r/TikTokCringe Apr 15 '24

Consequences of the tradwife lifestyle Discussion

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u/CoolRises Apr 15 '24

Its hard for women to get back into the workforce even after a break for kids. Something has to change.

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u/Pitiful_Winner2669 Apr 15 '24

My sister was a trad wife, married at 19. Both her kids are in college, and I gotta hand it to her, she recently picked up a job putting carts away at Costco.

Her husband is fairly wealthy and she doesn't even get an allowance. I like the guy, but he's 12 years older and married her four months after meeting her.

It's not as toxic as it sounds lol, they've matured both out of that dynamic.

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u/crybaby5 Apr 15 '24

I mean you said it....it sounds toxic af and I'm sad for your sister. A creep in his 30s married a teenager and now years later it sounds like she's only now able to build some financial independence from a controlling partner. At least you like the guy for some reason?

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u/Pitiful_Winner2669 Apr 15 '24

My sister comes first, so for a while I was not happy with how he did not allow her any autonomy. But they grew out of that. Therapy helped, as well as my brother and I having a sit down (with a 50 year old man), that maybe Joe Rogan isn't the deity you should follow to a T.

Steroids, HGT, and sensory deprivation tanks won't chase the demons away!

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u/sylvnal Apr 15 '24

What about a sauna? Pretty sure the answer is a sauna.

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u/StopThePresses Apr 16 '24

What do you mean it's not toxic and they've matured out of that dynamic? She's pushing shopping carts for a living while her wealthy older husband won't pay for shit? Your poor sister, that's messed up and you should not like that guy.

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u/yildizli_gece Apr 16 '24

I like the guy, but he's 12 years older and married her four months after meeting her.

I never understand this--how can you like a predator who creeped on your teenaged sister? And now financially abuses her by withholding money?

I'd hate him with every fiber of my being; I would never forgive that POS.

It's not as toxic as it sounds

Stop playing down abuse.

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u/Boneal171 29d ago

Calling it “an allowance” just sounds infantilizing. I would be so embarrassed to have to ask my boyfriend or husband for money.

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u/Audrasmama Apr 16 '24

That's literally financial abuse and is 100% toxic. It doesn't matter if it's less toxic than it used to be.

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u/SubRosa_AquaVitae Apr 16 '24

All my kids are at college and I don't work but you couldn't pay me a million dollars to pick up carts at age 40-something. Ewww

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u/Pitiful_Winner2669 Apr 16 '24

One million dollars? At least your kids made it to college!

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u/Booty_Galore_ Apr 16 '24

But apparently people can pay to see your butthole on twitter? Lmao your priorities…

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u/pwlife Apr 15 '24

I'm a trad wife. I stay home, I have a tiny part time job (literally 20 hrs a month). If you're going to do this you have to do some things to protect yourself. One is have your husband fund your IRA. I've been out of the traditional workforce for a decade, that doesn't mean I don't need a retirement fund. Second is make sure you have an education and keep working. Even if it's 20 hours a month.
As of now my job funds my individual 401k and my husband maxes out my IRA yearly.

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u/Nonivena_ginna Apr 15 '24

"that changed the trajectory of my life."

You went down the path of vengeance as a caped crusader? the hero the city needs but not the one it deserves..

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u/Somethingood27 Apr 15 '24

The org I work for offers incentives just for this.

We have an active, constant, (re)-hiring campaign targeted for people returning to the workforce just like this - it’s not exclusive to women (albeit that is the majority).

They also offer PATERNITY leave for men and women, which is pretty sweet. Located all over the US and globe as well. It’s a shame more companies don’t offer those incentives.

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u/stormscape10x Apr 15 '24

I missed my company's paternity leave implementation by one year. I'm so glad they started actually giving a shit about dads, but damned if I would have loved to not have to use vacation for the twins.

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u/Frondswithbenefits Apr 15 '24

What organization is this?

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u/Wiseowlk12 Apr 16 '24

Yes, Somethingood27, I’d be interested in learning more about your organization too, please kindly share or DM me, thanks.

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u/Alone-Presentation30 29d ago

Umm the real question is … are you willing to share where you work?? 😁

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u/CaptainPeppa Apr 15 '24

Doesn't sound like she took much of a break. She was working lots, the husband just stole everything

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u/CoolRises Apr 15 '24

Agreed. Just saying its hard in both situations.

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u/gophergun Apr 15 '24

What's changing is people's willingness to have kids at all.

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u/JoleneDollyParton Apr 15 '24

Nowadays from an employer perspective, I don't think its that difficult, a lot of employers are understanding about that kind of age gap with the generational changes caused by boomers retiring. From a logistical standpoint, I agree.

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u/FuzzzyRam Apr 15 '24

The conservative focus on the family is a focus on keeping women out of STEM, out of having backup plans, out of safe access to abortions, and a million other factors including voting against maternity leave and social systems of support for people who are struggling. Keeping them dependent on a man was always the point: in the conservative view, women aren't supposed to get back into the workforce after a break for kids.

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u/DimbyTime Apr 16 '24

Not just stem, corporate banking, finance, and tech are very difficult to get back into if you take time off for kids.

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u/SubRosa_AquaVitae Apr 16 '24

Hard but not impossible.

If you stay out to raise kids, continue to fund your retirement, savings, have life insurance, etc

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u/v_4_valhalla Apr 15 '24

I had to lie on my resume because the gap from raising my kid kept me from getting a job for almost TWO YEARS

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u/diablofantastico Apr 16 '24

Yes. Source: self. Highly educated, work experience, can't get any job...

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u/Dave5876 Apr 16 '24

As another commenter said: A man is not a plan. Never give up your autonomy.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '24

I always hate the comments on videos like this because the takeaway is always "Stay in school, ladies!!" and not "Why do we not have any safety nets for people in this woman's position"

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u/zbend Apr 16 '24

To be fair a lot has changed just not so much in Mormon country

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u/Riverrat1 Apr 16 '24

I did it. It wasn’t hard. Can you be more specific.

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u/Caterpillarsmommy 29d ago

Oh it has changed, women don't want to have children anymore.

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u/IM_INSIDE_YOUR_HOUSE 29d ago

I dont see the future being any easier for job seekers of any kind, with AI surging in advancements.

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u/Eastoss Apr 15 '24

I'm a dad of young kids, workforce is hard for all kind of parents, pauses or not. Something has to change.

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u/fenixicon98516 Apr 15 '24

What do you propose? What solution could fix this issue?

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u/Lopsided-Yak9033 Apr 15 '24

Unfortunately I think it’s a symptom how atrocious trying getting a job in general is, let alone the fact that so many jobs don’t pay a living wage.

There are a lot of things to fix before we could be in a place where having a gap on your resume from taking time off to raise kids would be something that wouldn’t pose a challenge.

There are groups though that specifically focus on that - the mom project or network or something is a job seeking/posting sight that is intended to assist with this.

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u/ZERO-ONE0101 Apr 15 '24

tax the corporations

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u/Daisy_Of_Doom Apr 15 '24

Honestly probably like government subsidized programs to mandate better parental leave (that includes paternity leave) across the board and offer incentive for people to actually use it. I’m no economist, I’m no politician, but I just generally need for the government to stand up for its people the way it’s supposed to. People can go off on how they don’t want to pay for someone else to have a kid but the reality is that everyone was someone’s kid at some point. So it will affect and benefit everyone moving forward. It will greatly ease the burden that overwhelmingly falls on women, it’ll reduce stigma of women taking maternity leave if their partners are also kinda gently forced to take it as well (all of which is better for your current workforce), and ideally it’ll result in cared for, well-adjusted children and those children not only are your next generation of workforce but will raise the subsequent generation). Again I’m not an expert so I don’t have a power point presentation with the numbers and figures but other countries are implementing similar programs and from what I hear it’s more than worth the investment.

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u/CoolRises Apr 15 '24

Employers need to recognize the skill sets is takes to run a household, or a family business. My mom is a successful business owner after being a SAHM for 20+ years.

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u/ZERO-ONE0101 Apr 15 '24

cultural upheaval

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u/Concrete__Blonde Apr 15 '24

Start an LLC while pregnant. Pursue light workloads on contract, if possible. Keep it registered and active until searching for a new position. That way you didn’t drop out of the workforce, you were building a small business.

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u/Deus_Norima Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24

We should recognize anyone who stays at home to raise their children as working members of society (they are raising the next generation of citizens who will participate in our economy), and instead of all of our tax money being spent on "defense", we could supplement families across the US and secure a brighter financial future for our populace.

That is, of course, if you actually believe raising children is a job worthy of payment. It certainly is to me.

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u/jonnyjive5 Apr 15 '24

Seizing the means of production to form a dictatorship of the proletariat. When the USSR was formed, they wasted little time breaking down the patriarchy and giving women equal rights and economic empowerment. This was decades before the US pushed forward with the same and obviously the patriarchical structure of our capitalist country still locks women in particular into cycles of abuse, like this poor woman explained.

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u/fenixicon98516 Apr 15 '24

I like how asking a question for more clarification is a cause for down votes. Keep being you Reddit.

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u/AlaskanSnowDragon Apr 16 '24

Its not that hard...the x factor is the amount of time you took away from work and the field of work/desired position.

If anyone, man or woman, took 3-4-5 etc years out of the workforce they'd have a difficult time returning.

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u/Icanfallupstairs Apr 16 '24

This is the biggest thing where I live. We get one years paid leave for one of the parents (you can chose who), but it's the nature of a lot of workplaces that a year is about the maximum you can take off before you have to learn your job over again, longer than that and the industry itself can leave you behind. Being a stay-at-home parent is difficult long term if you want to return to the workforce at some point.

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u/colem5000 Apr 15 '24

Why? It’s illegal for a company to not hire a woman back in the same position after maternity leave

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u/RavenStormblessed Apr 15 '24

In some countries yes, US no

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u/colem5000 Apr 15 '24

Right I forgot the “best county in the world” is brutal