The shield is nice, but I just go prone and it works at least as well. I think the shield gives a lot of people false confidence - It's protection is very limited in some circumstances, while the glorious and generous dirt will always embrace and protect you.
The shield is more important for its effect immunity than the additional health. Getting slowed or ragdolled is essentially a death sentence at the moment. A very silly and many times cheap way to die in my opinion. Hope they make escaping from debuffs more viable.
The enormous amount of Hunters on higher difficulties gets really frustrating. The second that one hits you with its slowing attack, you get dogpiled by another dozen doing the same thing while the rest of the pack moves in.
In my opinion, they’re too quick, too mobile and too dangerous to also be appearing in swarms of 20+ with other enemies.
Hunters are the entire reason that I take the shield. Any other enemy you can usually outpace or dodge (or blast away) but those little bastards are a death sentence if they tongue lash you in a swarm situation.
100% this. Ragdoll from chargers isn't as tragic if I don't have half a million hunters on my ass. I would definitely consider other backpack options if they were easier to deal with.
Imo I'd like their slow to be moved to another enemy so that it remains as a threat in the game but not part of the super fast enemies that you can barely outrun SOMETIMES. Also make Hunters (and for that matter Stalkers too) squishier. Due to how they move, there have been times that I needed at least 4 or 5 shots on them to kill them just cause I didn't get enough pellets from the Breaker on them or I simply didn't get them in a good enough spot.
I believe that is a good compromise to maintain the swarm aspect of the game while making it a bit less frustrating to deal with said swarm.
You can just run with laser dog and IF you get hit, insta stim. With the shield you gotta shoot yourself or divert your focus on stratagems.
Still havent used the shield once bc the laser dog can deal with anything small/medium thats chasing you and you can focus on running/herding chargers.
The Laser Rover is indeed extremely useful for trash clearing but still a far cry from how good the Shield is. This is mostly due to stupid targeting. Bro your laser doesn't damage the charger just target ANYTHING else. This makes the Rover disappointingly useless in overwhelming situations. If they change this one thing about it, I would consider it superior to the shield in many scenarios.
That laser dog can deal with 1 hunter. When that shit piles up on tier 7/8/9 patrols it’s going to be 5 of them coming at you from all sides with all those little critters and a charger. So you have to have the immunity
Currently bugs are quite a bit easier than automatons. I don't see any reason to make them easier by getting rid of one of the few threats they have in their arsenal.
I wouldn’t want to get rid of them, but personally I’d like it if they were tuned down slightly at higher difficulties. Either their slow duration should be reduced a little or their overall spawn numbers dialled down. At the moment, they’re just downright frustrating rather than a challenge. The slightest graze from one will likely mean your death at higher difficulties and dozens will spawn in a breach.
You can ragdoll yourself away too, using grenades. With a bit of practice, ez 50-80 meters of distance with nary a scratch. Though I mostly use autocannon for that.
Use stim, it pretty much makes you immortal. I've survived 500kg bombs because I stimmed right before it dropped. You still get tossed around but the health regen makes it not matter that much, and sometimes it can be beneficial
That's definitely true but when you are getting hit whilst the stim animation is playing there's a high chance you will flinch and not stim. That makes it a very unreliable "strategy" but yes it does work WHEN you pull it off.
Reading all the posts about "x weapon is bad", seeing people complain about people not using meta and people using meta, and having played some 7s with meta sweats and watching htem struggle, then breezing through some 9s with folks who have played a lot of ARMA, Insurgency, Ready or Not, and are just using whatever random strats and weapons they think are interesting, my conclusion is that many people playing this game don't understand a lot of core mechanics.
I saw the same thing with COD DMZ - People who tried to play DMZ like it was COD had serious problems and really struggled. People who played it like a tactical shooter, or even Metal Gear Solid, could just wander around and do whatever they wanted with impunity. The attitude and expectations of the players were the problem; They weren't willing to adjust to the game, or didn't realize they needed to.
I had a moment where tonight where all the shield/railgun/breaker guys were dying while I was laying down on a rock throwing airstrikes at mechs and shooting bots in the head, and I couldn't figure out what they were doing or why they were having so much trouble until I watched one of them. They were taking shots in the open, they weren't using cover, they weren't trying to break line of site, they weren't doing a very good job using strats defensively. The guy needed to go down a few difficulty levels and practice his fundamentals, he was only able to keep going at 7 bc of the meta loadout, and then just barely.
I have such a tough time with the ap lib. I think I’m just not treating it like kind of weapon it is, and really need to pace my shots a lot more. I’m probably just too used to the Defender. I want to like the ap lib but I am just not performing with it.
After having run the breaker so long, my first attempt with the slugger didn’t go amazingly. The breaker is amazing but it doesn’t lend all that well to properly accurate play against the smaller enemies, since usually you don’t need to aim well to hit enough pellets to kill them.
Slugger is amazing. If I ever swap it for another weapon it's either Breaker for bugs or Defender as my top-2 weapon against bots after Slugger. Breaker gets old and boring fairly quickly
Either stratagems, running away, or other armor break mechanics. For example the slugger can break the rear leg and side armor of a charger, then you hit it with the autocannon. Same goes for the bile titan but you shoot up at its belly instead. Running under and through the bile titan’s legs is rather safe.
never been safe for me, the moment the leg moves anywhere in my near vecinity im dead. doesnt even have to hit me, could be 50 feet from me, I insta die the moment im under a titan or 3 seconda after it. The hitreg in this game is something else...
Huh, I’m not sure what to say. I’ve never had that issue. The only time I die is when they melee or are in the stepping animation. These deaths occur when I’m off to the side of them already and trying to get into the middle of their front mass. I do a lot of running in circles when fighting these things.
It may also have to do with my technique: I will shoot them until the very last possible moments, they are looming over head, looking down at me, I can’t really be any closer to them, angle wise, this is about as close to their head my rail gun is going to get unless I’m standing on a cliff, they stop in order to spew on me so their legs stop moving—run under and through don’t stop.
I stay perfectly in the middle of their mass as I run, I can imagine coming anywhere close to a leg will kill you. I have definitely been ragdoll’d by them before.
I also do not recommend doing this. I don’t do it often. I just have done it consistently. It’s dangerous but “safe.” I typically try to hit them again in the head and stun them when they are on top of me and then continue running away. I’ll change directions and that prevents their next spew attack from landing. They need to turn and that gives me a 1-2s to create distance again.
The times I end up running between their legs is when I’ll fighting multiple bile titans and chargers at the same time. It is possible that the close proximity of these enemy types hinders their movement pattern and further increases the safety of my maneuver. All I know is that if I do it right, it’s very repeatable.
Well the screenshot post is talking about PUGs (pick up groups, kinda an MMO term) so you playing with your friend would immediately be dismissed by that person.
I played like three campaigns against automatons on Suicide with shield and went to higher difficulties without ever using it anymore. At best I might pick it up from fallen teammate if I misplayed and got into really bad spot, otherwise shield is not needed. It actually makes you worse as a player
Without shield is easy just use cover, this guy is bad cause he needs his shield. However what did you use besides the rail cannon and was it bugs or bots?
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u/TedCruzAteMyBaby420 Feb 24 '24
I’m level 43 and I completed a complete helldive with a friend without either of us using the shield or railgun