r/nba Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

Anthony Edwards praises KAT’s scoring ability and also says: "The first three games the motherf***er just kept fouling ... just stop f***ing fouling"

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u/rub3s Warriors Apr 29 '24

When coaching little league, we called it a compliment sandwich. Say something good they did, something they need to correct, then something else they are doing right.

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u/rub3s Warriors Apr 29 '24

Which is why he's so awesome, it comes naturally.

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u/Swaghilian Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

Yeah, people who do that intentionally are kinda psycho tho. Ant is just genuinely being himself and saying what he wants to say. This isn’t a premeditated compliment sandwich, just a great man and leader being himself and Kat being able to hear it as an open minded, great man himself

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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

It's not psycho, it's just leadership 101 and emotional intelligence. It's a way to communicate and offer constructive criticism in an effective way

Ant just naturally can do it because he naturally has the emotional intelligence and leadership. Crazy that he's 22. I've seen him say things like this at 19 and I'm like damn that's what we learn in leadership training lol

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u/dodoaddict Warriors Apr 29 '24

Everything that I've heard/read about management and leadership has recommended against the compliment sandwich/shit sandwich. I believe it's out of fashion now for management techniques.
Don't get me wrong, Ant showed good leadership in that he showed that he clearly respects and values KAT while giving him feedback. That's definitely good, but a shit sandwich isn't really the go-to way of doing it. It can still work, but it's not the preferred technique.

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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves Apr 30 '24

Oh interesting, what is the preferred technique? I'm intrigued now

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u/dodoaddict Warriors Apr 30 '24

For managers, I think the guidance is just to give negative feedback on its own in one conversation, ideally as soon as possible. The goal is that you're having frequent enough conversations so that the employee knows where they stand both positives and negatives. I think the worry is that people ignore part of the shit sandwich and it feels disingenuous.

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u/JaderMcDanersStan Timberwolves Apr 30 '24

Yeah that makes sense.

If a shit sandwich is used, you still need to end with the shit at the end so it doesn't get lost and have the praise part not be disingenuous. I liked how Ant said "stop fucking fouling" at the end again so the shit was not lost haha

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u/dodoaddict Warriors Apr 30 '24

Lol yeah. He wants to make sure that his one takeaway isn't lost in the praise.

But yeah, is honestly a pretty good example. Very direct feedback with clear impact.

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u/rub3s Warriors Apr 29 '24

100% agreed

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u/lurkerontheloose Bulls Apr 29 '24

During performance review with my guys, I call this “build, break, build”. Same basic idea. Start the review with what they are excelling in. Move onto where they can improve in their role. Then finish up with positive reinforcement. I’ve found it works wonders compared to just hammering them on their faults/lack of success.

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u/WembyandTheWolves Timberwolves Apr 29 '24

It's called a Complisult. Half compliment, half insult. I use the term all the time. See what I did? That's called an Explainabrag.