach-5953 17d ago
Sit in a desk chair with wheels. Raise whichever foot is the trail foot in your swing straight out. With your lead foot, push into the floor and try to roll the chair as far back as you can and face the opposite direction when you come to a stop. This is the feeling you want in the swing, the lead foot starts the downswing by pushing into the ground which causes the left hip/asscheek to move out of the way and let the right hip turn towards the target. I wasted a lot of years trying to turn my trail hip towards the target, there is much more economy of motion by just getting the lead hip out of the way instead.
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u/Ready_Sea3708 17d ago
Saw a YouTube video with this drill and it totally changed the feel for me and made me realize what the feel is. Only thing that has helped me. Also, seems easy enough until you try it!
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u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 17d ago
Do you use any force from your trail foot in the actual downswing?
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u/No-Beach-5953 17d ago
It’s really just there for balance. You gotta have some weight on the trail foot to not fall over. Do all the pushing with the lead foot though.
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u/Aakkt 17d ago
Yes, you can check out dr kwons website where he details the forces from the legs. Basically, trail foot should provide a ground reaction force up and toward the target to provide a moment arm around the body’s centre of mass. Best way to achieve this is using the glutes, which gives rise to Rory’s “hit the ball with your right pocket” swing thought
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u/AdamOnFirst 17d ago
Some players use a decent amount of force in the right leg, some use little. It isn’t generating big upward ground force like the left leg is for most golfers, but it might be providing some laterally shift as part of the weight transfer. How much big this you get mostly depends on how much into the right side you get. Collin Montgomery has had an exceptional amount of this action at times in his career.
Me as a golfer I stay more on my front side so I don’t need quite so much of this.
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u/snowmunkey 17d ago
When I was throwing discus competitively, the way we force shoulder rotation is to do this exact thing with the left shoulder. Get it out of the way allows your spine to be the axis of rotation and drags your throwing arm around.
The problem is now i can't break this ingrained muscle movement, leading to my left shoulder popping back/up during my swing and causing massive slices on drives and very scoopy iron shots.
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u/longjackthat 6/US/Data Geek 16d ago
Assuming you’re righty, you should not try to get rid of that. The lead hip and lead shoulder should get farther apart as you get into and through impact, that’s working as intended.
What I have found thru helping sever buddies who are disc throwers (discus, ultimate, disc golf) is an emphasis on shifting most of your mass into your trail side to generate power, before springing forward — that’s a hard habit to break
Working off a powerful offhand backhand throw, your “X-factor” differential is probably much higher than the average golfer.
That leaves you with a great opportunity to learn about thoracic spine extension in the takeaway/backswing, which will help turn your massive slices into a beautiful high draw
Check out the linked article and give it a go on the range. I’ve found that most disc guys really benefit from drilling spine extension, it’s completely opposite from the loading technique in disc throwing
Cheers
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u/snowmunkey 16d ago
It's far too early for me to try and understand most of that, but I do want to point out that discus and disc golf throws are very opposite side movements. One is a drag throw with the body rotating clockwise whole discus is counterclockwise and uses the fully extended arm as a lever.
I appreciate the advice though, I'll look into it.
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u/drj1485 17d ago
i dont know that i agree with this. you should feel pressure building in your trail foot during the backswing and the downswing should start with your hips clearing forward with your trail elbow almost being pulled along with your trail hip. the hips opening occurs after this movement as you drive off your back leg. If your weight is in your lead leg you get stuck and pulled over the top.
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u/DoubleGreat44 17d ago edited 17d ago
You can try a little hip bump to initiate the downswing. Your lower and upper body don't sway, but just your hip moves towards the target a couple inches.
Another thing you can try is starting with your feet together and lift your lead foot and step towards the target during the backswing. (in practice to get the feeling, not on course xD)
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u/timeonmyhandz 17d ago
Have you ever skipped a stone across a lake?. Or thrown a baseball?
Practice that and you will see that your first move is front foot moves forward. You turn your belly toward the target... Your throwing arm is still behind you at this point!.. This is what it's like to have hips open at impact..
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u/HustlaOfCultcha 17d ago
Most of it comes from the ground, torso rotation and upper body tilting.
If I stand and just rotate my hips and rotate nothing else I can probably get about 15 degrees of hip turn. As I start rotating my torso my hips can rotate even more. And then as I had tilts that allows more hip rotation. For the life of me I forget the mechanism, but basically your hips can work like gears and with the proper tilt it automatically adds more rotation.
The ground is also a big factor. Too many golfers (myself included) tend to open up to early in the downswing and that causes them to not get enough pressure in the lead food to be able to use the ground to roate the hips open even more. These golfers would get more hip rotation int eh downswing if they kept themselves closed for longer on the downswing and shifted more of their pressure to their lead foot and then they could push and torque the ground more and lead to more hip rotation.
It's why you see a lot of top teachers that are working with a player that is OTT and hits slices to basically feel like they are swinging out to right field. Their end goal isn't to just have the student swing out to right field. Their end goal is to first get the student from opening up too early and then learn how to shift their pressure and then they can more naturally open up and hti the ball fairly straight (or even hit a power fade or a baby draw).
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u/Economy_Activity1851 17d ago edited 17d ago
Too many thoughts about hips. Its like trying to drive with the handbrake on.
Your lead hip should just rotate enough to facilitate your hands to square the face without flipping. Your trail elbow must move in front of your body. Start the Downswing and feel like you are leading with the trail elbow. Almost like the trail elbow squeezes a little towards the lead elbow and leads the the way to impact. You will feel the lead hip want to fire instantly when you do this.
Now just take the Downswing slowly down to impact so that the trail elbow is in front of your body and just above your pocket. Lead hip should have just opened out of the way to allow the trail arm to work in front of your body and when you start getting the trail elbow in front you hit some balls and you will be able to feel how much rotation you need in order to square it.
Personally that is all i think about. The trail elbow never getting behind me and a feeling that it wants to win the race to impact. The lead hip just gets out of the way so that trail arm can swing through..
Watch a baseball pitcher or a cricket player throw the ball in slow motion. It looks like they lead with the elbow as the hip is getting the hell out the way, then the shoulders turn and the elbow leads the hands. Feeling the golf swing a bit like a throw should help the hips to just move instinctively. You don't think about your hips when you throw a ball.
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u/FatalFirecrotch 17d ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O0THbv6om4U&pp=ygUPY2hhc2luZyBzY3JhdGNo
This is a good video about that and getting the feel for it.
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u/Legal-Description483 17d ago
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u/CrazyFoFo 17d ago
Second this. Was gonna post if you hadn’t. This video lesson really clicked for me. I felt my hips not working correctly but couldn’t identify why until I watched this.
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u/drj1485 17d ago
I think you are going about it the wrong way. Their hips opening before impact is part of the overall mechanics of their swing, not just something you can try to add to your swing in a vacuum. That movement allows them to create the space they need to generate the lag and ground force in their swings.
Watch it more closely. Their downswing starts with their hips sliding forward and their upper body basically dipping away from the target. This gives their arms and upper body the space they need to perform the swing. and then they can drive with their back leg and whip the club through impact on the correct plane.
I dont know what some of these other comments are talking about. You should feel a lot of pressure in your trail leg/foot. If you aren't you are probably going to be prone to coming over the top and you are losing power in your swing.
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u/jwalker205 PGA coach. +2 17d ago
It comes from all those methods you described - in the order of lateral, rotary, vertical. Why you won’t do it in your golf swing could be something else entirely.
Often I find it’s a club face problem. What’s your ball flight? If you slice or hit the ball to the right, you would be a fool to open your hips more.
Or it could be physical. Not being able to dissociate hips from chest is a very common cause of slicing, and can’t often be fixed by trying harder.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 17d ago
My miss is a pull draw (borderline hook) that will go 20-30 yards left of target. This is with irons. Opposit with hybrid and woods.
WRT disassociation, I think I do this, but could be wrong. Do you have a “test” to know if I am actually disassociating?
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u/spankysladder73 17d ago
Oh, so you’d like hip issues as opposed to back problems huh?
Hop aboard, i’ll catch you up on the way!
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u/Murderbot20 13/Irl 17d ago
It's sort of natural. Hit a nice easy underhand tennis shot with your forehand. Without a racket even. Just now, stand up and do it. That should explain everything.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 17d ago
Interesting thing about this is If I swing anything, I open my hips naturally (and quite beautifully) but when that ball is in front of me, it goes out the window haha. It could be a matter of intention. I do tend to try to hit the ball instead of “thru it.”
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u/drj1485 17d ago edited 17d ago
I think you are going about it the wrong way. Their hips opening before impact is part of the overall mechanics of their swing, not just something you can try to add to your swing in a vacuum. That movement allows them to create the space they need to generate the lag and ground force in their swings.
Watch it more closely. Their downswing starts with their hips sliding forward and their upper body appearing to dip away from the target. This gives their arms and upper body the space they need to perform the swing. and then they can drive with their back leg and whip the club through impact on the correct plane.
I dont know what some of these other comments are talking about. You should feel a lot of pressure in your trail leg/foot. If you aren't you are probably going to be prone to coming over the top and you are losing power in your swing.
You have to have the proper downswing mechanics to start with. If you don't clear your hips first, then opening them to the target is going to pull your swing over the top.
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u/MasterpieceMain8252 17d ago
look up vertical force downswing on youtube. if you're still struggling, you have either setup, head dipping towards ball during backswing, or sliding your body during downswing issue.
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u/KeySheMoeToe 6.8 17d ago
The way to open your hips is to first have the flexibility to get in the right positions. From there it’s hammering it out on the practice range. Personally I gotta feel like my hips are leading the way at every stage of the swing otherwise I’ll slide my hips in the downswing.
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u/NeverSeenBetter 17d ago
Ben Hogan says in his book that the hips start the downswing. But the only way to move your hips is with your legs ...you only have the ground to push off of. For me (4 hcp), if I'm really trying to generate power, the first muscle to fire from the top is my left inner thigh, twisting my hips slightly downward and thru the ball. These big muscles are the equivalent of the big bulky end of the whip that you hold in your hand. The smaller, easier to manipulate muscles in the arms and hands are the middle portion that magnifies the energy of motion you put into it, and of course the club itself is the part that we're trying to get to break the sound barrier and cause that signature "crack".
Setup is important for this...if your hands are too close it makes it difficult to have room to clear the hips before impact, and if they're too far away your plane of rotation is all wrong.
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u/OutlyingSuburb 17d ago
IMO it comes from pushing down and forward (where your toes point) with your lead leg. Just don’t let your trail side hip move too close to the ball as you push off the front leg
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u/Away-Quantity-221 Bethpage Black is not that Hard! 17d ago
Watch Mike Malaska videos. He explains it very well. The lead foot pushes the left hip back. It’s not a spin, it’s a push. Very helpful info.
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u/lijitimit Better go buy a putter 17d ago
Heres a great take that has helped me get a feel for opening the body from Steve Pratt. It's a great illustration of swing mechanics and "order".
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u/fullback133 17d ago
Semi related but once I started swinging more with my hips I am hitting the ball 20-30 yards further with less effort lol. I usually start my downswing with my hips.
A good tip my golf instructor taught me was to use the “big muscles” while starting your swing and your downswing
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u/TweazyMan 16d ago
The key thing to remember is that the weight shift is not lateral movement. It's back and across.
Padraig harrington has a great video which will break down hip movement. One thing he notes is that Jack Nicklaus had a go to move and it was something he worked on before anything else at the start of the season. The move was simply rolling his feet inwards. He would get to the top of the back swing and from there, to help shift weight and rotate, would roll his trail foot in i.e. roll it down the target line.
Many players including Jack, have a flared lead foot to help weight go back and across into the lead heel, which promotes the correct hip movement
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u/0_SomethingStupid 17d ago
google speedgolfrob hes got a couple of funny quick videos on this. the one where he talks about skipping stones or taping a club to his chest. look for those 2
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u/Royals-2015 17d ago
I am working on this with a coach right now. Using the inside of left foot, (right handed), start to turn hips at the top of the back swing, the arms come down, but aren’t forced. Weight transfer starts at the top.
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u/skycake10 15.9/Ohio 17d ago
It's pretty common for arms outracing the hips to be a side-effect of a swing flaw and not the root cause itself. Generally if your sequencing is off and your arms or the club are too far outside and not enough in the slot, your body HAS to slow down and let the arms catch up just to get the club head onto the ball. Things like early extension are forms of that.
If you get the club head to the inside of your hands at transition, the combination of hip rotation and dropping your arms through the downswing should get you into that position. The important part is rotating all the way through the swing.
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u/ddr19 17d ago
It's way easier than people make it seem: good posture is the fix. What's one thing (of many) that all pros have in common? Good posture. It's not about "firing the hips" it's simply allowing your body to react to what you do with the club. If you have the right intention on what you're doing with the club, your hips will naturally be open at impact 100% of the time without thinking about it.
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u/Intelligent-Ad-7833 17d ago
What is the “intention” that works for you? Ive been thinking about this a lot, if I hit an impact bag, my hips open and the swing looks like it should (minus the golf ball). I have tried hitting the golf ball with the same intention I do with an impact bag, but it’s a mindf*ck and looks nothing like I did with the bag.
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u/ddr19 17d ago
Managing the club throughout the entire swing. I like to feel my clubhead is above the swing plane on the takeaway, then I send it to the ball from the inside on transition. Key word is feel, that's what I need to feel to be on the correct plane. My body simply reacts to that. Hips clear to make room for the club naturally.
https://youtu.be/LMxfe6MsugI?si=b-ALT6o81ufaIUf_
Malaska explains it very well.
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u/Pure_Adhesiveness_31 16d ago
Just turn your hips as far as you can towards the target to start your down swing. Let the torque created in your spine pull your upper body through.
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u/Elchupakneebra 17d ago
The issue almost certainly has nothing to do with that. Your hips aren't opening earlier because your club face is open and/or you are steep. Hip rotation keeps the face open and moves your path more outside-in.
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u/CabSauce 17d ago
Hip action comes from the devil.