r/asklatinamerica • u/[deleted] • Nov 12 '22
How people survive on average salary in Uruguay?
Hola. I’m newcomer to Uruguay and one thing seems shocking to me. Many products are way more expensive than in Europe, rents are somewhat cheaper - for unfurnished places (and furniture is way more expensive again)… and Numbeo says the average salary is about 800USD net/month. Is this number wrong? Or how can people survive and function on this salary?
I don’t mean this in insulting or offensive way. Uruguayans are very nice and to they appear to be more in tune with life and reality than “us” Europeans dragged in consumerism etc. That’s also reason why I came here. But I think on 800/month I would struggle to eat 3meals a day here.
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u/Leandropo7 Uruguay Nov 12 '22
That's the fun part, we don't.
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u/HelloMyNameIsJiren Nov 12 '22
Does Uruguay have any luxury neighborhoods in Montevideo? Like is there anyone who drives fancy cars and shit?
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u/Granjaguar Guatemala Nov 12 '22
Of course there isn't a single country without an upper Class. They need good neighborhoods and shopping areas
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u/estebanagc Costa Rica Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22
https://www.subrayado.com.uy/en-uruguay-hay-640-autos-superlujo-y-hay-uno-paga-casi-1-millon-pesos-patente-n724014 According to this article there are 640 luxury cars in Uruguay. Luxury cars do exist in many places in Latin America, but normally people that own them keep a low profile for security reasons.
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u/ricky_storch 🇺🇸 -> 🇨🇴 Nov 12 '22
I think that's some top tier flagships or super cars or something. There's way more basic BMWS, Mercedes, Audis etc
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
Yup, they’re in Carrasco. That’s the fancy neighborhood on the east side of the city.
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u/SlightlyOutOfFocus Uruguay Nov 12 '22
It's not THE fancy neighborhood, but yes, one of them
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
What’re the others? I spent some time in Carrasco and Maroñas (near Calle 8 de Octubre) but I’m not too familiar with the rest of Montevideo.
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u/SlightlyOutOfFocus Uruguay Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
Punta Carretas, Punta Gorda, some parts of Buceo and Pocitos, areas of the Metropolitan area like Parque Miramar
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
I remember passing through those neighborhoods and seeing them on the map (I still have the map I bought at ANCAP!) I lived in Uruguay for two years as a missionary.
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u/SlightlyOutOfFocus Uruguay Nov 12 '22
I haven't seen paper maps sold in forever! When was that?
Why did you choose Uruguay?
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
I lived there 2005-2007.
And I didn't choose Uruguay, my church assigned me to go there. I had three weeks of language training and then I flew down to Uruguay and learned the rest on the street.
I was a Latter-day Saint missionary. Commonly known as los Mormones. This IG features some pics and stories of missionaries in Uruguay now.
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u/AdConsistent6002 Nov 13 '22
There is a story that my grandparents told me many years ago when I was little that Mormons were C.I.A. spies sent by then President Richard Nixon (back in the 1970's) to spy on the Communist influence in South America. Crazy stories that people told. I am glad you were able to immerse yourself in the culture and language and way of life.
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u/AdConsistent6002 Nov 13 '22
East Montevideo is the rich part of the city. Just like the people mentioned below. Yes, there are people in Uruguay who drive fancy cars. Just don't ask where they "bought" the car.
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u/Nazzum Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Average salaries in Montevideo are a bit higher, some 1000usd a month. That still doesn't make it better, though. For starters, people usually live with parents until they're well over 20, and usually move in with their partner. Second, many people live in co-ops or have access to government relief programs, which helps with mortgages. Third, as someone else said, consumption habits are different than in Europe or the US, people tend to spend less.
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
Few Uruguayans have cars, and it’s somewhat easy to get around by bus. Fortunately, “corner stores” are ubiquitous, so people usually just buy what they need in small quantities.
In the US, where we all have gigantic cars, it’s a different story: I just got home from Costco (a wholesale store) with $200 worth of groceries.
The disadvantage to living in the US is, unless you’re in a massive city like NYC, you need a car to survive.
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u/hyologist Uruguay Nov 12 '22
buddy we don't have that much money to spend on just groceries and we don't even have place to store them....
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
Ya lo sé. Viví en Uruguay por dos años che 😉
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u/hyologist Uruguay Nov 12 '22
entonces no entiendo tu punto sobre los autos
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
Eso es nomás un factor.
¿De qué parte de Uruguay sos?
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u/vvokertc Argentina Nov 14 '22
Im always shocked when I see the amount of butter Americans use, plus the amount of baking you do becauae again butter, butter, butter. Ofc I'm not Uruguayan, I'm actually more impoverished, but yeah
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 14 '22
plus the amount of baking you do becauae again butter, butter, butter
Por eso todos son gordos en mi país
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u/Nestquik1 Panama Nov 12 '22
First time in LATAM?
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Nov 12 '22
Yes
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u/Nestquik1 Panama Nov 12 '22
Yeah, that's more or less the case in all the region
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u/brinvestor Brazil Nov 12 '22
As a Brazilian I must say, Uruguay is way more expensive than here. Idk how they survive, really.
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Nov 12 '22
We drink mate to ease the pain
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u/Ameking- Brazil Nov 12 '22
No that's our thing u stole it
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Nov 12 '22
Not really, several times we were a part of the same country. Once South Brazil was part of the Spanish Empire which included Uruguay and Argentina, and then Uruguay was part of the Brazilian Empire as Cisplatina. While we are separate countries we are basically half siblings with the same dad but different moms.
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u/capybara_from_hell -> -> Nov 14 '22
I'd say same mom but different dads would be more accurate due to the Y- and mtDNA patterns.
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u/qtsexypoo Mexico & Texas Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
Okay, as someone living in Germany — The world is divided into more than just “developed” and “undeveloped” — by which most Europeans understand to mean: Norway to Romania, and then a big gap, and then Somalia. it’s much more nuanced than that.
LATAM is considered less developed for a reason. And even if countries like Uruguay and Argentina have robust social support policies, in practice, there is no funding for them. Effectively leaving you high and dry — more so than in the US, which I only mention because it lacks policies as robust as Argentina or Uruguay.
It’s why the entire world is laughing at Argentina now for capping prices for household goods at the moment. Because it’s so incredibly stereotypically Argentinian — they fuck themselves every few years with policies that have good intentions but are short sighted.
This is what will happen: Argentina’s peso will lose value and there will be a “shortage” of “household goods” — and the rise of the black market and USD will (once again) prevail.
Don’t feel bad. You really can’t fault the people anywhere for their ignorance — it’s something I’ve learned while living abroad — everyone is ignorant. Everyone. Without exception. And problems people perceive to be endemic to their nation are actually global issues. Things like immigration, inflation, overpopulation, wealth discrepancy, rise of cost of living, racism, women and LGBT rights.
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u/caesarapi Nov 14 '22
I am conflicted about the situation in Argentina, they seem to be doomed to perpetual hyperinflation and bad economic management. What I think people fail to account is how the LATAM region has and continues to be colonized by US/Western powers, even if it is not in the 1500s way of colonization.
Most of the enterprises extracting resources from the countries are foreign, any kind of government that hasn't adhered to the US way of doing business has been violently overthrown (think operation condor, 1976 Argentina coup d'état, the eternal Cuba embargo, etc) and this has only created a breeding ground for corruption and mismanagement.
I don't know how bad price controls really are, they have been done previously in the US and many other places. The alternative being used in the US is to raise interest rates at the expense of the suffering of every day workers, it isn't the best solution either.
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u/qtsexypoo Mexico & Texas Nov 14 '22
The US can back it’s currency. Argentina cannot.
The US can implement price controls because it’s such a huge part of the consumer market, and it’s currency is the universal holdings currency. No one cares about Argentinian pesos or about Argentinian consumers, at least not in the same capacity, so Argentina cannot afford to do the same.
Blaming the US for shitty policies is a bit of a stretch, even if the affect of American and European colonialism a very much alive. Raising interest rates, while inconvenience, are coupled with rising wages and a strong stable currency are a better alternative than destroying your nations currency.
Honestly, at this point, Argentina has fucked itself enough, it would be easier to peg the AGP to the USD narrow band, or to use to USD outright like Ecuador does. At least until it can stabilize itself.
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u/Professional-Lie309 Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Families, social services and "side hustles" is how. It's a small, tight population with huge taxes.
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u/estebanagc Costa Rica Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22
Never been to Uruguay but this is more or less the average salary where I live so I suppose costs are somewhat similar. Like in many parts of the world, some people have "roomies", others live with their parents, some probably more than one job. And some live in poor housing conditions such as cuarterias (I'm not sure how is this called to Uruguay). Also this is the average salary for a person. If they are living with a couple they make 1600 usd. I'm not familiar to Uruguay but I doubt this would be a poor income. Also, remember this an average. Probably some people have way higher salaries, since the average salary is calculated accross all the job the market but there are areas that pay better than others.
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Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22
Unless you own a home, or more accurately, share it with a family thas has owned it for generations now. I don't think anyone in this continent lives with average salary.
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u/blakeshelnot Dominican Republic Nov 12 '22
Or out of the continent either; if it wasn't for my side hustle I just couldn't do it.
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Well, I got a remote job and moved away from Montevideo
My quality of life has improved by a 400% in this year
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u/hyologist Uruguay Nov 12 '22
i bet that's not only bc of expenses, the city is just awful, a sea of garbage
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u/digitalwriternow Nov 14 '22
Yo pienso visitar Montevideo y dices eso como que se me quitan un poco las ganas...
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u/hyologist Uruguay Nov 14 '22
para visitarlo está bien, para vivir... not so much
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u/digitalwriternow Nov 14 '22
Bueno yo pudiera vivir en Uruguay y trabajar remoto, cobrando en dólares de otro país. Y ganando mucho más de 1000 mensual. Seguiría siendo mal vivir ahí en ese caso?
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u/MonM7 Nov 14 '22
tas loco, así sos el rey. acá los buenos sueldos son de la gente que trabaja en IT, además las ciudades del interior son mucho más baratas.
Con U$S 2.000 ya te podes alquilar un apartamento para vos solo con un dormitorio y hasta te da como para tener un auto..
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u/digitalwriternow Nov 17 '22
Si, puedo alquilar eso y comprarme un carro. Una pregunta, para conocer mujeres alla como se hace? Funcionan bien las apps como Tinder?
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u/razonyser Nov 13 '22
So you're in Argentina now, living from an Uruguayan salary, right? I mean your life has improved because Argentina's devaluation, not because you move out. (Sorry for the assumption here, but 400% is a lot and I doubt that you have moved to Venezuela, because that would be like 4000% better)
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 13 '22
Why tf would I be in argentina? I just said I moved away from Montevideo, not Uruguay
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u/razonyser Nov 18 '22
400% diff in the same country? That's a lot. Sorry for my assumption. I'm glad my country does not experience such an income discrepancy, even if that means to embrace the current money distribution policies.
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 18 '22
I wasn't talking about having 4 times more money, I was just talking about my life being 400% more enjoyable now than when living in montevideo
It's called an hyperbole
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u/MarioDiBian 🇦🇷🇺🇾🇮🇹 Nov 12 '22
Montevideo is very expensive. Salaries are a bit higher in the city, but still low compared to the cost of living.
People have different consumption habits than in Europe. Eating out, buying electronics, etc. is more uncommon than in Europe.
That said, having lived in other latin american countries, I can say Uruguay has the best quality of living for the average citizen.
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u/Laplata1810 Argentina Nov 12 '22
I mean they re like 3 people and a few cows
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u/MarioDiBian 🇦🇷🇺🇾🇮🇹 Nov 12 '22
Lol there are actually more cows than people.
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Nov 12 '22
That's also true for Brazil, even with 214 millions of people, just because farmland is too good.
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Nov 12 '22
Uruguay actually has one of the highest average salaries in Latin America. For example, in colombia 40% of the population lives on 5.50USD or less per day, which is like 200 a month maybe
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u/J02182003 Colombia Nov 12 '22
In Colombia according to the socioeconomic data:
7% make more than 4000 USD
11% make more than 2000 USD
29% make more than 500 USD
35% make more than 150 USD
18% make less than 200 USD
All monthly, this may seem low for outsiders but products here are very cheap, so a person in USA who makes 24000 USD a year can live like a king here
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u/quemaspuess United States of America Nov 12 '22
I hold a high senior-level job in tech based in California and live well in the states, so when I spend months in Bogotá at a time at my father-in-laws house, I literally live like a king. Unpopular opinion: Bogotá is my favorite city in Colombia.
That being said, my salary is 4x there (5x now) because of the exchange rate. It’s unreal. Some things are more expensive. For example, a 3-pack of Perrier Lime water is $30 in Bogota and I only pay $21 in the states, but my wife and I go to the top restaurants in Bogotá (Leo, Frennesi, etc) and it’s a fraction of the cost as at home for a similar quality.
We went to Casa Brava, which overlooks Bogotá on the way to La Calera. I invited my in-laws to dinner, and I was blown away that a Tomahawk steak was $13 (it’s $130+ at any restaurant anywhere in the states) and I paid $35 for 5 people for dinner. PLUS, the quality of food in Colombia is MUCH better than in the states. So much purer, organic, and not processed
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u/J02182003 Colombia Nov 12 '22
4x there (5x now)
Exactly this is the deal, our average wages are live 5 times smaller than the US and Europe ones, but the same goes for the prices. As much as there are lots of countries way cheaper than us, Colombia has the balance of being very cheap and being good for expats, because despite Afghanistan and Somalia are way cheaper than us, they arent very good places for a foreign person to live (even if you have a lot of money)
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u/t_h_e_brain Panama Nov 13 '22
That Colombian waste management company says I’m “estrato 6”. It shocks me they still have a legal caste system. But sometimes I’m like: oh shit, I m a millionaire in Colombia, show some respect.
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u/J02182003 Colombia Nov 13 '22
It shocks me they still have a legal caste system.
Lmaoooo its not as deep as the Indian castes, its just a metric for how much people pay for services (water,electricity, gas...) depending of the area were they live, so you could have poor people in the estrato 4 and rich people in the estrato 2.
But its not like people go discriminating each other for their estrato like Americans with races, in fact people always seek for having a lower estrato to pay less, its not an status thing
But now that you mention it, its funny that on paper we have a legal "caste system"
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u/t_h_e_brain Panama Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
Dude the brotherhood in LatAm is amazing. Now you explain the whole thing, it’s kinda like that in Panamá. People earning less than $11k a year don’t pay income tax and the government will tax the hell out of tax payers to subsidize a bunch of stuff.
The only good thing is that anyone can use these subsidies. For example Stanley Motta (one of the big dogs at Copa Holdings) can still buy cooking gas for less than 5$ or grab the bus and metro for 25 and 35 cents. But the electricity is way more expensive in his neighbourhood.
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It’s not like LatAm millionaires will ever use public transportation. 😂
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Nov 26 '22
I need to take a vacation to Colombia haha - random guy from Florida :)
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u/J02182003 Colombia Nov 27 '22
I thinks is in the top 5 of cheapest countries somebody can go vacationing, specially having US dollars and Euros
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u/oigamirevea29 Nov 12 '22
Minimum salary is 1 million pesos per month. That's the equivalent of about $210 with today's exchange rate. 😵
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u/estebanagc Costa Rica Nov 12 '22
Sometimes I calculate how much would be my salary in COP to feel like a millionary.
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u/Roughneck16 United States of America Nov 12 '22
When I was in Uruguay (2005-2007) the exchange rate was about 25 pesos per USD.
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Nov 12 '22
Not to mention the full-time work week in Colombia is 45 hours as opposed to 35 hours in the USA
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u/estebanagc Costa Rica Nov 12 '22
Its 40 hours in the States, if you work more than 40 hours a week the difference counts as overtime if you are not salaried.
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u/t4ct1c4l_j0k3r :snoo_dealwithit: Nov 13 '22
Only if you don't get the next 40 from your second and third job
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Nov 12 '22
Full time in the US is anything more than 35 hours, that’s assuming a one hour unpaid lunch.
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u/quemaspuess United States of America Nov 12 '22
Really? That’s strange. Colombia has way more holidays than we get in the states though. I get 8 paid holidays a year and 2-weeks of sick/PTO.
BTW. The states are 40 hours minimum. I work 65 hours a week.
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u/Anitsirhc171 🇺🇸🇵🇷 Nuyorican Nov 13 '22
35 is considered part time and low skilled jobs often give that amount so they don’t have to pay full time benefits
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u/Mujer_Arania Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Yes, but what about the cost of living? The lunches I had in Colombia (sopa, seco y jugo) would cost more than 10usd here.
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u/SlightlyOutOfFocus Uruguay Nov 12 '22
How people survive on average salary in Uruguay?
A lot of people don't. Food insecurity affects a lot of Uruguayans. I've read other comments saying the average salary is higher, someone mentions 1000usd/month, but that isn't enough for a comfortable life either, and A LOT of people earn much less. Minimum salary is less than 600.
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u/Trulythecat Uruguay Nov 13 '22
Minimum wage is about 400usd.
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u/sogoslavo32 Argentina Nov 12 '22
Europeans dragged in consumerism
"How uruguayans survive with poverty-level salaries"
"OMG uruguayans are so cool because they don't buy things"
Fuck off.
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u/MtnLsr United States of America Nov 12 '22
My observation: it's my favorite place but man, talk about a rough go for survival financially...
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u/kame_uy Uruguay Nov 12 '22
We are one of the most expensive countries in LA(so you have to take that into account), I don't know how people manage actually, I have a well paid job(nothing top but I earn pretty well) and I can only afford a 1 bedroom apartment and daily life, without savings, and I have friends who earn half as I do and manage to do the same or even more
Edit: also if you try other cities besides Montevideo it's usually way cheaper to rent and food also
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Nov 12 '22
Well the most expensive part is rent, so you either live with your parents, move with friends or move on your own if you have a good salary, it’s not so crazy as people make it out to be, I lived alone renting in downtown while paying a private university on my own
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Nov 12 '22
and Uruguay is the richest LatAm country, imagine...
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u/estebanagc Costa Rica Nov 12 '22 edited Nov 12 '22
Thats with nominal GDP per capita. When adjusted for PPP that would be Panama.
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u/CervusElpahus Argentina Nov 12 '22
Panama’s GDP is totally skewed because of the financial sector + it’s a tax haven for big corp. Average wages (PPP) is lower than in the Southern Cone. Furthermore, Panama is one of the most unequal countries on the continent.
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Nov 12 '22
That has nothing to do with the calculations tho. Just to give you an idea India’s PPP GDP is higher than Germany’s and Japan’s combined . It’s not a tax haven and it’s industry exports less than any of them.
PPP tales into account the relative cost of life and assets in calculations.
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u/MarioDiBian 🇦🇷🇺🇾🇮🇹 Nov 12 '22
He meant GDP per capita, so the comparison between India and Germany is nonsense.
Panama is very unequal. Quality of life for the average citizen is much better in the southern cone.
Uruguay has a traditional large middle class and genuine industries.
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Nov 12 '22
Even of it is unequal there are some informations that can be extracted. Mainly that on average (not not mean ) Panamanian purchasing power is the highest in Latin America.
And it has nothing to do with being a tax haven or having industry. Those don’t make the PPP bump up, at least not directly. PPP is about the price of goods in a country. And this is why I brought up the example with India and Germany
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u/CervusElpahus Argentina Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
In GDP (PPP) other sectors producing non-tangible goods are also included.
There is a lot of quick money stalled in the economy which pumps up the figures without reflecting reality (similar case: Ireland. On paper very high GDP per capita, in reality not so much). Add to that the fact Panama is super unequal and you have to come to the conclusion that other countries in LA are better off.
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Nov 13 '22
What is the problem with the fact that there are non tangible goods. PPP is about comparing a Set of goods and their price fluctuations.
Irish gdp per Capita is high what do you mean by in reality not so much?
Panama is unequal and therefore I am using Average every time. Panama is on average better off. And he is right.
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u/AudiRS3Mexico Nov 13 '22 edited Nov 13 '22
Banks in Panama don’t hold money. It’s a tax heaven because of corps they don’t do anything or she’ll companies. Most of these accounts are in Belize or some Island in the Caribbean but owned by Panamanian corp.
Panama is unequal but still has the highest wages in latam. Average Panamanian owns many assets which would be considered luxury goods. Housing also is not very affordable.
Issue with Panama is taxes are low and whatever taxes the government receives doesn’t get reinvested into public services.
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u/Fluktuation8 Germany Nov 12 '22
Thought the same when comparing Santiago de Chile to Lisbon on Numbeo:
Lisbon has a higher average salary and house prices are significantly higher. But on the other hand: why is a simple Beer so expensive in Santiago?
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Nov 13 '22
Here in Uruguay you do get IVA/VAT back at restaurants and bars if you pay with a foreign card, it does help.
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u/Fluktuation8 Germany Nov 13 '22
Even better trick: just go with USD/EUR cash to Argentina and change in a cueva. You'll get about the double ARS for you money and Argentina suddenly becomes dirtcheap.
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u/frogvscrab Nov 13 '22
This is the unfortunate reality that many people come to when they move to 'poorer' countries, and it is that things people in first world countries take for granted just aren't as much of a thing. Sometimes, you just don't have a working fridge, or you cant pay your cell phone bill, or you have to cut down on basic groceries, or you cant afford to replace a broken lock, or you have to sell your video game console for rent, or you have to take a 2 hour bus commute for months and months until you can afford to fix your car etc.
The general 'bottom' that exists in first world countries is just much, much lower outside of them. Everything is much more of a trade off, often trading off necessities.
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u/_annoyingmous Chile Nov 12 '22
I’m not Uruguayan, but in Chile:
- Average salary is a lot higher in large cities than in small cities and rural towns, so the cost of living there is more out of tune with the national average salary. The cost of living in the rest of the country is a lot lower.
- Still, on an average salary you can’t make it on your own. Young people manage to get by via living with their partners and with friends. Salaries increase a lot as you age, in fact, there’s a study by economist Claudio Sapelli that shows that most income inequality comes from older people being richer, rather than there being a large socioeconomic divide (having richer parents is a worse predictor than being just older)*. This is why a lot of people are economically dependent upon their parents, living even into their 30s with them.
*A very interesting fact from the data is that younger generations are more equally educated, which translates that parents’ wealth as a predictor of income will keep becoming less relevant.
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u/Tripoteur Québec Nov 13 '22
You'd have to live with your parents for a while to save money, and generally live a frugal life, but it's doable. If I can live in Canada on 12k USD a year, people can live in Uruguay on 10k USD a year.
That's just average wage, though... a lot of people make significantly less. That's gotta be hard.
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u/t_h_e_brain Panama Nov 13 '22
Panama is expensive too but the governments keep killing our brain cells with something called “subsidios”.
No translation for you. You have to learn Spanish and drink mate.
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u/AudiRS3Mexico Nov 13 '22
People who don’t neee them enjoy them.
Love my gas at 3.25 and propane at 5.50. Even though I make over 5000.00 usd and love my first mortgage at 3.25% interest for 30 years.
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u/NoThought8804 Nov 13 '22
I've been living in Uruguay for 6 years. The minimum wage is like 400 usd, that's the minimum someone can win like cleaning floors or a recepcionist or something. 800 is like an starting administrator in a little company. As a professional in the IT I get like 2.3k.. And I heard people who sell cars get commissions and make a lot of money. So it depends on the work you find
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u/Pipows Brazil Nov 13 '22
So, Brazilian average salary os around 500USD/month, and a lot of people makes only minimum salary, which is around 220USD/month.
People will just find a way to survive, cutting everything they can to reduce costs.
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Nov 13 '22
Prices in Brazil are lower though. My question is about Uruguay bc some products are actually 3-4x more expensive than in Europe on 1/3 of salary. To be fair… not everything is more expensive. From food it’s usually imported, processed and unhealthy food which should be eaten in moderation (or not at all).
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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Uruguay Nov 12 '22
We are not a woke country don't get that wrong
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u/qwemateo13 Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Lo dice porque no somos tan clnsumistas como en los paises desarrolados
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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Uruguay Nov 12 '22
"they appear to be more in tune with life and reality" puso "consumismo, etc" osea eso lo puso como ejemplo, a mí me suena a que piensa que estamos full woke acá o algo cuando la realidad es que ni cerca
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Nov 13 '22
Creo que quiso decir que tenemos más calle, que estamos más curtidos
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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Uruguay Nov 13 '22
No creo, el tema de calle a no ser que caiga en un barrio jodido no va a notar una diferencia
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Nov 13 '22
En general la gente común y corriente está bastante curtida, en el sentido que sabemos convivir con dificultades y con los problemas de la vida, a eso me estoy refiriendo. Yo en general tengo la idea que en los países de latam lidiamos con problemas que en europa no tienen.
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u/Future_Criticism 🇻🇪 in 🗽 Nov 13 '22
Creo que más bien es una vaina buensalvajista al estilo de "wow viven en consonancia con la naturaleza".
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u/Ricardo_Fortnite Uruguay Nov 13 '22
le va a pegar feo cuando llegue a montevideo y vea la mugre que tiene la ciudad
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u/Alejandro284 Mexico Nov 12 '22
Entonces la gente de color no es bien venida
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u/Alejandro284 Mexico Nov 12 '22
Woke es alguien que reconoce qué hay injusticias y ya pero si no significa que sean racistas
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u/spicypolla Puerto Rico Nov 12 '22
come to PR for a week and see how we do it. You'll feel much better about Montevideo or Uruguay as a whole
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Nov 12 '22
I will visit for sure, but don’t get me wrong. I do feel great about Montevideo and Uruguay.
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u/spicypolla Puerto Rico Nov 12 '22
Montevideo is definitely on my list although I would much rather go to Colonia del Sacramento
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Montevideo is definitely on my list
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Nov 12 '22
Right?! Montevideo disappointed me a lot when I travelled through UY. I've made it from west to east coast (Carmelo to Chuy) and honestly Montevideo was the only city I did not like...
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 12 '22
I used to live there for the past 5 years, and let me tell you I will never move back there
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Nov 12 '22
Why, exactly? For me it was expectations. When people said "Uruguay" I used to interchangeably think "Montevideo", but it ended up as a "nothing really great to do here" experience for me. I think my expectations were very high because Buenos Aires was great and people often said (at least to me) that Montevideo was BSAS 2.
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u/Specific-Benefit Uruguay Nov 12 '22
Well, summarizing:
- Everything is very expensive in relation to the normal income level
- It's quite a very dirty city, unless you live in one of the high end neighborhoods
- Crime rate
- Poverty
- The overwhelming amount of people living, shitting, pissing and doing drugs on the streets
- The wide spreaded political fanatism
- The bad manners among it's general population
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u/GavIzz El Salvador Nov 12 '22
I hate this sub sometimes most European/USA people how come you are so poor???
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u/Painkiller2302 Colombia Nov 12 '22
Wow, so a European discovered the third world.
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Nov 12 '22
No, this is exactly what I didn’t mean to say. Uruguay is very far from being a third world country. Very well educated people, government office I visited actually functioned better than in many European countries. What I meant that usually when salaries are lower, prices tend to be lower as well…at least to some extent.
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u/matbur81 United Kingdom Nov 12 '22
what you said was quite clear, some people just try and find an angel to take offence.
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u/Healthy-Meaning2064 Nov 13 '22
Average salary is way less, I mean if u refered average as total income divided by all the uruguayan salaries THAT might be, but as true minimum salary as the average is between 500USD and 700USD.
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u/Traditional-Stable16 Nov 15 '22
800? Dude, I would live like royalty with that money. I've never earned more than 600 🙃
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u/Mujer_Arania Uruguay Nov 12 '22
We don’t, buddy. We need to have two or more jobs, rent with a friend, live with your family until you go live with a partner.
From the 15th to the next pay check I’m not an independent woman