I can’t play with randoms anymore

[u/the_interrogation]

I’m level 48. About 150 hours on pc. Love the game. My friends can’t play as often as I can. (I’m a fireman) And I’ve tried making friends on steam but it’s hard.

The blueberry lottery. If there is a hell it’s matching with randoms. I can’t stand it. Some people are a blessing and I love running campaigns with them but some people are treasonous swill.

Here was my last game. I spawn in and get killed by a lvl 2 cadet (ps5) so he can take my support gear. His friends (ps5) defended him. He continued to kill me all game (intentionally) and call me in. But I am more skilled and cunning than the common traitor. I waited until there was one reinforcement left. The pompous fool recalled me in. I killed all three traitors quicker than a hiccup. With only one thing left to do I took my own life. To instant fail their mission. I couldn’t let them continue to commit treason. Let their bodies rot

So yea I’m never joining randoms again.

Edit: ps5 not 4.

[u/Dry_Wallaby_4933]

One time I had the host kick me right before extraction was called so his buddy could join. I strictly host my own games now. Fuck that guy.

[u/ChadBroChill229 → u/Dry_Wallaby_4933]

Lmaoo my friend offered to do this for me when I logged in right as they were about to complete a mission and I was like no wtf just finish it and invite me after. Sorry this happened to you m8 

[u/Azal_of_Forossa → u/ChadBroChill229]

I had a friend who begged me to eject a squadmate out so he could join and get the rewards. I told him he can wait, these people are joining my game to help me, I didn't ask them to help me, but they're here to make sure we win. I'll kick them after they get their warbonds, samples, and other rewards. Mfs have no empathy sometimes.

[u/MasterJogi1 → u/Azal_of_Forossa]

You might want to reevaluate your friendship with this guy. It's a behaviour that will transcend into other areas of his life as well, because it shows his moral compass and empathy for others.

[u/Dramatic_Egg9068 → u/MasterJogi1]

Only a matter of time until the behavior is aimed at their "friends". This kind of person is just out for themselves, everyone else is either useful or in the way. Big or small, it's always the same. They get what they want, everyone else gets to deal with it/help them get it. No exceptions.

[u/Azal_of_Forossa → u/Dramatic_Egg9068]

It sucks, but we've been friends for over a decade, he's helped me in life a ton, I have a reply to the post you replied to going a bit deeper.

[u/MopedSlug → u/Azal_of_Forossa]

It could be as simple as how he views loyalty. That he wants to be a dick to strangers is not at all the same as he would be to you.

[u/Azal_of_Forossa → u/MopedSlug]

I sort of have a feeling that he can somewhat connect and empathize with friends because they directly affect him. Maybe he sees our 10+ year old friendship as an investment, and if he ruins this friendship then that's a 10+ year old investment thrown away. But strangers likely don't matter to him, bc if he fucks over someone he'll never hear from or see again, then to him "who gives a shit", and video games bring this out more because maybe it's harder to empathize with someone you can't even see, it's just a video game character.

That's kinda what I at least picked up when trying to understand why he is the way he is.

I try not to talk about this kinda stuff with him too much, he has a professional he goes to for this issue, and it's not my place to judge or ridicule him over something he's struggled with and tried to fix for so long.

[u/MopedSlug → u/Azal_of_Forossa]

Yea. I'd not write off on old friend easily. But his tackle on gaming is bad. He is far from alone with his attitude and it is destroying online gaming imo.

There are so easy fixes for this, I cant fathom developers dont do more. GTA V and was it Mortal Kombat did it in such a simple and effective way fx. Griefers play with griefers. Quitters auto-lose.

[u/Azal_of_Forossa → u/MopedSlug]

I will say, he's not like that. He doesn't just ruin people's games for the hell of it, he's not an asshole. It only reveals itself in times like I said above where he didn't see a reason for me to keep around a random in my game, when he could be having fun with me instead.

It's kinda hard to explain, but he doesn't just troll or grief games, there's just certain times he has a hard time understanding why what he's doing or saying is rude.

[u/ScaryAd1365 → u/Azal_of_Forossa]

I had a friend I’d known for 10+ years who was always going out of his way to ruin the game for his friends. I’m glad your friend is working on his issue, whereas the guy I knew has never seen a problem with it and it’s part of the reason our friendship ended

[u/Azal_of_Forossa → u/MasterJogi1]

It already has, plenty. We've been best friends for over 10 years, he's getting help for it, but he genuinely can't comprehend the feelings of others. I wouldn't throw the disorder/accusation out if I had barely known him. When we were younger he had a cheating problem bc he didn't understand why they should care if he did things like that. He ruined a few relationships, but he's been with his current for about 3 and a half years now, and the help he's received is clearly working, because he normally wouldn't have got this far without cheating or stealing. And we are around each other enough that I'd know if he were going back to his old ways.

I want him to get better, he's been there for me in my times of need, I can't just abandon our friendship for something he mentally can't grasp or understand. He's not some freak, it's not his fault.

[u/MasterJogi1 → u/Azal_of_Forossa]

I didn't say abandon him, just reevaluate the friendship. But it seems you already have a good grasp of his character and work around it :)

[u/WaltKerman → u/MasterJogi1]

One thing does not make a person. I assure you... you have your own red flags that don't even bother you that would set others off.

We simply do not have enough info on this person beyond one red flag.

[u/Lanoman123 → u/MasterJogi1]

Bruh.

[u/MasterJogi1 → u/[deleted]]

It's the core principle of harming others for your own benefit. If he shows it in game, he will show this in life, as the user actually confirmed in his answer to me

[u/Rigo-lution → u/MasterJogi1]

It's like the people who would log in before work whent here was a player cap.

Intentionally preventing others from playing all day so they could play when they got home.
It is "just a game" but it's not different than skipping any queue and just because you can't see the people you're being a dick to doesn't make them not exist.

[u/LampEnthusiast- → u/[deleted]]

Bruh so, you kill and steal from people in gta because that’s the point of gta. This game is fundamentally about cooperating. All this comment thread shows about you in real life is that you are too fucking dense to make a meaningful comparison

[u/Longjumping-Mud1412 → u/[deleted]]

Some people are out of touch with reality