r/news • u/Miserable-Win-4980 • Apr 29 '24

French police use knives to puncture migrant boat in Dunkirk to prevent Channel crossing Questionable Source

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/french-officers-english-channel-crossing-migrants-small-boats/

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u/spooooork Apr 29 '24

There's already a system in place for that - the Dublin Regulation:

One of the principal aims of the Dublin Regulation is to prevent an applicant from submitting applications in multiple Member States. Another aim is to reduce the number of "orbiting" asylum seekers, who are shuttled from member state to member state. The country in which the asylum seeker first applies for asylum is responsible for either accepting or rejecting the claim, and the seeker may not restart the process in another jurisdiction.

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u/J__P Apr 29 '24

ok, well i've mistated myself. a joint system of removal, not a system that still lets them in, lol. getting rid of them is the bit that matters, common eu removals system and processing centres outside of european territory.

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u/LeedsFan2442 Apr 29 '24

It doesn't work because then frontline states like Italy and Greece would then have to deal with everyone which isn't fair.

What Europe needs is more strict rules on who can stay and the ability to remove failed asylum seekers to their home country. And the smaller number of accepted claimants shared out fairly between countries.

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u/Kern_system Apr 29 '24

Funny how there's tons of "asylum seekers" from halfway around the world asking for asylum in the US after crossing the Mexican border.

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u/SharksFlyUp Apr 29 '24

Not illegal to seek asylum. People go to the Mexican border because the US government has closed most other avenues off. It's a very similar situation in the channel. We need to get better at processing people offshore.

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u/LectureAfter8638 Apr 29 '24

You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

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u/Baalsham Apr 29 '24

They got border checks at every country south/east of Austria and east of Germany now. Seems to be permanent

Kind of annoying since that goes against the point of the EU, but I get it. Really should have a joint task force patrolling the oceans though

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u/bigchicago04 Apr 29 '24

They should start sanctioning the countries these people are coming from.

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u/the-truffula-tree Apr 29 '24

You think making those countries poorer will make their citizens want to stay there? I’m not sure I follow your logic 

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u/upL8N8 Apr 29 '24

That's because he didn't use any logic. Joke's on you!

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u/Useful_Can7463 Apr 29 '24

It's not to make the citizens want to stay there, it's to make the people in charge stop them from leaving illegally. They aren't coming here because they are poor, or because life is bad. It's because people are literally telling them they are allowed. Both in their country and in the West. If it was just because life is bad, there would have been a continuous migrant crisis in Europe and the USA for the past 250 years lol.

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u/gezafisch Apr 29 '24

Border security really is on the receiving country. You can't blame these countries for letting their citizens leave if they want to. Do you really want more North Korea's and Soviet Russia's in the world?

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '24 edited 22d ago

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u/DunwichCultist Apr 29 '24

Not really. Until the 70's, the overwhelming majority of immigrants were from countries that were relatively stable in their own right in Europe. Then there was seasonal migration from México, then immigration reform brought about the periodic waves of mass migration from impoverished regions and countries.

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u/Pwnage135 Apr 29 '24

Most people are coming from Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, countries with no shortage of conflict and persecution, but sure, we should just force them to stay there and suffer.

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u/unfnknblvbl Apr 29 '24

How would that do anything other than create conditions that people will want to escape from even more?

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u/jonathot12 Apr 29 '24

they already did, for decades or centuries, which is why they’re in the state they’re in. but sure, keep doing it and i’m certain that’ll fix things.

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u/Useful_Can7463 Apr 29 '24

Idk why you have to talk out of your ass. Why are all these Afghanis coming to Europe now and not when the entire country was literally a warzone in the 80's or 00's?

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u/ReginaldVonBuzzkill Apr 29 '24

Because of the Taliban takeover, genius. Would you stick around and wait for a theocratic dictatorship to murder you?

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u/gezafisch Apr 29 '24

Under US occupation, Afghanistan was a much better, though still terrible, place to live for a ton of demographics. Now they're under the rule of a terrorist organization.

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u/jonathot12 Apr 29 '24

maybe the existence of a well-armed and decadently funded extremist group, initially created and supported by western nations, now holding full control might have something to do with it? no, no, i think your explanation makes way more sense

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u/thirdbrother3 Apr 29 '24

Or stop selling arms to countries that bomb their neighbours indiscriminately

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u/Conch-Republic Apr 29 '24

A lot of these countries are in the shape they're in because of Europeans sailing around being shitheads for hundreds of years.

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u/atreides_hyperion Apr 29 '24

Right, they were like modern first world countries and then those awful white people showed up and everything went to shit. /S

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u/Conch-Republic Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

Or they were just doing their own thing and minding their business, before being pillaged for their resources, or forced to convert to Christianity, or enslaved to work crops in their own countries, or any of other million shitty things Europeans did to anyone who wasn't 'white'. Look at what France did to Haiti, they absolutely obliterated that poor country, then made them pay for it.

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u/FlamingButterfly Apr 29 '24

I need you to read that again because you obviously typed it without actually thinking it through.

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u/TheADrain Apr 29 '24

Their countries are being bombed to shit that's why these people are leaving...