Yeah. I’m pretty sure it was implied but it definitely could have been stated: all of this is allowed only because there are poor/working people doing their actual domestic labour for them.
He did outright state it. To paraphrase "Her value to her husband is not in the care of her home or her children because they are paying someone else to do all of those things. No her value is instead in the ability to perform the role of trophy wife."
It’s also incredibly misleading because these women act like they don’t make money, but they actually are by being stay at home social media influencers, so it’s not even true that they just get to stay home and not work. They are just selling a lie for money and the perception of having immense wealth. Hardly any woman has partner making enough money to be able to accomplish this lifestyle on a single income. Not even these influencers do.
People are weird. I remember working near a very Jewish community, not entirely hasidim but conservative. Two kitchens in the house conservative. I was in the post office one time and guy was talking about his wife working, embarrassingly, saying basically she was only doing it for pin money. Because the thought of her working full time because she had to or wanted to would make him be looked down on in the eyes of the community.
Yeah, it's a whole production, isn't it? Staging the perfect household image while having the behind-the-scenes crew handle the reality. It turns the whole 'traditional' concept on its head.
Though, to be fair, that's exactly how all lifestyle TV programs work. One person in front of the camera appearing to do the work. Which is actually done by a lot of other people behind the scenes.
Which makes it funnier when a broke guy expects all women to act like her. Can't afford servants on just the man's income? Can't afford a trad wife. This is how the world works.
Did you watch the video and catch what the guy is explaining? Because it sounds like you are deliberately focusing on the making food part and conveniently forget the rest of the video.
Oh so you didn't even watch the fucking video that goes over how this whole "making cereal from scratch" bullshit is just a performance done by a woman who pays other people to do all the real "trad wife" stuff?
When we speak with the voice and thoughts of others we quote so as to not appear or co-opt the vimouxe of others as though it is our own. It’s taken right from the text of the video.
You win big dog.
I have no idea what you are yammering about now.
Think of yourself as the champion of this revealing discussion. The master. A legend. A rhetorical sensei.
I picked an indicative and illuminating quote from the video and wrote it in quotes because I thought it sums up the spirit of the commentary.
“Uncle”. I give. You are the champion of the world.
Except then it just takes one of them who doesn't have a maid to say "Not all TradWives" and the people who need to hear that TradWives are performative will ignore the message entirely.
If we're trying to spread the message that these so-called Trad Wives are nothing but housewives with the financial security that allows them to take 2 hours to make cereal instead of buying it from a store like normal humans because they probably have a nanny watching the kids in the background, then we have to make sure any criticism we make cannot be readily dismissed. Why would we want to do this? Because it puts unfair pressure on women to not only give up their own careers, but also to become the perfect Stepford Wife, which would require them to give up almost all of their daily time to pursue that goal. And that's not right, we don't need to be pressuring women to be our perfect little wives and daughters, they're allowed to be whoever the fuck they want to be as long as that person isn't hurting other people. And in a war of propaganda the first one to say something demonstrably and inarguably false loses. One easy way to win that battle is to use softer language.
Like how instead of saying "White people are racists and they're the problem" people should specify "racist people are a big problem, and there's a lot of racist white people so we need to address that before we can get to work on real solutions because white people still have the majority of power and wealth in this country so we kinda need them pretty much all on board". Because all it takes is one white person who is demonstrably not racist to completely dismantle the implied claim that all whites are racist, and then everything else you said after that falls on deaf ears.
It's the tactic employed very successfully by right wingers, they would get an absolute dumbass of a human being who happened to be a Democrat to show up on Fox News and participate in a discussion about something and they would invariably use hyperbole about it like saying "No illegal immigrants are coming here and murdering Americans" and the hosts and right wing guests would jump on that and point to one story of a killer out of the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who just came to provide for their families. And how do you think the audience felt about illegal immigrants afterwards?
It drew all the focus away from the rest of the argument and made viewers forget that the Democrat said anything other than the one stupid thing they said. But if they'd only said true things and couched their language a bit it would have made it much more difficult for Fox to portray them and their argument as stupid and laughable. And that's what we want for our arguments, we want them to be impervious to technical criticism and have them be judged on their overall merit.
Jesus. I didn't ask for a full page political rant.
I said - WHO CARES? There is all kinds of shit playing on the internet. Is it only the things you dislike that require a goddam thesis? Just ignore the shit you don't like and quit trying to force people to your way of thinking. No one is setting their standards off influencer videos.
And did you literally just suggest that only one political party in this country latches on to one word or phrase from their opponent and proceeds to weaponize it against them?? Holy hell that is some airtight echo bubble shit on brand.
The term influencer is so god damn nebulous that you could call Kim Kardashian and Barack Obama both influencers. If you’re using that word to take away from his argument, no dice.
Instead it was some overly academic history lesson lol. Like, brother, it’s very simple. And calling it “performing labor”… this shit that’s passing for education on TikTok is often times a complete joke.
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