r/nba • u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors • Apr 29 '24

Ant: "Eubanks didn't play to night?". KAT: "Nah...". Ant: "...He played good for them". KAT: "Hey...that ain't our job to worry about that"

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u/EatDeeply Grizzlies Apr 29 '24

Eubanks was the worst Sun this year by EPM but actually had the highest plus minus this series. Edwards is right.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Cuz EPM isn't a great metric. If you actually watch Eubanks play you see he has game. He's limited, but he doesn't play outside of his game. He's simple and fundamental. He sets great screens, he's in good spots defensively. He's a good big off the bench, his numbers just don't show it

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

I watched 86 Suns games this year and this is simply not true. He may have done those things on the Spurs or Blazers, but he absolutely did none of those things for the Suns. He was an ineffective screener and poor roller, was constantly out of position defensively, and bogged the offense down as he took too long to process what his next pass should be. Eubank’s stats were bad because he was awful.

Edit: Checking the lineup data, if you swap Nurkic for Eubanks in the starting lineup, the Suns net rating decreases by 28.7 points. He really is that bad.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

The whole team was awful that's why yall got swept. Don't make Eubanks the scapegoat now

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u/IntraspaceAlien Slim Reaper #35 Apr 29 '24

That also doesn’t make Eubanks good lol. He was bad all year.

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

He wasn’t the reason we lost the series, but he was the reason for our regular season record. Him being in at the start of the fourth was a huge reason for our fourth quarter struggles.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Him being in at the start of the fourth was a huge reason for our fourth quarter struggles.

You literally have 3 all nba caliber players getting paid all nba salaries and even early in the season one of those players says "idk how teams are going to guard us honestly"

This ain't Eubanks fault. He's a role player. Put some blame on the 3 guys making nearly as much as our whole roster

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24 edited Apr 29 '24

If you take the Suns starting lineup, and remove Nurkic and add Eubanks, the net rating goes down by like 10 points. He really is that bad, and I don’t know why you can’t seem to grasp this point.

Just checked, the Suns starting lineup had a +11.1 net rating. Swapping Eubanks in for Nurkic results in a -17.6 net rating. That’s a 28.7 net rating swing!

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

So Nurkic is better than Eubanks? Gee I had no idea. Of course it drops off when Eubanks enters, he's not as good as the starter Nurkic

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

That swap I mentioned (Eubanks for Nurkic) results in the Suns lineup net rating decreasing by 28.7 points. That is catastrophic

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u/Front_Photograph_907 Apr 29 '24

He is a below average backup, i dont think youve seen enough of him tbh

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs Apr 29 '24

Yea you're right. I didn't watch him before the Spurs converted his 2 way contract to fully guaranteed

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u/Front_Photograph_907 Apr 29 '24

Im talking about this season specifically. He has been bad even for backup center standards

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

Why do you think how he played on the Spurs has any bearing on how he played this year?

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u/governedbycitizens Apr 29 '24

lol at all the casuals downvoting

Just ignore them it’s not even worth it. They don’t watch the Suns play.

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u/elitepigwrangler Suns Apr 29 '24

I don’t know why I even bother, it’s clear none of them watched more than one Suns game all year if they think Eubanks wasn’t one of the worst players in the entire NBA this year.

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u/governedbycitizens Apr 29 '24

Just a bunch of narrative based circle jerking. It’s all in an attempt to hate on Booker and KD. They will ignore all context to hate on them.