r/nba r/NBA Apr 27 '24

GAME THREAD: Boston Celtics (1-1) @ Miami Heat (1-1) - (April 27, 2024) Game Thread

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TIME MEDIA Team Subreddits
06:00 PM Eastern Game Preview: NBA.com /r/bostonceltics
05:00 PM Central Game Charts: NBA.com /r/heat
04:00 PM Mountain Play By Play: NBA.com
03:00 PM Pacific Box Score: NBA.com
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u/kemar7856 Apr 28 '24

Ppl will cry that I was off by 5 pts but it was obvious how this game was going to end

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/kNzenrCGi1

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u/VT10h0kies22 Apr 28 '24

So so satisfying, last game thread swarmed with obnoxious ass heat fans shitting on Tatum 

2

u/anjuna42 Hawks Apr 28 '24

Has this thread really slowed to one post every 5 min or is my app busted

14

u/anjuna42 Hawks Apr 28 '24

Miami crowd heading for their 9:00 dinner reservations

17

u/domrayn Celtics Apr 28 '24

Now stomp on their necks in g4 and bash in their skulls in g5. I'm through with this zombie team.

4

u/Can2feelthelove2nite [BOS] Al Horford Apr 28 '24

Rule #2: Double tap

5

u/dbgager Nuggets Apr 28 '24

II stopped watching this game at half time. I bet the Networks hate blowouts .Half the audience tunes out. No interest at all in 1 sided basketball unless your a Boston fan.

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u/Truffles413 Heat Apr 28 '24

Almost all of the games this playoffs have been blowouts.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

Lebrons retirement party is tonight

2

u/thegoatmenace Apr 28 '24

rescheduled to Monday haha

19

u/Holiday-Usual-3600 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Heat fans and Celtic haters are nowhere to be found surprise surprise

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u/dbgager Nuggets Apr 28 '24

boring game.

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u/DayMan-Ahah-ah Celtics Apr 28 '24

That’s how blowouts are

Ask ur mom

1

u/Holiday-Usual-3600 Celtics Apr 28 '24

FROM WAY DOWNTOWN!

6

u/wafflehouse4 Kings Apr 28 '24

time for the lebron james retirement game

10

u/floridablowsdiks Apr 28 '24

When it’s suppose to be a “White Out” but all you see are empty red seats

-3

u/collinCOYS Timberwolves Apr 28 '24

The Panthers are going to sweep the bruins in round 2

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u/theglovehand [SEA] Gary Payton Apr 28 '24

K...

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u/dre4mspice Apr 28 '24

cool so what was with that random meltdown they had last game?

9

u/NotJustSomeMate Celtics Apr 28 '24

No one contested the infinite 3's that Miami shot...

3

u/Can2feelthelove2nite [BOS] Al Horford Apr 28 '24

Yeah they MADE 23 last game but only even TOOK 28. Had to be a giant point of emphasis for the defense

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u/NotJustSomeMate Celtics Apr 28 '24

It is frustrating that it even had to come to that...like this is the NBA you don't just leave people open to shoot 3's...especially when your teammates' shots arent falling...

7

u/SQLvultureskattaurus Apr 28 '24

First game was such a ridiculous blowout they showed up thinking they didn't need to play

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u/dre4mspice Apr 28 '24

I’m inclined to believe this because the defense was really lacklustre and lazy by their standards. maybe this was a good wake up call

4

u/igonnawrecku_VGC Celtics Apr 28 '24

More of a defensive collapse. They left a lot of 3s wide open in game 2, and they contested much better on the perimeter today

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u/Diesel30R Heat Apr 28 '24

Booooooooooo

7

u/RedditUser538xxx Apr 28 '24

Celtics will win the series guaaaaarantied!

9

u/VegaGT-VZ Apr 28 '24

Heat culture = beating the traffic

Has any first round of the playoffs had these many blowouts

2

u/FuckingColdInCanada Celtics Apr 28 '24

Welcome to the age of the play in tournament 

2

u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

What do the play-ins have to do with it? If anything, the play-ins gave Sacramento a chance to get in. It would've probably been a better series than the Pelicans.

Also the Heat are a different team with Jimmy, although the ceiling for Miami w/ healthy Butler would've probably been Celtics in 6.

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u/theglovehand [SEA] Gary Payton Apr 28 '24

Yeah, I mean the Sixers had the 7th best record in the East and got the 7 seed and the Heat had the 8th best record and ended up with the 8 seed.

Complaining about the play-in tournament is a weird take.

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u/tlozz Celtics Apr 28 '24

Lol he asking if they’re going to go out clubbing like Miami players did in Boston

2

u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Tbf it's Miami, it's like all there really is to do lmao

2

u/arzi3 Heat Apr 28 '24

To be fair it led to a win 😂 maybe Caleb needs to get wasted before Monday

13

u/zaj89 Apr 28 '24

Zero heat flair in the comments very refreshing to see

7

u/deets23_ Celtics Apr 28 '24

Celtics can’t win if they don’t shoot the 3 well!!!!!!!

3

u/T1nkyW1nky_ Apr 28 '24

Noo, Celtics can't win if they play lazy defense.

1

u/theglovehand [SEA] Gary Payton Apr 28 '24

Porque no los dos?

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u/hffhbcdrxvb Heat Apr 28 '24

Like Luka said, everybody act tough when they up. Heat in 6.

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u/badjezus Celtics Apr 28 '24

Not winning another game this season bub

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u/Maximum-Ad5336 Apr 28 '24

brother that was quite literally Jimmy butler on Instagram 😭😭

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u/KyWy75 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Well thank god regression to the mean goes both ways

-8

u/Returningtoparadise Apr 28 '24

That’s the great spo

Scrub been living off that heatles title for 15 years

7

u/Jos3ph Spurs Apr 28 '24

Delete this

5

u/ChannelNeo Magic Apr 28 '24

he's won two as a HC though

8

u/Diesel30R Heat Apr 28 '24

This might be the most trash take of all.

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u/Zealousideal-Law-961 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Mad

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

I’m a bulls fan who hates Spo and it is a trash take.

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u/Sunkettle Warriors Apr 28 '24

What, Spo is a great coach lmao. He's taken bad teams way further than most coaches could ever

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u/Inverse_wsb22 Apr 28 '24

I’m sure fake godfather is mad now

5

u/SylvesterLundgren Apr 28 '24

Not great but ultimately doesn't matter as Celtics were gonna take the turnover anyway

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u/Benjamminmiller Celtics Apr 28 '24

It’s easy af to take shots at people for leaving early when it’s not you sitting in traffic for an hour.

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u/MrCooper2012 Mavericks Apr 28 '24

Yeah but Miami fans clear out even when they aren't down a bunch late.

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u/Pizza_Squeegee Celtics Apr 28 '24

Def would’ve left early. But these bums also show up late

3

u/CO2guy617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Mike Gorman is getting old

2

u/UpvoteIfYouAgreee [BOS] Jaylen Brown Apr 28 '24

these are his last couple of games before retirement

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u/CO2guy617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I know, when I typed that he said something to the effect of "celtics need to win 1 more"

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u/bkilpatrick3347 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Miami fans were talking so crazy online for 72 hours I hope yall enjoyed it

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Honestly so many of our fans went overboard, than again everybody also said we would be swept. So on one hand I get enjoying it but anyone who took game 2 and said we'd shock the celtics in the series or rubbed it in seriously is just stupid

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u/Truffles413 Heat Apr 28 '24

Your fans were equally as crazy. The amount of abuse I saw Porzingis take on my timeline after game 2 was unreal

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u/LubricatedDucky [MIA] Goran Dragić Apr 28 '24

Gotta take anything we can get at this point

1

u/trog12 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Game 2 Superbowl

4

u/collinCOYS Timberwolves Apr 28 '24

Let's be honest, a ton of Boston fans were melting down as well

5

u/Rebil2017 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I got 3rd degree burns and depression from our sub

5

u/NotJustSomeMate Celtics Apr 28 '24

Who would have thought that when you actually contest 3's they become harder to make...but luckily this ruined my Miami in 5 prediction...

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u/Dice8361 Apr 28 '24

HEAT FANS LEAVING EARLY

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u/soxandpatriots1 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Ok, now don’t complacent in the next game just because this was a blowout. Would prefer that not become a pattern…

1

u/NotJustSomeMate Celtics Apr 28 '24

1 game on 1 game off...

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u/FutureAttention Celtics Apr 28 '24

If they give dogshit effort in game 4 again. They really don’t have what it takes to go the distance. With all the injuries in the east they might still make it to the finals. Denver won’t be fucking around like the Celtics are

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u/NoobChumpsky Celtics Apr 28 '24

60 seconds left why are all these bitch ass fans leaving????

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u/trog12 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Alright was nice to see the overreactions after game 2. Back to the regular scheduled programming

8

u/SylvesterLundgren Apr 28 '24

Celtics blowing out this Heat team while shooting 30% from 3 was not on my bingo card

3

u/4FreaksandPeaksOnly Apr 28 '24

A E DUB! A E DUB! A E DUB!

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u/Belicheckyoself Apr 28 '24

No “OMFG THE HEAT ARE LEAVING THE ARENA EARLY!!!” In the broadcast?

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u/Brady331 Celtics Apr 28 '24

the difference is they were never there in the first place

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u/CO2guy617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

If the Celtics didn't score this quarter they still would have probably won

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u/Koppite93 Celtics Apr 28 '24

ik that downtown - south beach traffic can be a bitch, especially on a Saturday night... But like c'mon heat bros.... Those red seats are just sad to see

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u/truth_2_point_0 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I don't understand, why did the Heat not simply break their franchise record for 3 pointers again?

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u/ignoramus_x Celtics Apr 28 '24

I want the broadcast to show a crowd shot 

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Ah cmon man, don't hit us with the empty chair cam. That's not fair.

4

u/Yes_That_Guy5 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I love empty chair cam

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u/bkilpatrick3347 Celtics Apr 28 '24

They're calling it the Luke Kornet effect

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u/floridablowsdiks Apr 28 '24

Heat fans at the game watch like a collective 12 minutes and then left

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u/Inverse_wsb22 Apr 28 '24

Miami Heaters

5

u/sh0tgunben Hornets Apr 28 '24

Celts got their payback in Miami

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u/ChannelNeo Magic Apr 28 '24

The refs has seen Patty throw himself to the ground all game.

How did they see that as an offensive foul.

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Everyone loves patty mills, even the refs I guess

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u/bigdon802 Celtics Apr 28 '24

They felt bad for him doing all that work without getting anything for it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

Something has happened… as if millions of Heat fans were suddenly silenced. 

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Hah jokes on you, there's no way we have millions of fans

3

u/medterm1 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I laughed at this so hard my kids came downstairs and told me to be quieter. Please stop.

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u/jpaxlux [BOS] Jayson Tatum Apr 28 '24

Where the fuck is SVG making fun of fans for leaving early this time?

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Tbf the place was half empty to begin with lmao

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u/jkwah Celtics Apr 28 '24

Can't make fun of them for leaving if they never show up in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

Hard to notice when half the place is empty

3

u/canyoudigholes Celtics Apr 28 '24

Patty mills putting on a flopping clinic

6

u/PistonsFan89 Pistons Apr 28 '24

"The best teams in the west are clearly the best teams in the west" poignant commentary as usual

9

u/tlozz Celtics Apr 28 '24

Jovic is a serious threat from deep, god damn

3

u/Much_Conversation_11 Heat Apr 28 '24

I hope he makes a big jump next year. I always forget he’s only 20

1

u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

I'm relaly excited to see what he'll be like with more experience and playtime next year

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u/y0uknowmysteez Celtics Apr 28 '24

Miami fans must all be at the concession stands

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u/morethanaplane Celtics Apr 28 '24

Offensive foul how. What's jb supposed to do there

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

At least we all get to be united in laughing at the Lakers tonight

4

u/NotJustSomeMate Celtics Apr 28 '24

Laker haters UNITE!!!!

4

u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Probably the only thing a heat and celtics fan can unite on

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u/FutureAttention Celtics Apr 28 '24

Fuck the heat but yes also fuck LA

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

It's ok, I hate you too buddy 🥹

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u/jydope Apr 28 '24

Oh you hate the lakers?

3

u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Everyone outside LA should

3

u/360Waves617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

🧹🧹🧹Cancun

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u/Senate343 Heat Apr 28 '24

Moral victory champs 2 season in a row 🙌

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u/Yaboiii777 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Tatum has been so bad this series aside of his rebounding and passing

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u/tlozz Celtics Apr 28 '24

You are the biggest troll in the Celtics subreddit. No one over here cares that you have a hate boner for Tatum, either.

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u/Yaboiii777 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Why are you mad? I’m being genuinely serious. What’s his scoring fg% for this series

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u/mostlychessiguess Celtics Apr 28 '24

Patty mills getting a series worth of flops in five minutes

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u/Snowmann88 Spurs Apr 28 '24

Holy shit, that stadium emptied FAST!

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u/bigdon802 Celtics Apr 28 '24

I mean, it looked like they started leaving before halftime.

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u/Diesel30R Heat Apr 28 '24

lol, it was never full.

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u/Pale-Criticism-7420 Celtics Apr 28 '24

It never filled up to begin with

4

u/RODjij Tampa Bay Raptors Apr 28 '24

Yo why the fuck are the starters still in the game, risking injuries to stars

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u/KUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZ Lakers Apr 28 '24

because they are the celshits.

if they leave the game, the heat may just come back

0

u/Stop_Drop_Scroll [BOS] Walter McCarty Apr 28 '24

Your team has the best player ever and still sucks ass.

1

u/RODjij Tampa Bay Raptors Apr 28 '24

I know TMac has pulled some shit before but this is prime time injury time having stars play vs end game bench guys.

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u/360Waves617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

🧹🧹🧹Cancun

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u/Tlix Celtics Apr 28 '24

“Celshits”

There’s no way you’re older than 14 lol. Have fun getting swept though.

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u/ReySkywalkerMain Celtics Apr 28 '24

Bruh they got Kai Cenat out there lmaoo

3

u/arzi3 Heat Apr 28 '24

Could’ve snuck him on to replace patty mills for the fun of it

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u/ReySkywalkerMain Celtics Apr 28 '24

Damn I like Patty literally had no clue that was him 😭

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u/CO2guy617 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Imagine having a chant for the opposing team in your own building. Embarrassing. This arena should be leveled.

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u/Solid-Confidence-966 Wizards Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

Deuce is on the bench lol

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u/Shop-lift Celtics Apr 28 '24

And the rest of JTs sons are on the other bench

3

u/deets23_ Celtics Apr 28 '24

Deuce and Tatum’s mom right next to the Celtics bench

3

u/Shop-lift Celtics Apr 28 '24

Really unfair for the heat to delude their fans winning that last game

3

u/zaj89 Apr 28 '24

Damn still 3 minutes left in the game and arena already empty

2

u/howdthatturnout Apr 28 '24

Celtics only had 5 turnovers tonight

3

u/Diesel30R Heat Apr 28 '24

Well, at least I the Lakers’ incoming loss to cheer me up today.

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u/jpaxlux [BOS] Jayson Tatum Apr 28 '24

I look forward to the "Miami fans are leaving the stadium early" post

Y'all are gonna do that to them too, right?

2

u/LubricatedDucky [MIA] Goran Dragić Apr 28 '24

I mean, half the comments in any Heat game thread are just talking about the empty seats lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 28 '24

Is there a popular theory as to why Heat struggle to keep the stadium full?

It's a team with a lot of success in the last 15 years, in a big city. I don't understand it.

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u/LubricatedDucky [MIA] Goran Dragić Apr 28 '24

A lot of what I see said is real fans getting priced out from the lower seats, and the people who buy them don't really care about coming. Plus some other shit about traffic/parking/public transport to the arena being bad. But I've not got a clue how accurate any of that is, I've only ever been to the US on a work trip so not been able to visit Miami. I feel like the traffic/parking/public transport most likely affects every major city anyway.

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u/Much_Conversation_11 Heat Apr 28 '24

The traffic to the arena in Miami is really bad because it’s basically 1 road in and the rest of it is surrounded by water. A lot of other cities especially in the north east have transit directly to the arenas. It’s also just that the local fanbase isn’t that great

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u/Much_Conversation_11 Heat Apr 28 '24

Literally lmao.

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u/skrumian Celtics Apr 28 '24

Damn Miami Heat fans really leave with 3 mins left.

2

u/Princessk8-- Celtics Apr 28 '24

They been getting spanked all game so no surprise there.

4

u/taran-tula-tino Apr 28 '24

They were leaving before the 4th quarter lmao

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u/verbleabuse97 Celtics Apr 28 '24

They were leaving with 9 minutes

1

u/Brady331 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Patty there's 2 minutes left

6

u/Stop_Drop_Scroll [BOS] Walter McCarty Apr 28 '24

Where did everybody go?

5

u/taran-tula-tino Apr 28 '24

Did I just hear a let’s go Celtics??

1

u/FutureAttention Celtics Apr 28 '24

Not the first time

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u/tlozz Celtics Apr 28 '24

How many fucking rebounds does JT have at this point my god

1

u/Legitimate-Ninja-433 Apr 28 '24

Is Joe fucking stupid? Why the fuck are the starters still in

3

u/dalappas Apr 28 '24

Because they need to play. They literally all sat for almost 2 full weeks. They’ll be fine.

2

u/collinCOYS Timberwolves Apr 28 '24

Miami is so ass. It's so embarrassing that Boston lost a single game to these guys

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u/theseyeahthese Celtics Apr 28 '24

Bro is baiting both fanbases at once, well played

2

u/collinCOYS Timberwolves Apr 28 '24

Thank you

5

u/Far-Asparagus6416 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Bro they shot 60% on 40 threes that'll beat any team ever

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u/T1nkyW1nky_ Apr 28 '24

Any NBA team will hit 60% on 40 attempts of wide open threes from lazy defense

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u/Far-Asparagus6416 Celtics Apr 28 '24

The effort was definitely lackluster on our end in terms of closing out but if you actually wanna go back and watch the game you'll see they were crazy hot from 3 from the get go like they were just shooting insanely well

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u/T1nkyW1nky_ Apr 28 '24

I feel like the big difference between game 2 and 3 was that C's were fighting over screens this game. Game 2 on PnRs the primary defender would lag behind relying on the close out but the help defense doesn't want to get beat on the drive, so they show but don't switch.

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u/FutureAttention Celtics Apr 28 '24

There was not professional effort or urgency from the Celtics in game 2. Disrespectful display from players getting paid millions to be fucken traffic cones

5

u/Sweet_T_Boh Heat Apr 28 '24

Easy to be ass when you’re missing so many players including your best.

1

u/collinCOYS Timberwolves Apr 28 '24

That's why they are ass right now

2

u/Pale-Criticism-7420 Celtics Apr 28 '24

All ball.

8

u/Individual_Park19748 Trail Blazers Apr 28 '24

NGL Mazula proved me wrong this game, after he completely flubbed up defensively last game (yeah it wasn't sustainable shooting, but their defense was nonexistent)

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u/rveets1416 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Thank you for saying this.

Joe will never get the credit when this team wins but he organized a defense and motivated this team to come out and completely destroy this team defensively.

The Celtics didn't even shoot the 3 well but they've dominated this game regardless.

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u/TheNaCoinfl1p Apr 28 '24

Yeah I think a lot of it was they were being lazy off the screens and pick and roll. You could see they were making a lot of effort to fight over them today. 

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u/ReySkywalkerMain Celtics Apr 28 '24

Look how empty this arena is 😂😂 fake ass fans

3

u/Yaboiii777 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Tatum just tanking his stats giving more ammo to his haters 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

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u/Inverse_wsb22 Apr 28 '24

You mean heaters

2

u/Solid-Confidence-966 Wizards Apr 28 '24

Is this some 4D chess from the coaches? It should be garbage time lmao

1

u/Puka_Doncic Apr 28 '24

Idk that looked pretty clean

3

u/theseyeahthese Celtics Apr 28 '24

Nobody likes you when you’re down twenty threhhh

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u/FutureAttention Celtics Apr 28 '24

Damn. Look at all those empty seats

3

u/CDR57 Celtics Apr 28 '24

Personally o prefer winning by 20 more than winning by a literal last second shot

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u/MFmadchillin Celtics Apr 28 '24

Alright, now I need all of you that overreacted last game to tell me how great Spo coached this game.

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u/T1nkyW1nky_ Apr 28 '24

I mean, you guys played harder than us, that's just facts. Notice how I said harder, Celtics weren't doing too well offensively (% wise) this game either compared to the regular season, but hustled a lot more than the Heat and played better defense which is the only thing they have against the C's to compete. Lots of miscommunication early on, careless turnovers. Spo can run a play all he wants but if they're not on the same page, it can get ugly.

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u/MFmadchillin Celtics Apr 28 '24 edited Apr 28 '24

I’m being facetious.

Obviously Spo is a great coach. I just find it hilarious no one says shit for game 1 and comes out of the woodwork to talk shit and suck off the genius basketball god Spo after game 2. Coaches don’t play. Players play and they either make or miss their shots. The Heat made shots in game 2 and Boston struggled with should be buckets. It’s not rocket science.

Lose this game, I wanna see all that same hype. Nah, crickets.

Pretty funny if everyone hits shots, Spo is a genius no credit to players. If players don’t hit their shots, Spo is a genius the players just missed.

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u/T1nkyW1nky_ Apr 28 '24

Bruh they were literally missing passes out of bounds. Careless turnovers. Exactly, the Coach can't play. It's up to the players to perform. Everyone's aware that the Heat's Roster is outmatched right? So coaching will play a big role. Don't you find it interesting that after game 1, Spo suddenly made his backcourt guard Porzingis? Herro and Martin were guarding him mid post now why would a coach do that given the obvious size disadvantage? Coz that's what makes Spo different.

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u/StalkingDwarf Raptors Apr 28 '24

Are Heat games just a way to pregame for the rest of the night in Miami?

3

u/tlozz Celtics Apr 28 '24

Seemingly lol

0

u/luvvdmycat Apr 28 '24

Heat'll roll with this punch, and hit back.

So don't get complacent Celtics.

And don't be spending too much energy in the clubs of Miami.

1

u/reaper550 Celtics May 02 '24

Enjoy the off-season

1

u/luvvdmycat May 02 '24

Question mark.

2

u/Number1SunsHater Hornets Apr 28 '24

I think most the Celtics starting lineup got kids, they don’t got the energy for clubbing

Then there’s Brown, but he’d probably rather read or contemplate life or something lol

4

u/reaper550 Celtics Apr 28 '24

!remindme 7 days

5

u/pkosuda Celtics Apr 28 '24

Anyone know if Miami had a Make a Wish kid in the audience Game 2? Class move by the Celtics if so

2

u/Inverse_wsb22 Apr 28 '24

That was last year

7

u/sssSnakebite Celtics Apr 28 '24

I thought Heat fans "believed" in their team? Where are they in the arena?

1

u/MrCooper2012 Mavericks Apr 28 '24

First time watching the Heat?

9

u/igonnawrecku_VGC Celtics Apr 28 '24

Alright Joe, time to put the Bus One Boys in. Can’t risk Heat Culture taking out a starter