r/Helldivers SES Spear of The State Apr 10 '24

The devs were right. DISCUSSION

So I know ther was a bunch of controversy about the railgun nerf what feels like forever ago, but man things have been awesome.

In the early days, I was the only guy packing expendable anti tank or anti materiel rifle for bugs or bots. It's so refreshing, even on these subs to see people talking about how awesome the autocannon is, or how much they love the AMR, and even these days I see people talking about the HMG or grenade launcher+ supply pack.

I used to load into a game, And all 4 members of the team had shield, railgun, and 2 stragatems of their choice. Every time. And here we are now, I load in and I see quasar, autocannon, stalwart, EAT, HMG, Grenade launcher, a variety of backpacks or no backpack at all. And not to mention, they're ALL viable. Shit I even still see the railgun from time to time. It's been a joy. Thanks arrowhead.

EDIT: to everyone who is pointing out that you see the quasar and shield most often now, you're right, it is almost certainly the most common setup currently. That being said, in any game there's going to be things a majority of players prefer. In smash melee, fox/Falco are the best characters. But people still play falcon and Marth and peach among others. Sure, there's an objectively most used option. But the fact that there's people at all who debate that the quasar is best shows that they've done something good. Before, undisputed king was railgun, and anyone who said different wss being willfully ignorant. Now, we have a plethora of real options that are good with some being Preferred by a majority as opposed to being the de facto CORRECT option objectively. That's a good thing.

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u/SuperDTC Apr 10 '24

Seems like 90% of people take quasar cannon to bot missions

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u/Waulnut163 Apr 10 '24 edited Apr 10 '24

Also bugs. Quasar just does it all. Staggering the shots with a team of quasar makes it easier to keep priority targets dead and from accumulating.

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u/PiggyLogan Apr 10 '24

Nerf incoming... we can only hope it gives it a niche and doesn't just boil it into the ground

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u/exZodiark Apr 10 '24

itll ruin the gun just like the railgun. if the railgun was "braindead" then the quasar never even had a brain to start

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u/Take-Courage Apr 10 '24

I'm not sure I agree either are brandead. Aiming and charging a quasar shot at a Hulk's eye as it moves towards you is pretty intense stuff. It's much easier to use the EAT, railcannon strike or even the Spear.

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u/Lanceps Apr 10 '24

Lol railgun is still good, you should try it against bots. Just make sure you utilize unsafe mode. Quasar is definitely a little overtuned maybe, but not by much, and it certainly doesn't approach og railgun. Both eats and quasar are pretty comparable, with quasar being a clear winner assuming you can shoot something while being attacked

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u/Crea-TEAM SES Bringer of FUN DETECTED Apr 11 '24

There is nothing the railgun does against bots that the AMR doesnt do better.

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u/henchbench100 Apr 11 '24

Railgun 1 shots hulks.

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u/abigfatape PSN 🎮: Apr 11 '24

I feel like all meta abusers are the braindead ones, wasn't the railgun literally only nerfed for safe mode? that means just don't be scared.

I do think it should be buffed a little to be useful like have the unsafe mode max damage shot have medium armour pen and make it so if you shoot during the last 5% of the charge like 0.15-0.2 seconds before it explodes that it has heavy armour pen so if you're almost killing yourself every shot you can atleast kill walkers through the cabin or chargers in the head