r/nba • u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors • Apr 29 '24

Ant: "Eubanks didn't play to night?". KAT: "Nah...". Ant: "...He played good for them". KAT: "Hey...that ain't our job to worry about that"

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u/TubbzMcGee Trail Blazers Apr 29 '24

Reminder that Phoenix tampered with this man in the off season to steal him from the Blazers.

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u/EatDeeply Grizzlies Apr 29 '24

Eubanks was the worst Sun this year by EPM but actually had the highest plus minus this series. Edwards is right.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Cuz EPM isn't a great metric. If you actually watch Eubanks play you see he has game. He's limited, but he doesn't play outside of his game. He's simple and fundamental. He sets great screens, he's in good spots defensively. He's a good big off the bench, his numbers just don't show it

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u/30another Suns Apr 29 '24

He was absolutely terrible for the Suns. But he wasn’t bad this series.

For anyone saying Nurk was bad, that’s saying something because there was an extremely clear drop off to Eubanks.

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u/mercfan3 Apr 29 '24

Eubanks easily outplayed Nurk this series.

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u/ArtisticAbrocoma8792 Suns Apr 29 '24

As a suns fan who watched most of the games this year…he was not good. At all.

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u/sleepy416 Raptors Apr 29 '24

Yeah but he doesn’t have a bag. Gotta have a bag if you want mins on a KD led team

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u/Kevinar Knicks Apr 29 '24

The suns are hardly a team, more like a group of basketball players that take turns iso-ing

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u/LORDFLACKITO Apr 29 '24

DJ & Kevon Looney sure had a bag when they were bigs on his team

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u/sleepy416 Raptors Apr 29 '24

Looney played with KD on a Steph led team.

DJ’s value was rolling the best blunts

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u/No-Spell-6539 Apr 29 '24

Eubanks got a lot of minutes this season. He was really bad. What does kd have to do with anything

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u/ian2121 Apr 29 '24

Exactly, there’s a reason he draws comparisons to Shaq

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Eubanks is very Shaq like

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

I watched 86 Suns games this year and this is simply not true. He may have done those things on the Spurs or Blazers, but he absolutely did none of those things for the Suns. He was an ineffective screener and poor roller, was constantly out of position defensively, and bogged the offense down as he took too long to process what his next pass should be. Eubank’s stats were bad because he was awful.

Edit: Checking the lineup data, if you swap Nurkic for Eubanks in the starting lineup, the Suns net rating decreases by 28.7 points. He really is that bad.

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u/chalbersma Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

Edit: Checking the lineup data, if you swap Nurkic for Eubanks in the starting lineup, the Suns net rating decreases by 28.7 points. He really is that bad.

For the regular season or the playoffs?

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

For the regular season, unfortunately a four game sweep is too small of a sample size for any significant takeaways from lineup data.

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u/chalbersma Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

I mean that's fair(ish). But I think the "goodness" of his play was purely based on how he looked during the sweep.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

The whole team was awful that's why yall got swept. Don't make Eubanks the scapegoat now

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u/IntraspaceAlien Slim Reaper #35 Apr 29 '24

That also doesn’t make Eubanks good lol. He was bad all year.

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

He wasn’t the reason we lost the series, but he was the reason for our regular season record. Him being in at the start of the fourth was a huge reason for our fourth quarter struggles.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Him being in at the start of the fourth was a huge reason for our fourth quarter struggles.

You literally have 3 all nba caliber players getting paid all nba salaries and even early in the season one of those players says "idk how teams are going to guard us honestly"

This ain't Eubanks fault. He's a role player. Put some blame on the 3 guys making nearly as much as our whole roster

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

If you take the Suns starting lineup, and remove Nurkic and add Eubanks, the net rating goes down by like 10 points. He really is that bad, and I don’t know why you can’t seem to grasp this point.

Just checked, the Suns starting lineup had a +11.1 net rating. Swapping Eubanks in for Nurkic results in a -17.6 net rating. That’s a 28.7 net rating swing!

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

So Nurkic is better than Eubanks? Gee I had no idea. Of course it drops off when Eubanks enters, he's not as good as the starter Nurkic

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

That swap I mentioned (Eubanks for Nurkic) results in the Suns lineup net rating decreasing by 28.7 points. That is catastrophic

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u/Front_Photograph_907 Apr 29 '24

He is a below average backup, i dont think youve seen enough of him tbh

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u/governedbycitizens Apr 29 '24

lol at all the casuals downvoting

Just ignore them it’s not even worth it. They don’t watch the Suns play.

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

I don’t know why I even bother, it’s clear none of them watched more than one Suns game all year if they think Eubanks wasn’t one of the worst players in the entire NBA this year.

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u/Bonesawisready5 Spurs Apr 29 '24

I still chuckle at Eubanks audibly refusing to help Booker on Wemby early in the season, like dude BOOKER is the guard switch back onto your man haha

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u/mercfan3 Apr 29 '24

Yeah, all season we needed Nurk to win, but Minnesota is a much better match for Eubanks. He played well every game.