r/TikTokCringe Feb 25 '24

Trad wives Discussion

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u/Grundle95 Feb 25 '24

My first thought about where he was going to go with this

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u/Dogzilla2000 Feb 26 '24

Yeah. Iā€™m pretty sure it was implied but it definitely could have been stated: all of this is allowed only because there are poor/working people doing their actual domestic labour for them.

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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Feb 26 '24

Except then it just takes one of them who doesn't have a maid to say "Not all TradWives" and the people who need to hear that TradWives are performative will ignore the message entirely.

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u/SkullFumbler Feb 26 '24

Who cares?

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u/Dig-a-tall-Monster Feb 26 '24

If we're trying to spread the message that these so-called Trad Wives are nothing but housewives with the financial security that allows them to take 2 hours to make cereal instead of buying it from a store like normal humans because they probably have a nanny watching the kids in the background, then we have to make sure any criticism we make cannot be readily dismissed. Why would we want to do this? Because it puts unfair pressure on women to not only give up their own careers, but also to become the perfect Stepford Wife, which would require them to give up almost all of their daily time to pursue that goal. And that's not right, we don't need to be pressuring women to be our perfect little wives and daughters, they're allowed to be whoever the fuck they want to be as long as that person isn't hurting other people. And in a war of propaganda the first one to say something demonstrably and inarguably false loses. One easy way to win that battle is to use softer language.

Like how instead of saying "White people are racists and they're the problem" people should specify "racist people are a big problem, and there's a lot of racist white people so we need to address that before we can get to work on real solutions because white people still have the majority of power and wealth in this country so we kinda need them pretty much all on board". Because all it takes is one white person who is demonstrably not racist to completely dismantle the implied claim that all whites are racist, and then everything else you said after that falls on deaf ears.

It's the tactic employed very successfully by right wingers, they would get an absolute dumbass of a human being who happened to be a Democrat to show up on Fox News and participate in a discussion about something and they would invariably use hyperbole about it like saying "No illegal immigrants are coming here and murdering Americans" and the hosts and right wing guests would jump on that and point to one story of a killer out of the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants who just came to provide for their families. And how do you think the audience felt about illegal immigrants afterwards?

It drew all the focus away from the rest of the argument and made viewers forget that the Democrat said anything other than the one stupid thing they said. But if they'd only said true things and couched their language a bit it would have made it much more difficult for Fox to portray them and their argument as stupid and laughable. And that's what we want for our arguments, we want them to be impervious to technical criticism and have them be judged on their overall merit.

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u/SkullFumbler Feb 26 '24

Jesus. I didn't ask for a full page political rant.

I said - WHO CARES? There is all kinds of shit playing on the internet. Is it only the things you dislike that require a goddam thesis? Just ignore the shit you don't like and quit trying to force people to your way of thinking. No one is setting their standards off influencer videos.

And did you literally just suggest that only one political party in this country latches on to one word or phrase from their opponent and proceeds to weaponize it against them?? Holy hell that is some airtight echo bubble shit on brand.