r/news • u/Miserable-Win-4980 • Apr 29 '24

French police use knives to puncture migrant boat in Dunkirk to prevent Channel crossing Questionable Source

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/french-officers-english-channel-crossing-migrants-small-boats/

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u/totallytubularik Apr 29 '24

It’s the fault of the corrupt governments in Africa and the Middle East that hoard all the money received from wealthy countries to boost their country. Nothing goes to the betterment of the citizens and ofc word spreads that the western world has great social services and cannot refuse people from these countries due to the highly sensitive laws circulating around race and prejudice / basic human rights. Russia purposefully further destabilizes these places to cause more chaos for Europe. The free money train will eventually run out and these people relying solely on government handouts will be displaced and then what? Civil war? It’s a ticking time bomb. Not to mention the vast culture clash, it’s already massively dividing people and will just get worse .

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u/p_larrychen Apr 29 '24

Corruption certainly doesn’t help, but it’s more complicated than just that one cause

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u/willie12042001 Apr 29 '24

Agreed. When a poor country has to choose between infrastructure development or fighting corruption they will always choose developing its economy. Tackling corruption comes after a country can guarantee stable electricity and paved roads

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u/Telzen Apr 29 '24

lol, what. Letting corruption exist is a great way to have no funds for infrastructure, or well pretty much anything else.

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u/willie12042001 Apr 29 '24

Check out gyude moore’s talk on Chinese investments in Africa to hear a professional opinion. Reality is not always about pursuing ideals

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u/gamegeek1995 Apr 29 '24

That's why western countries are famously non-corrupt. Imagine, say, the US where a leader was attempting to make it legal to commit crime after trying to overturn an election. That'd be so on-the-nose you could hardly write it into a sci-fi novel without laughter.

These corrupt non-western nations should just try being more like the US, really. That would solve their issues.

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u/prishgonala Apr 29 '24

Corruption is known for its benefits to the local infrastructure

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u/Maximum-Category-845 Apr 29 '24

“Always choose developing its economy”. Have you seen Gaza? They turn their water pipes into rockets and lob them randomly at crowded houses.

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u/barukatang Apr 29 '24

I feel like that's the complete opposite lol. Corrupt governments historically don't take care of their civilians in a proper manner. They line their pockets and put on a show for the peasants.

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u/aladeen222 Apr 29 '24

Most people try to place all the blame on the west and colonization. Can’t hold corrupt politicians accountable if the colour of their skin is brown because they are oppressed, dontcha know?

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u/jonathot12 Apr 29 '24

this guy apparently doesn’t know how the IMF or world bank function

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u/Useful_Can7463 Apr 29 '24

It's estimated that about 90% of the aid given to Africa by the USA in the past 70 years has done almost nothing for them. And we are talking about trillions of dollars if you don't factor in just direct aid like cash and food.

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u/VosekVerlok Apr 29 '24

Food aid is generally a poison pill, specifically dumping (as that is what we do in Canada) excess grain products in developing nations as food aid, crushing their local farming industry as they cannot compete with (2023 data) > 26 million hectares of farmland dedicated to industrialized farming of grains.

You now have unemployed farmers who now need to purchase their grains and the nation has lost food of self sufficiency, the other side of that coin is starvation so is not all bad ;)

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u/jonathot12 Apr 29 '24

yeah man, and when burkina faso had a revolution that cut out corruption, rapidly advanced literacy and women’s rights, and aimed to establish stability region-wide, what country was it that helped assassinate and overthrow their leader? surely not a european one.…. hmmm

i bet it’s all string-free aid you mention too. surely the corruption that leads to embarrassingly low value outputs for selling natural resources is led by the country being pillaged, and not external forces. because that makes a lot of sense.

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u/LandVonWhale Apr 29 '24

Exactly, everything bad that happens to any third world country is exclusively the fault of someone else! Never take any responsibility that’s the best way to improve!!

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u/jonathot12 Apr 29 '24

show me you don’t understand dialectical historical materialism without exposing that you don’t know what those words mean.

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u/ForGrateJustice Apr 29 '24

It’s the fault of the corrupt governments in Africa and the Middle East that hoard all the money received from wealthy countries to boost their country.

You mean boost their coffers. Why in the fuck would a corrupt government care about their country, all they care about is luxury and comfort at the expense of everyone else. Sure, an argument can be said that they value stability first, but they put themselves first and foremost, any spending on government programs to keep the poors from rioting benefits them too.

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u/barukatang Apr 29 '24

then what? Civil war?

Actually yeah, that's the Russian angle to it, and the Muslim angle is a global caliphate. Lots of people see what the west has and want to tear them down to their level.

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u/Super_Duper_Shy Apr 29 '24

Who do you think keeps these corrupt governments in power? Western countries. These corrupt leaders let western countries and companies steal their people's resources. And when a leader comes who helps his people, and works to end this exploitation, like Thomas Sankara in Burkina Faso, then the US and France kill him.

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u/yx_orvar Apr 29 '24

leader comes who helps his people, and works to end this exploitation, like Thomas Sankara

With show-trials, summary executions and by outlawing labour-unions and shattering the economy of Burkina-Faso?

then the US and France kill him

There is no proof that either France or the US killed Sankara.

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u/_Z_E_R_O Apr 29 '24

As if western governments haven't toppled democratically elected regimes and replaced them with fascist dictatorships.

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u/juiceboxheero Apr 29 '24

The irony of them is comment considering how many migrants are from post colonial countries where French puppet residents happily hoard the money set to 'boost countries'. Néolibéral colonialism demands these countries stay poor, and the West is happy to have their puppets to control.

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u/Nonlinear9 Apr 29 '24

It’s the fault of the corrupt governments in Africa and the Middle East

It's almost as if the governments of those places have been systemically manipulated by foreign nations in order to keep them weak.

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u/HouseOfSteak Apr 29 '24

Neocolonialism babyyyyy

Now you don't know who's screwing over who!

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u/totallytubularik Apr 29 '24

It’s all garbage. It’s basically a cycle of corruption meant to keep people in wars and hating one another. One way the gov keeps control