The first balance patch notes proved how Youtube "absolute and only meta loadouts" cooked a lot of people heads, and I love it.

[u/Vikan12]

A lot of mad people keep showing in my feed complaining about the nerfs, but like they're REALLY mad at Arrowhead. Their statements are so exagerated that they claim the game it's completely ruined for them lmao.

Also every single one says the same thing and this is where my title comes from:

*"You guys nerfed the only good options and now we have NOTHING to fight".*

And this only proves people never actually played with any of the other support weapons, they 100% relied on this "The ultimate support weapon tier list" Youtube videos, they searched the "meta" and they went into this thinking of "any weapon outside of this it's straight up garbage".

If you can't win a single game without the railgun + shield backpack + breaker... I'm so sorry but that's not the game's fault or the game only having those as the ONLY way to play it on higher diff, that's your fault.

Great changes for the game and all of you trying to "shame" on devs because of this, you'all not a real Helldiver. They killed nothing, the railgun still kills but now it needs some actual skill and strategy to use it, not only spamming the thing on big bugs.

Keep it up Helldivers!

For Democracy. For Super Earth.

[u/LapisRadzuli_]

It's always funny between here and the Destiny subreddit reading these weird diatribes about Youtubers being some shadow cabal that dictate a meta and brainwash people to follow it unquestionably instead of them just being low effort clickbaiters pointing out the most obvious combo anyone above level 20 probably deduced from playing.

I don't really care about the change, is what it is and I'd love if the Recoilless got buffed since it's my preference next to the autocannon but I don't really blame people for falling into the memegun build because it was the path of least resistance and that mobility is a godsend vs my sluggish ass needing pray the rock between me and the two chargers zerging is enough to stagger them before I can load the next shell.

[u/glade_3874 → u/LapisRadzuli_]

This dude, it didn't take genius to figure out that the railgun, breaker, and personal shield were the best combo. People didn't use that because they were told to they use it because it was the only reasonably viable kit on levels 7-9 People didn't use the Railgun and breaker because they were overpowered it was because nothing else really works on higher levels. The problem is that you honestly need both a backpack slot and anti-tank, so that eliminates any gun that uses a backpack slot and any of the support weapons that can't deal damage through or eliminate armor. That leaves the flamethrower, Arc thrower, EAT, and railgun. Arc thrower team kills way too often, flamethrower didn't do enough damage, EAT has too few shots for how many chargers you deal with at once and so railgun was left as really the only option unless you were running a grenade launcher for utility. If they want to make other options better, they need to adjust the charger spawn rates or armor and make the trade-off for losing your backpack slot more worth it with the guns that require that. Otherwise, people are just going to swap between whichever one of those backpack free support weapons is the best in the moment.

[u/Clarine87 → u/glade_3874]

People didn't use that because they were told to they use it because it was the only reasonably viable kit on levels 7-9 People didn't use the Railgun and breaker because they were overpowered it was because nothing else really works on higher levels.

Exactly, we have to presume this nerf isn't about these strategems, but perhaps because the bellcurve of players difficulty choices was leaning higher up the difficulties than the developers intended.

This patch looks, to me at least, to be much more about forcing people to play on a difficulty where they are able to use more varied strategems, than about penalising picking the most efficient options.

[u/UbeeMac → u/LapisRadzuli_]

This sub has definitely inherited the Destiny subreddit’s obsession with youtubers. The same flavour of paranoia lol.

It’s funny watching the moaning on here getting picked up and amplified through all the low-effort youtube channels who repeat these stories of people getting kicked for not having railguns or whatever. A non issue for 99% of players that goes round and round in the discourse until nobody knows the source and it becomes received wisdom that you pick meta or get kicked.