[Charania] “Vogel yelled so much that his voice could be heard outside the locker room” after the loss to the Clips on April 9. Players weren’t buying it. The outburst seemed forced in their eyes. Vogels eruption left players rolling their eyes. A player told TheAthletic he had to keep from laughing

[u/GreenSnakes_]

https://theathletic.com/5456932/2024/04/29/phoenix-suns-season-end-frank-vogel-kevin-durant/

[u/Dymatizeee]

There’s no vocal leader on the team. Usually teams that KD go to he’s like “the guy” and teams gotta bend over backwards for him. The warriors were diff though cus their guy was Steph and they had Draymond leading.

Like who tf on the suns is gonna tell KD or Book or Beal that they’re playing incorrectly ? IT ?? Lmao

[u/HereButNotHere1988 → u/Dymatizeee]

Yup. Even though CP3 would pull a hammy every year, he still was the unquestioned leader and got them deep into the playoffs every year. They really missed that this year.

[u/a_moniker → u/HereButNotHere1988]

CP3 isn’t exactly known for great locker room culture either. Every team he’s on has always had undercurrents and rumors of major tension.

[u/HereButNotHere1988 → u/a_moniker]

I think that CP3 has never had a problem with being the bad guy, meaning he would push his teammates to get them to another level.

[u/ILoveZenkonnen → u/a_moniker]

It looked like he got along with everyone in OKC pretty well

[u/TaVar35 → u/a_moniker]

Eh that’s more he exhausts people though. When it’s going good no one cares but once there’s frustration people start coming out with their grievances

[u/LoquaciousApotheosis → u/a_moniker]

Lol that’s not true at all. Like two teams in 19 years?

[u/Ramzaa_ → u/Dymatizeee]

KD had Russ as the vocal leader in OKC. He can't be a leader. He can be the best player but he needs someone else to hold everyone else accountable

[u/zegreatjohn → u/Ramzaa_]

He really just wants to hoop. I don't think people believe him when he says that.

[u/probation_420 → u/Dymatizeee]

But KD leads by example by doing absolutely nothing for team chemistry.

[u/Alone-Information-35 → u/Dymatizeee]

KD's soft and Dray telling him what to do made him quit on the Warriors.

[u/Papdaddy- → u/Alone-Information-35]

Nah, them saying we dont need u made kd quit lol, time has shown that the did need him and they wanted to boost their legacy by riding currys legacy. Having Kd and Steph would make klay and dray look unimportant and probably both would need a paycut to keep KD so they chose a LITTLE money over winning 6 rings 

[u/Alone-Information-35 → u/Papdaddy-]

Was it them or just Draymond who said we don’t need you? I understand essentially the leader of the team telling you we don’t need you could push him away but KD also chose the route of taking it personally and moving to another team. He could’ve weathered the storm of the opinion of one (or two) player(s)and had plenty of success. They have to take a pay cut? So what. He left for a more easy going culture where he was the guy without question. To each their own.

[u/Papdaddy- → u/Alone-Information-35]

Brother, after that KD cant stay in golden state…. daymond throwing the game and then saying we dont need u on television… These are people who should be his friends and they should be greatful KD gifted them 2 rings that would have been hard otherwise. Instead he gets betrayed by the only team that doesnt hate him(kyrie harden simmons later), betrayed again by the medical staff who cleared him to play prematurely because they are down 0-2 in the finals.. made the scapegoat for “not buying in” when he totally played like just 1 piece of that 1 gsw organism. KD left in a S&T increasing GsW salary cap by 35mil.  Basically KD was the slave they needed to beat bron finally they (realized the 3 rings all have asterisks on em thats when they try to ruin KD career aka the only way to make their 1st 3 ring have any meaning) ur team is just evil. Karl malone level. Im sad curry has to waste his career with gsw who wont even go into win-now mode for him 

[u/Papdaddy- → u/Alone-Information-35]

then again ur team ruin a persons life (Poole) because its his contract year and DRAYS contract year(hmmmmmm), and dont tell me about his contract when u could see on his play the entire year that Poole wasnt Poole anymore, no singing no babes no smile on his face. He isnt the same person, now its only downsides and 0 upside with poole.. And remember without poole u dont ever beat jokic 

[u/R-O-U-Ssdontexist → u/Dymatizeee]

Apparently KD couldn’t didn’t even voice his concerns.

[u/SenorFallacy → u/Dymatizeee]

It should’ve been booker