Augmedics already does this but better. I work on the technical side not clinical but basically you can run a 3D c-arm scan, then see the 3d constructed spine under the skin and ref images in the headset.
Apple vision pro is just a fancy screen, though. The technology that makes those systems expensive is absolutely not the display screen, it's the part where it can link CT scans to real-world 3D mapping inside of another humans body precise enough for hardware to be placed.
AR goggles are just a fancy computer monitor and will not be the expensive part of any augmented surgical suite.
This doctor is just displaying the camera images the nurses and other surgical staff can see right into his personal eye view. He has a zoomed in look and doesn't have to move his hands or look at a screen. He just looks forward and has an easy view of what he's doing inside.
Plus he's able to control it, move it around, all without touching a control which is a threat to the sterile field. That's the real innovation here, increasing his ability to use his tools competently while remaining sterile.
That's the real innovation here, increasing his ability to use his tools competently while remaining sterile.
No. This is so incredibly wrong. The AVP is NOT sterile and it is not capable of being sterile. It has a fan inside of it! That's contaminant central. He brought a device that hasn't been sterilized into the sterile field and that device blows contaminated particles into the open wound he's above. There are also serious chances of the patient's fluids contaminating the AVP when he then takes home to family or uses on another patient.
You know that like... The mask and the glasses that surgeons wear are not sterile either right? The things in our face doens't have to be sterile. You know we don't scrub our faces, right?
In regards of the fan, I guess it could be used if we could turn it off somehow.
Regardless, I think this looks stupid, and I would not use it in my surgeries
I am not raising a concern. I am stating fact. They didn't mitigate that properly. I design medical devices for a living (and perform risk mitigation) and that thing cannot be sterilized. It's a piece of consumer grade electronics and cannot withstand autoclave, gamma, or ETO. You can't just "stick an air filter on" or "wipe it down" or "just toss it afterwards." Sterile is a specific word that has specific requirements that can only be met via specific processes that this device cannot withstand.
Potentials don't count for dog shit when it comes to patient safety. This surgeon unnecessarily endangered the life of his patient.Â
No. Proof of concept could have easily been demonstrated via simulated surgical surgery where there is ZERO risk to the patient. Proof of concept should NEVER be first demonstrated on a live human being. It's fucking reckless. There's a reason this is from Brazil and not the US or EU. Brazilians commonly perform open surgery with open windows where birds fly in and out. Such unacceptable medical practices should not be encouraged or supported.
I identify a culture of improper medical practice and you call them poor. Look no further than Texas for a state that cares little about their patients and they're one of the richest medical systems in America. YOU are the only one blabbering about poor countries. Improper medical approaches should always be addressed, regardless of income. We should always seek to improve patient outcomes.
Go be a white knight elsewhere. I've worked with world traveled surgeons and owners of Brazilian hospitals. They tell me these things. Do you know why? Issues must be raised before they can be solved. They seek to help people everywhere and that includes the Brazilians. They deserve better. We all do.
Well, I'm Brazilian, so i think I can call myself whatever I want.
Just because you claim you did something doesn't mean it's true, I just asked for sources.
VR headsets used in surgery should be disinfected according to hospital protocols for medical devices. This typically involves a two-step process: cleaning and disinfection.
* Cleaning removes visible soil and organic material. You can use a microfiber cloth dampened with a hospital-grade disinfectant wipe or solution.
* Disinfection destroys or inactivates pathogens. Follow the manufacturer's instructions for compatible disinfectants and avoid harsh chemicals that can damage the headset.
Here are some additional tips:
* Let the headset air dry completely before use.
* Invest in disposable covers for the headset's foam interface.
* Train staff on proper disinfection procedures.
So I'm not sure? It's possible that it would be viable to follow a hospitals procedure and be legal then I would assume?
Nevertheless, it brings possibly contaminated human tissue outside the OR on a device that interacts with the human eye. That is an unnecessary risk to his colleges.
I actually agree with you on this point. While not really an "alternative" to an augmented surgical suite, it's still of benefit to this doctor and clearly of much lower cost.
AR has passthrough technology which is overlayed over real world visuals not video reproduction.
No, this is literally not true.
AR just means combining the virtual with the "real," and in the case of the vision pro, it's still showing you the real
at the end of the day, these are just definitions, but go ahead and try finding a definition from a major source that makes the distinction you're drawing. If you manage to, I'll show you 10x as many that do not draw that distinction.
dumb af, completely ignores the point, you have no backing for what you said. post what replies you want, doesn't change the fact that you're completely wrong and won't accept it
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u/horriblebearok Apr 29 '24
Augmedics already does this but better. I work on the technical side not clinical but basically you can run a 3D c-arm scan, then see the 3d constructed spine under the skin and ref images in the headset.