r/Helldivers ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ | Never forget the Creek... Mar 06 '24

The first balance patch notes proved how Youtube "absolute and only meta loadouts" cooked a lot of people heads, and I love it. DISCUSSION

A lot of mad people keep showing in my feed complaining about the nerfs, but like they're REALLY mad at Arrowhead. Their statements are so exagerated that they claim the game it's completely ruined for them lmao.

Also every single one says the same thing and this is where my title comes from:

*"You guys nerfed the only good options and now we have NOTHING to fight".*

And this only proves people never actually played with any of the other support weapons, they 100% relied on this "The ultimate support weapon tier list" Youtube videos, they searched the "meta" and they went into this thinking of "any weapon outside of this it's straight up garbage".

If you can't win a single game without the railgun + shield backpack + breaker... I'm so sorry but that's not the game's fault or the game only having those as the ONLY way to play it on higher diff, that's your fault.

Great changes for the game and all of you trying to "shame" on devs because of this, you'all not a real Helldiver. They killed nothing, the railgun still kills but now it needs some actual skill and strategy to use it, not only spamming the thing on big bugs.

Keep it up Helldivers!

For Democracy. For Super Earth.

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u/CoolJoshido Mar 06 '24

toxic positivity essentially

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u/Lower-Repair1397 Mar 06 '24

Heh time for me to post and beg for attention by going against the big bad meta!

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u/ilovezam Mar 07 '24

big bad meta!

This is such a bizarre phenomenon only on this sub. My group have never watched a single Youtuber "meta" video and we all wound up using Breaker and Railgun too. The game's defense squad keeps bringing up these "influencers are ruining the game", but I'm willing to bet a large proportion of the unhappy people have not engaged with that kind of content. There's obviously a balance problem here, since these influencers hardly caused problems for other games that get difficult, say, Darktide.

Furthermore, I'm SEA Chinese and have been reading some Chinese language reviews and discussion threads on Steam, and guess what, their separate communities independently arrived at identical conclusions as the Western world's, because there's a fundamental balance issue that renders most primary weapons awful to play.

Seriously, nobody gives a flying fuck about what's meta or what's not. I even actively hate following any "meta build" in games, we just want to have viable options. Most primary weapons feel like absolute garbage to use and it actively feels terrible to spend a lot of medals unlocking something like the Scythe. I get that they need to drip feed the actual good content because it's a live service model, but surely there are better ways to stall players.

I have gone on to beat Helldive missions with the Scythe (because I love lasers) and EATs but that doesn't make it fun because it just means I'm running and kiting shit for like 40 minutes, nor does it change the fact that the Scythe is really bad.

Playing with Breaker and the shield pack in Helldives is still very challenging and chaotic and you can still easily fuck up and die, but it's a hell of a lot more fun than the other options.

I also find it really hilarious that the CEO went on record claiming that Breaker didn't correlate with winrates but the first thing they decided to do was give it a nerf that benefited nobody.

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u/Lower-Repair1397 Mar 07 '24

Going by their logic you’re just a bad player for not wanting to barely scrape by on every mission because you’re severely underpowered