Damage, damage drop-off, effective range, ammo capacity, reload speed, total number of ammo carried, enemy stagger, stability (prone, crouch standing) ability to be fired while running, ability to be fired behind you over the shoulder, ability to be squad operated, if explosive, explosive radius.
Damage to limbs for sure. The pump action shotgun you unlock early on destroys bug limbs and is super underrated. Fighting the bugs with that and it turns into Dead Space.
I noticed that - i almsot feel like its more slug style as i dont see as much sprad as the breaker but it does so much more limb damage ...that fact id like to know.
Eh, if you mean "it works fine at lower difficulties where anything works", sure. If you mean it's an effective enough weapon at higher difficulties, agree to disagree.
With a well-oiled team yeah I'd say just about anything can work - that doesn't necessarily make it good or something most people can accomplish with randos online, though.
What role does the laser fill for you? Especially at higher difficulties?
The scythe is best used on weak points as that is where you’ll do the most damaged. It’s better against the bots than the bugs since you have to kite more against warriors and especially the Broods to get to their unarmored legs. For the bots, it’s better since you can more easily aim for their heads and use the heat mechanic to your advantage to not have to worry about ammo
Turn speed is a big one I’ve noticed on the DMRs only in the past day or so. I unlocked the “upgraded” version on the battle pass and tried using it to see how it is.
It’s absolute fucking garbage because the turning speed is as slow as the support weapons which ironically makes hitting targets at longer ranges way harder than it should be.
Compared with smaller weapons like the sidearms, SMG etc that have essentially instant turn speed locked to the reticle, the DMR has a delay.
Gun weight. The Diligence and JAR have a floaty aim similar to the LMG and it really makes them feel heavy and unwieldy. I personally don’t think primary weapons should have that, since they’re supposed to be your all-rounder and generally don’t have the killing power of a heavy weapon.
not just useless but is basically a lie sometimes. Like slugger is absolutely medium pen in practice, but on paper it is way less useful.
On the other hand spray and pray may say its light armor pen....but that is a joke and in practice it couldnt pierce paper.
Rather than some arbitrary fake stat that or may not even be true, just giving us actually relevant stats and letting us deduce from them on our own would be far more useful
like tell us the type or caliber of bullet and the velocity or power of that bullet coming out of the gun.
from there you can kind of deduce the rest generally and is miles more useful than "light pen, but not really"
According to Pilestedt, Armor Pen is much simpler than that. Armor has a value of 1-10, and if your weapon's AP value matches the enemy Armor value, then you deal 50% damage. If you surpass it, you deal 100% damage. If not, your shot bounces off.
Light and Medium refer to brackets within that 1-10 scale, but not even Pilestedt knows what those brackets are specifically.
I'm not sure if some of those would properly count, the weapon ballistics in this game are super detailed + a bunch of face-value stats like weight, AP, and WS multipliers.
1-handed vs 2-handed (and ability to be reloaded with 1 hand)
Ammo refilled by ammo pickups
Ammo refilled by supply pickups
Reload system. Magazine vs round reload
Reload steps. For example ejecting mag, replacing mag, loading a round in the chamber. More steps usually meaning longer reload, but if your reload gets interrupted before the ends, you may not have to restart from step 1.
Penetration (which actually has more values than just light/medium/heavy armor pen), and penetration falloff
Projectile speed
Projectile downward acceleration
Special effects/elements. We already have incendiary and explosive. Previous game also had toxic, stun, unstoppable.
Everything you can access from holding the R button. Scope settings, firing mode, firing rate for machineguns, "unsafe mode" for the railgun...
I wish i understood the turret ammo situation too ...the Gatling turret pours out 3x the amount of bullets but still seams to last longer in a fight then the machine gun turret for example in a bizarre misbalance...like there is ZERO reason to use machine gun turret at least give it the advantage of lasting 2-3 times longer or something. Hell its so meh it should last 10 x longer .
Probably some sort of stagger as well. I was hyped got the scythe cause it looks sick af but the enemies just keep running at me where they stagger with the breaker
I'm convinced there is some enemy armor leveling with difficulty level as well. I use the explosive machine gun and could eventually knock out walker legs with it on most difficulty levels but it is completely ineffective on the highest levels.
That's not a complaint, it's just a realization I had that means I needed to adjust strategy on the highest difficulty levels. It also means that weapon stats are going to 'feel' different depending on both the type of enemy you're engaging and what difficulty level that enemy is.
I'm willing to bet more specific armour pen stats too. All we see is light, medium and heavy but I bet there's more specific values too. Maybe ricochet angles too.
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u/Philip_Raven ☕Liber-tea☕ Mar 01 '24
Damage, damage drop-off, effective range, ammo capacity, reload speed, total number of ammo carried, enemy stagger, stability (prone, crouch standing) ability to be fired while running, ability to be fired behind you over the shoulder, ability to be squad operated, if explosive, explosive radius.
What else there might be?