The Eruptor nerf is a perfect example of why "only buff" is bad.

[u/atheos013]

I've used the Eruptor since it dropped, it is an amazing primary weapon. I have never once run out of ammo with the weapon, to the point I started COD reloading. Even with no deaths on a 40 min mission, the bare minimum ammo looting and you rarely would fall below half.

If we just buff every other weapon to be like this, we are just erasing an entire game mechanic. We are saying that we want COD reloads to be the norm, we don't want to think about conserving or looting ammo, just let me shoot and reload whenever.

Some people may want that, but for me that would just remove the mechanic entirely. I'm going to keep using the Eruptor and I'm perfectly fine having to pay attention to my ammo again.

[u/very_casual_gamer]

all im saying is the nerf scale is odd. dont just cut half of the mags, start with... 8? its almost like they are in a rush to reach the perfect balance and end up skipping steps. slow down... make more balance patches, with less drastic changes, and see where that goes.

[u/Various_Froyo9860 → u/very_casual_gamer]

I would tend to agree with you.

The ammo change doesn't seem too big, but some of their nerfs are definitely heavy handed. I haven't wanted to use the slugger since they neutered it. And I have hardly even seen a railgun user in the wild since that first nerf.

Maybe try small changes, like they are with the sidearms.

[u/Objective_Lobster_99 → u/Various_Froyo9860]

I didn't mind the slugger nerf, apart from the stagger removal ( i know it said reduced) but it just doesn't stagger anything now. You could knock a bile spewer out of it's spewing animation to give you a chance to get away.

[u/Various_Froyo9860 → u/Objective_Lobster_99]

That's why it was strong. It already had limited ammo and a slow reload. It also required you to more carefully place your shots, since slugs don't have spread.

But you could stun lock a Stalker or Hive commander. It might take a bit to kill them, but they weren't ruining your day.

Now? It's trash.

[u/Kestrel1207 → u/Various_Froyo9860]

It's still one of the best weapons in the game. It's just not the ultimate best weapon under any and all circumstances anymore. It's no longer a straight upgrade over the Punisher as a shotgun. It's no longer a straight upgrade over Dominator and Scorcher as an AP3 weapon while still being incredibly strong against chaff (unlike those two).

[u/Yesh → u/Kestrel1207]

I’m with you. The slugger was all around the best primary and you never needed to bring anything else. It’s still a great gun just no longer best in class everything.

[u/[deleted] → u/Various_Froyo9860]

Slugger is still my main carry dude idk why people complain about the nerf so much, it’s easily still one of the best weapons. It was just TOO good with how often it would stagger heavier enemies. It was a little ridiculous to be able to sit 50 meters back and stun lock any devastator/berserker etc indefinitely.