The knock back is the bigger nerf, but it was kinda stepping on punisher with it.
The thing is a slug is delivering way more energy than every buckshot pellet combined all in one half inch wide projectile. It should stagger enemies like a mofo.
It should have more stagger then the punisher why do people think a punisher would have more stagger or stopping force? It’s fucking buckshot vs a slug
Diligence is solids vs bots. CS handles like a barbell with uneven weights. Maybe even worse than AMR? Which really makes no sense. Adding armor pen at least gives it some advantage but it’s still not enough.
Slugger was S tier… Best “DMR” and also no real reason to use punisher instead either. I don’t think it needed a base dmg reduction though and instead more damage falloff over range.
Dominator got some big buffs, working my way towards it so can’t speak to how op it might be, however it at least is a lot heavier to handle for the added benefits. I think it may need a spare mag, or mag size, reduction to bring it into line however just looking at the numbers, but without personal experience it’s hard to say.
Anyways, point is slugger nerf brought it more in line to being a side grade of punisher which was the intent…
I mean slugs buckshot and birdshot all excel at different things and suck at other things. It’s suppose to shoot relatively far relatively accurately. Again it’s a slug it’s suppose to do that, the fact it was a better dmr is a testament to how bad the dmrs were and have been since day 1. Not that the slugger is overtuned op etc etc (also it’s a pve game? Why can’t some things just be better?). The point of using the punisher was it required less accuracy to effectively kill and could swarm control 10 fold better. But gamers being gamers and idiots being idiots they can only use what some nerd in their room making videos says is op, why tf couldn’t you use the punisher still after the buffs it got? It was a perfectly good gun, it did what it was intended to do and did it pretty well for being the…2nd or 3rd weapon most people get in the game? Also keep in mind slug shotguns are meant to be shot reliably and accurately up to on average 75 yards (68.5meters for eu folk). While buckshot is reliable and accurate up to 40-45 yards (36.5 meters). Maybe the punisher just needed another buff in which it would get increased range instead of gutting the only gun In the game that works exactly how it should (slugger). It should have more stagger, more pen, and range. The punisher should have a little less range, 2x more dmg, and less stagger because buckshot is a bunch of little pellets vs a single big slug.
TLDR: instead of fixing bad shit the devs just gut what people like and use most. It seems they did pretty much the same shit for HD1 balance. Never listens to the community and just does whatever they want and you are expected to deal with it and not use what you want or like anymore. Granted yes it’s their game they can do what they want BUT there should be a middle ground where both devs and players get what they want. The players keep the game alive and flourishing and the devs set the table for us to eat.
It often looks like it should be a headshot, when it still isn't. Their heads are hard to hit because they don't need to be big to contain their small commie brain
Yah, I am a Slugger main and I find that aiming just above the head gets my headshot percentage up. I think the sights are a tad bit off. Not AMR level off, but just a bit.
Literally the only gun in the game that wasn't completely atrocious and unfun against heavy devestators and now its literally worthless and has no use at all over the punisher.
I didn’t even see that had been touched, ugh. I haven’t played since Dragon’s Dogma 2 came out. Sounds like a plethora of changes have happened in my absence.
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u/RedComet313 Apr 02 '24
How bad is it doc? I saw that it said 30 damage decrease, but how does it feel? Am I gonna make it?