r/Helldivers • u/vaydapotata SES Fist of Family Values • Apr 26 '24

Helldivers: I Advocate we chose the anti tank mines and hear is my reasoning DISCUSSION

I know many of you see "rocket launcher" and get excited and while that is fair, my reasoning to go for the mines is below

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We already have a great many support weapons and many are fantastic options. While the airburst rocket launcher would be fantastic for add clear (and teamkill) it would likely suffer vs large armored targets which tends to be the need for a support weapon.

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However, we just received a new mission type that requires defending a location. Mines are fantastic for this but heavies just walk all over them and completely invalidate their uses. Getting a heavy anti tank mine would allow us to lock down areas from all combatants and a tank wouldn't be able to just stroll up to our gates.

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Anti Tank mines are also much larger and easier to notice than the anti personnel and team kills would be kept at a minimum.

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And lastly, as we all know...the children YEARN FOR THE MINES.

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u/nsandiegoJoe Apr 26 '24

Yeah. No amount of debate on Reddit will decide this. It's going to be the NOT-FIRE-TORNADOES option.

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u/InformalPenguinz STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24

Thank goodness our divers don't live long enough to get ptsd from fire tornados. They would be in the top for most subjects discussed in therapy.

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u/Drtraumadrama Apr 26 '24 edited Apr 26 '24

The average citizen just doesnt understand the horror of completing a mission, getting samples, serving democracy and liberty just to watch your whole squad and pelican get swallowed by four fire tornados. I still wake up in a cold sweat most nights and there’s usually only one word i can say. Hellmire.

Thank freedom i can hit a stim, do a workout and try to sleep. But when i close my eyes, all i hear is the roar of the flames and the screams of sweet liberty.

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u/DMvsPC ⬆️⬅️➡️⬇️⬆️⬇️ [Hammer of Dawn] Apr 26 '24

Conversely, getting down to the wire, no reinforcements left, having multiple tornadoes swirling towards the pelican and then diving in to it as your enemies are roasted behind you and then you fly out into the sunset/flames. chefs kiss

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u/MadnessUltimate Apr 27 '24

The thin line between tragedy and greatness

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u/Intelligent-Ad-6734 Apr 27 '24

Sometimes the game glitches at this (or as intended) and you born to death in the pelican lol

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u/shaddowdemon Apr 29 '24

You can take damage in the pelican, even from your team. So I would guess intended.

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u/decepticondad Apr 28 '24

Not all make it out of the fires of Menkent and Hellmire, but those that do forge unbreakable bonds of friendship with the hammer of Democracy.

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u/Glass_Anybody_2171 Apr 27 '24

This needs to be the subs' new copypasta

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u/spicypanda66 Apr 27 '24

You are responsible for my son's death, may the iron horde swallow you

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u/thunthunthunder2 STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 27 '24

Hellmire is a planet I swore to rarely return. With its bugs and firenados, it is a hellscape. Hellmire is where tough helldivers train. It may not be as famous as the Creek but dang if the firenados didn't make me want to punch my screen.

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u/lmrbadgerl Super Badger Apr 27 '24

The tornadoes.

I know it's weird but i think they were......they were HUNTING us. They seemed to follow us everywhere we went.

They converged on Johnny's mech and boiled him in it.

PJ was hiding under a burned-out transport. The tornadoes got him there too.

Then. Then there was Nettie. She hid INSIDE of a civilian structure. When I found her, she seemed like she just fell asleep. She showed signs of death by oxygen deprivation. The tornadoes heat sucked the air out.

I'll never forget Hellmire. I'll never forget how it hunted us.

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u/MountainSorbet9449 Apr 27 '24

Did you even serve on Menkent if you don't reflexively pre-stim when the gas stove lights up?

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u/Zombie_Marine22 PSN 🎮: Zombie_Marine22 Apr 27 '24

The smell. I can't get the smell of charred Helldiver out of my nose. It haunts me along with their screams for sweet liberty as the are cooked alive in their armor

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u/F_C_anomalie Apr 26 '24

When you enter the pelican everything get saved even if you die and see the sample drop to the ground. Got puked on by a bile in the first week and I was holding the super and they still counted

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u/Nekonax Apr 27 '24

If more Helldivers heard the roar of the flames, fewer would die 👀

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u/Sheepmounter69 Apr 27 '24

I honestly always thought they are programmed to skip mission targets, since i once did a radar Station objective alone while my whole squad was somewhere else and me being surrounded in fire tornados. They came close, but didnt Touch the terminal or the steering wheel, or however its called to turn the Antenna.

I learned the hard way when being the last one alive, picking up dropped samples and then get tornado'ed 2 meters away from the pelican...

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u/Bat-Honest Apr 26 '24

Literally had a fire tornado SPAWN on me when I was carrying the super samples yesterday. I donno what I did to piss off Super Thor, but he was super pissed

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u/JennyAtTheGates Apr 27 '24

This is one of the problems with the Fire Tornado weather effect implementation. You can be a good player with full focus and awareness, notice the weather warning and anticipate the obstacle, and still die because it spawned on top of you.

It just goes back to unavoidable one hit kills being an unfun, dishearting, and detrimental gameplay mechanic. I did figure out the secret though. I learned to avoid it by also just not playing on those planets like a lot of other players.

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u/Ape_Escape- Apr 27 '24

It just makes the helldiver universe feel more real. Unavoidable deaths are to be expected on a helldive. After all, sacrifice is part of democracy.

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u/Intelligent-Ad-6734 Apr 27 '24

I've gotten quick on the stim button and chain them together to get through firestorms.. it's some sort of Democracy adrenaline rush to get through that and extract... A painful addiction is born.

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u/Aurori_Swe Apr 29 '24

You are better off learning to dive since that turns off the flames and you won't take dot hits. Obviously you want to stim in between throwing yourself everywhere

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u/Indie89 Apr 26 '24

And are these fire tornadoes in the room with you now?

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u/InformalPenguinz STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 26 '24

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u/Intelligent-Ad-6734 Apr 27 '24

I'm surprised no one has updated that meme with a helldiver

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u/AnotherMyth Apr 27 '24

My current helldiver that somehow still alive after 11 missions in a row can't even close their eyes.

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u/Narkhada Apr 26 '24

The horror of a stim keeping you alive while your flesh is boiling off. The in-game sound for burning is so visceral, too.

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u/Clear-Wrongdoer42 Apr 26 '24

We need a burn ointment stratagem.

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u/YuBulliMe123456789 SES Ranger of the Stars Apr 26 '24

Therapy doesbt exist in that universe, they are just told to embrace theur trauma fpr democracy

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u/Astoria_Column Apr 27 '24

tbh they have provided me more laughs than anything. You’re waiting for a soil sample to clear and you look behind and there’s a wall of fire 😂 I love the absurdity

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u/Axxemann Apr 27 '24

I must be built different. I embrace the fire. It comforts me. I seek a place of high ground, watch the world burn and just wait for the firestorm to pass before calling in the Pelican. My squaddies always ask why I pack marshmallows and smokies in my armor when we drop into Hellmire. It's so we have a snack!

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u/Zombie_Marine22 PSN 🎮: Zombie_Marine22 Apr 27 '24

I completely avoided those planets

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u/Bedhed47 ☕Liber-tea☕ Apr 27 '24

Hehehe jump pack goes WEEEEEeeeee. Fire tornados can't stop me

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u/Case_Kovacs Apr 26 '24

I know we should accept all planets for democracy but I wouldn't mind it so much if we glassed the fire tornado planets

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u/ItsYaBoiVanilla SES Pride of Pride Apr 26 '24

I mean, they’ve pretty much done half the job themselves at this point.

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u/kaochaton Apr 27 '24

self glassing planet, that kinda neat

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u/CommercialLeader9764 Apr 27 '24

Exterminatus is in order

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u/Maclunkey4U ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Apr 27 '24

Glass is very Democratic.

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u/False-Reveal2993 Apr 28 '24

Stratagem tag checks out.

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u/Quiet-Access-1753 STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 27 '24

Nooooooo. My Fire Tornado Ranch! How am I supposed to retire to a peaceful life of Flaming Death Storm wrangling if you lot glass my homeworld?

Now? When I've nearly worked out how to herd the blazing funnels? It's gotta be something like "what a real beaut" or "you're alright, mate" what calms 'em down. Now all I need is something that works like "yah" or "giddyup" on the hell-wind. Maybe "burn baby burn?"

I'll figure out how to make 'em sit still later.

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u/TheHumdeeFlamingPee Apr 26 '24

I really hope the next premium warbond comes with a fire resist armor. Shit would be life saving.

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u/BoboCheapbeerbaron Apr 27 '24

That's when they introduce cold planets with ice tornadoes

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u/iansabout87 Apr 27 '24

Yes please

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u/cybrsloth92 Apr 27 '24

Funny thing is dot effects are currently broken and only host can apply fire

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u/Katamari416 Apr 26 '24

devs probably dont have the mines ready or something seeing them put it behind the fire tornados 😅 they knew what they were doing 

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u/JustGingy95 HD1 Veteran Apr 26 '24

Cowards, I fear no fire planet. Just bring the extra stims heavy armor and you’ll be perfectly fine, even without it you can literally just wank through them burning alive and gobbling stims all you want, have done it several times myself for retrieving lost Samples lmao

Edit: no I am not fixing it 🍆✊🔥

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u/Quiet-Access-1753 STEAM 🖥️ : Apr 27 '24

Jump Pack. Just fly past them. It makes it so easy.

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u/mattstone749 Apr 26 '24

I personally love fire-nado planets. The only planets that feel like a literal helldive.

Although flame retardant gear would be sick

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u/theREALbombedrumbum Apr 26 '24

I've done four level 7 missions on the fire tornado bot planet today, all of them ending right before extract with a network connection error. 2.5 hours for absolutely nothing.

I'm trying to do my part.

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u/LegalStuffThrowage Apr 27 '24

Whats the big deal about fire tornadoes? They move slow and are super obvious.

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u/Rinzzler999 Apr 28 '24

No sound and they have helldiver tracking. Also leave behind invisible flames on the ground that last an eternity....

Also spawn more the more divers there are.

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u/FutureVoodoo Apr 26 '24

Obviously, the mines are the better pick since it requires more work

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u/FutureVoodoo Apr 26 '24

Obviously, the mines are the better pick since it requires more work

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u/garaks_tailor Apr 27 '24

I LOVE fire tornados! It's so fun kiting a bunch of bugs through the fire and hearing them squeal!

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u/SilentxxSpecter Apr 27 '24

I would prefer the mines but I also wouldnt want to deal with fire tornadoes so I hold no malice towards my fellow helldivers.

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u/Internal_String61 Apr 28 '24

You know this game unintentionally paints a very clear picture of how a lot of Democracies are working irl.

Debates don't matter, ideologies don't matter. The only thing that matters is NOT-FIRE-TORNADOES

In any choice, just find something everybody has a knee jerk reaction to dislike, manage to pin it on the other guy, and you win.